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Saves them zamboni gas. How else do you expect Ilitch to pay for Fielder's contract?

Dude, get a clue - I am so sick of ppl chirping Bertuzzi. Is he going to put up 60-70 points next year? No, probably not. *But he was tied for 1st on the Wings amd tied for 9th in the NHL this year with a +23 - and that was against the oppositions top lines as he played the majority of the season on the top unit with Franzen and Datsyuk.* So yeah - I am actually very happy with a guy putting up 40-45 points a year, is incredibly defensibly reliable, is a shootout wizard (tied for 2nd overall in the league with 4 shootout game winners) and is one of the very, very few physical, gritty guys on an obnoxiously soft roster sticking around for another couple years. Especially when his price tag is only 1.8 million a year. Point your finger at someone besides Bertuzzi. The guy is incredibly valuable anywhere you put him.

Some of Datsyuk's great goals and Jimmy being a ninja. The game against Boston early in the season stands out for me, it had more of a playoff feel than our actual playoff games this year.

Oh No! Cause there are no other players in the league who can score 25-30 goals! That excuse is already stale. esteef

Johan Franzen: Red Wings need to 'have more fun, get some joy back' next season Just wanted to call everyone's attention to this article real quick. Talking exclusively to Franzen about how the season ended, this little gem was the headliner Fixed it to be closer to the truth. Its like he is projecting his own problems onto the team in general. The article had a few decent points but for the most part the same tired "disappointed" crap. Just thought it was interesting that Franzen basically projected his own lack of interest, confidence, and ability to sell out for his club on everyone. Obviously he isn't the only problem, but he is a big chunk of it. "Boring" regular season excuse has apparently been replaced with "needs more fun" regular season and playoff excuse?

I know there's been a lot of chatter here about how Eaves is doing. Since he won't be back the rest of the season some blogs/sites are having readers comment wishing him well and sending them to him. Winging It In Motown

Yotes all over them! 1-0! Aaaooooooooooooo! esteef

I think he will end up on Tampa Bay. I'm not that big of fan of Luongo, bit overrated. I like having Howard, the only goalies I would choose over Howard straight up would be Miller, Lundqvist or Thomas

Getting paid millions to play a game?

Some of Bert's shootout wins stand out to me. Especially during the home win streak; he was so clutch.

Franzen when he gave 100% on that one shift.

Incorrect. He will make his decision before July 1st.

First off, I'm fairly certain he was kidding/using hyperbole, not actually suggesting losing Franzen's production for nothing. Other than that, have you not seen Franzen's play the last few years or heard/read any of the things coming from his own mouth? Its not all LGW hysteria, the guy has a terrible attitude. The point of the thread is Franzen and his s***ty attitude, not Franzen as the only reason the Wings lost. So to avoid that easy out for everyone still pro-Franzen, I'll say this officially: Johan Franzen is not the reason the Detroit Red Wings lost. However, the way some people can defend a guy who is basically Robert Lang 2.0 with tenure is absurd to me. Look passed the fact that the Wings lost and look at the way the guy plays and carries himself publicly. And again, as I said, Babcock was speaking about why the team lost, saying it wasn't just Franzen, which we have now established. Using that one line as a pardon for Franzen's play, effort, and attitude is just plain flawed. Babcock has made several indicting statements about the player himself within that context. And we've also established that Babcock's hands are tied as far as how to deal with the situation, and that especially now, with the season over, it does him and the organization no good to elaborate and just how bad Franzen has been. Why s*** on his trade value? And if they are planning to keep him, what good does it do at this point to humiliate a guy who is such a pouter as it is?

I know you are trying to defend Franzen, but do you honestly believe what you turned his post into? Because if you do, then let me remind you of something. Wings were pretty much ONE goalpost away from a back to back Stanley Cup win in 2009. I'd say they did pretty damn good that playoff....yet, to this day, hardly NOBODY forgives Hossa for not scoring 50 goals in the playoffs...despite having 6 goals amongst 15 points (only 8 behind Franzen that playoff BTW) Man I wish Holland had chosen Hossa over Franzen that off season.....oh well. Now noone will take his God awful contract and in 3-4 years when he his only scoring 15-20 points per season, the only way out will be to buy him out...

So is this where we're all supposed to say what all of our Dads told us at one point in our lives? "WORK IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUN! IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT WORK! YOU NEED TO GROW UP AND REALIZE THAT!"

Here's a good way to look at Franzen's production (his only defensible position left) in comparison to a Wings' fan favorite: Robert Lang had 62 point in 72 games for the Wings. (a better season than any of Franzen's past... ever) Robert Lang was LAZY and he SUCKED. Robert Lang wasn't on the top line, getting all his minutes with a player the caliber of Datsyuk (ahem...) Robert Lang was LAZY and he SUCKED. Robert Lang wasn't granted an 11-year contract. (that's good...) Robert Lang didn't complain to the media every time he spoke to them about things being boring. (what self-respecting player would?) ...Johan Franzen is LAZY and he SUCKS

Sounds like a group who are bored with themselves. Add some new life to the roster. Add some excitement.

Maybe he can have more fun on another team. esteef

How about scoring 5 goals in a game and then vanishing into the ethers for a month or so

Deflection + Excuse! At least when Hoss wasn't scoring he still gave his all and played great defensively. If Mule isn't scoring he is a waste of quality ice time. If he wants to have more fun show him clips of past Wings teams winning the Cup!

yeah sutter is pretty set in carolina

I stopped reading here, because none of us knows what Ken Holland thinks should happen. For that matter, what Ken Holland thinks should happen isn't necessarily what's going to happen.

Hopefully less line threads