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Can I tell you how much I MISSED THESE THREADS?!?!?! Mother effing GO WINGS! I feel like it's Christmas all over again!

That is a fantastic looking GDT..well done. I'm going with 4-2 Wings every game until I get one right and then I can act like a guru.

Living in the shadows of Nick Lidstrom would make any other Dman on a team appear less worthy. Take away Lids and we have Kronwall whom despite the fact that we've been so spoiled with Lids, is a #1 D. Putting up 40-50ish points on the 2nd pairing is no accident. The only reason he wasn't on the first pairing with Lids was to spread the wealth. If anyone here is under the impression that Kronner won't be a legit #1 guy, his play this year will undoubtedly speak for itself. People are sceaming for the likes of Weber, Suter, Pietrangelo etc, but Kronwall is every bit as valuable as all of them. Wait for his name to be in Norris talks and everyone will be on board.

Love the new look, and so freaking excited to drop the puck finally!!

Don't like having Helm and Bert out to start the year. Wanted to have the full bottom 6 ready to go because they were gonna be fun to watch. Get healthy soon bys.

Sammy, Bert and Kindl. 3 names a lot of people didn't want to see much of in the first place lol.

This is all garbage. If we have good players (Smith), we play them. Over ripening money saving arguments are all a facade for our farm system being weak right now. We have a lot of mediocre talent in GR, but there arent any Datsyuks or Zetterbergs in the near future. I dont blame Holland for it, as we never have any good picks. I actually think he does a great job with drafting and finding value in lower picks. I just blame him for flapping his gums about the over ripening stuff. Thats lame. "We got this great guy named Nyquist who's the next slava kozlov, but we're gonna sign Sammy for 3 years so Nyquist can ripen some more.". Stupid. Nyquist is too small right now. Plain and simple. We need him at 190 instead of 165 so he doesnt get killed. Why not just call a spade a spade?

Newsflash to everyone: it's POSSIBLE that ANY team might not make the playoffs. The sheer amount of whining over the fact that the playoffs are no longer a guaranteed thing is sickening. Welcome to the standard state of affairs for fans of any other team in the league. Get used to it. Maybe now you'll appreciate the 20 years of success more. Yep. News: the Wings also don't have horrific goaltenders. Howard would never let in the habitual stinkers that Bryzgalov and Fleury allowed. He has more than an excuse; he has 14 years of success behind him. If every GM who failed to make the playoffs got fired, we'd be seeing a ludicrous turnover in general managers. But it doesn't work that way. Fans of the Wings have simply grown to believe that making the playoffs is something that they deserve. It's sad to see such a spoiled, unappreciative state of mind.

He also said they could be #1 in the conference. But that isn't sensationalist enough, right? He's right. The forced parity of the NHL has made it so that every semi-competent team is going to be a clone of every other semi-competent team give or take a guy here and there. Everyone has a chance. It's going to more than ever come down to who actually gives the most effort and I think he knows that. If you actually think Holland will get fired for missing the playoffs you need to get off of internet forums for awhile and check back into the real world.

Detroit is one good shutdown defender away from being a VERY good team. Holland will fix this early and Detroit will make the playoffs without a problem.

I thought it was a possibility every season. Or did Wings have a guaranteed spot in the past? Oh well, fire Holland already. I think it's time. We have almost played one game this season.

The pessimism is astounding. The shortened season is working against us? Why is it working against us more than everybody else? Because we are older? But you could argue that the short season benefits the older guys and that the younger guys have less time to gain experience. It's all a matter of how you look at it. Detroit has the oldest team in the league but NJ is second and they lost in the finals last year. Try to be objective people. Chicago did not improve, St. Louis did not improve, Nashville got worse, Columbus got worse. 7 teams in the west will not make the playoffs. IMO they are: Columbus Colorado Minny Edmonton Calgary Anaheim Dallas Phoenix That's actually (8). Which 2 of those teams is better than us? I can't think of any Norris trophy candidates on any of those teams. We no longer have the best D-man in the West but neither do any of these 8.

A bit easier? Lidstrom at 40 was better than weber at 26, Chara in his prime, suter, pietrangelo, letang, and so on. The only player in the last 20 years who even compared to him was Vladdy, and unfortunately negligence stole him from us. no one can replace lids, not in his prime, not at 40, not ever.

Well, don't think anyone came up with this, but after watching the game last night and learning the correct pronunciation of his name (rhymes with runner,) I am officailly going with... Damien "The Gunner" Brunner....

He'll be a fan favorite soon enough.

“I'm a Red Wing for the next three years and I'm going to make sure every team we play knows that.'' -- Jordin Tootoo esteef

I really like idea of bringing Dmitry Kulikov to Detroit. He's only 22 years old. I haven't watched enough of him to really say how defensively sound he is. Definitely has some offensive upside. 28 points in 58 games last year. On top of all that, his presence may make Datsyuk feel a little more at home, since Kulikov is Russian.

While you guys boycott the NHL. I'll be watching hockey drinking a cold one. Enjoy!

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I'm curious. For all the people who are insisting with aggressive opinions that Yandle and/or Bouwmeester are elite/suck/average/etc...how many people actually consistently watch either of them? I know just typing "I dunno" isn't as fun but really how much do we know? I think the proof is all over the place. I've lurked around on a lot of Wings forums and if you want a good laugh, go look at some of the know-it-alls insisting smugly that Ian White was garbage and shouldn't be here. I saw people questioning Dan Cleary, with the usual illogical "well he sucked before, he can't ever be good somewhere else" stupidity. I've seen people chew crow on signings or trades so often I just laugh when we wipe our memories and have another go at playing pretend expert like it never happened. And for anyone who might actually watch either of the two consistently, not to sound like a dick but how many would even be able to judge their ability to play or fit in here? We can hardly even make up our mind about our own players. It's one thing to simply state what you think but it's hilarious when people pursue silly shouting matches over guys they don't even watch.

Wings are looking for a defenseman, Sergei Fedorov is thinking of making a comeback as a player. Go with what you know Kenny!

Bogosian would be a nice piece as he is a RH dman with great size, mobility, and youth. I think more realistically we should target a guy like gormley who is probably nhl ready but is on a team with a crowded blueline. I don't think we have the depth to trade for a current top tier dman, but we could try for a potential top tier guy in gormley. maybe even rundblad but people seem to dislike him.