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They chanted "Detroit Sucks" at their Cup parade, when we didn't even play them in the playoffs. Yeah, I'd say they're as bad as we thought.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/puck-daddy-chats-red-wings-pavel-datsyuk-nhl-152127707.html Enjoy. Be warned the last few lines may cause slightly leaky eyes.

He's below Nyquist, Tatar, Andersson, Connor and probably Brunnstrom on the depth chart. It IS a stretch to think he'd ever be called up this season to play.

Lol no way. The Blues are primed to lose in the first round. They don't have enough playoff experience on that team IMO.

Because he hasnt played over 74 games in a season for the wings and the last two years missed significant time with injury.

Whom is going to take a trade for a player that has known horrible medical history with his knee? I mean, the dude can barely get up stairs some days... I just don't see us shipping or someone taking that contract off of our hands. Hudler MAY be traded, depends on the potential seen by the front office and if they're content with his stay. I feel like homer would have a giant impact on Lidstroms return. And honestly, I don't care how much people talk s*** about homer, that boy busts his balls each and every night. The best image last night was straight off the face off homer just charging the crease not giving nay f*** was in his way. The boys a demolition man, and called rightfully so. You don't know how much you miss something until its gone, and how much heart and dedication that man puts in night after night... you'll miss something like that.

Same thing with Quincey when he was acquired at the deadline then? I bet there's a lot of angry players in the Detroit locker room.

No, and no. ALL GM's have passed over players who have turned out to be really good in the NHL. Doesn't mean they are incompetent or should be fired. It means their job is really hard and nobody knows the future.

The Wings were missing 8 regular players. The Rangers are completely healthy. I saw a Wings team battle as hard as they could against one of the best teams in the league on the road and against the best goalie in the NHL. I am very proud of this team even though they lost in overtime. This team will be just fine in the playoffs when players start returning (especially Lidstrom). Conklin played a solid game. Good for him. I see the Wings winning their next 3 games (Columbus twice and Carolina). I think they may even beat Nashville after that. I thought they would get bombed last night but they almost pulled out a win. If they play with as much heart as they did last night, I think better days are ahead for us Wings fans.

I agree with your assessment. I really think it will take some of these players that are coming back from injury a little time to get their groove back. At the same time, that won't stop their detractors from crapping on them while they aren't producing. Some of the members of this forum really make me sick sometimes. The negative nancys, the bandwagon fans that say they love the team in one breath and that they are sick of watching the team the next, and so on. These are not fans, and this forum is no longer populated by true fans of this team. There are too many whining entitled dorks that I am, quite frankly, sick of. The only thing that keeps me around these forums are the members who do have that passion left to root for their team through thick and thin. Those members are hard to come by though. Which is why, when the Wings fall on hard times, the bandwagon fans will hopefully jump off and run to another team and ***** on their forums.

I thought the Wings played well considering what they had. Conklin played very well.

Then Piss off and stop watching.

Much better than I expected, too bad for the loss.

Even though it was a loss, it still was a heck of a game. Here's to the Wings carrying that same energy for the next few games and the playoffs!

Good effort tonight EDIT: Great effort! I can't wait to get a few guys back on Saturday

He's also the only NHL-calibre forward to spend 4 years of his prime in the KHL.

Everyone saying it's his line mates needs to get a clue. How about Dat's linemats why aren't they ripping it up with all their feeds huh? I think people don't like to give credit where credit is due. Yes line mates help but in the end you need to finish. Neal can finish.

Why does Datsyuk have to have more points than Crosby in order to be considered to be the best player in the league? Datsyuk gives up points to play defense. Crosby does not. This an old argument. One that used to involve Yzerman and Lemieux and Gretzky. Who's better? A player with 199 points and doesn't play defense? Or a player that gets 155 points and helps prevent the puck from going into his own net? I don't necessarily know if there's a right answer to this, it really comes down to preference. The people that think Datsyuk is better believe that if he played Crosby's kind of game, he would have more points, while if Crosby played Datsyuk's style, he wouldn't do as well as Datsyuk is now. Personally, I think Datsyuk is better because he's more valuable when going for a championship. Defense plays a huge part in the playoffs and scoring machines typically get slowed down in the postseason.

Datsyuk could dangle Crosby in front of Lemieux and manage to keep him away.

I still take Datsyuk one-on-one against anyone in the league, including a 100% healthy Golden Boy. esteef

well said. the Pens can run into a cyborg goalie with massive shoulder pads and no five hole in the first round and get swept even though they may be a "superior team"... Personally, I hope they play the Flyers and get swept in the 1st round. I'd also love to see the Canucks, Coyotes and Sharks depart in the 1st round as well and then i'm pretty much good with who wins the cup.

is he playing again?

Let's keep it to over-analyzing hockey, not each other please.

same coach, same system, and a lot of the same players. how long would it take, really?

Deleted the one with so many people in it, here are a few of when I was running in the race. Just before the end. Another one just before the end. Finish Line