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I'm kind of the opposite. I've wanted Carlson on this team for a looong time. I've always been a big fan of his, and think he's a very underrated defenseman. In saying that, he's coming off a career year, and that monster play has translated into the playoffs. He's going to get Paid this offseason. And while I'd be comfortable paying him what he's worth, I don't know if I'm comfortable in getting into a bidding war and overpaying him, which would be the case. Carlson would make this team (defense) infinitely better, so I'd obviously reach out and throw out an offer. I wouldn't go much above $7M, 5-6 year term, and I think he's going to get $8M+ at max term. Of course, depending on how he / the Caps do for the remainder of the playoffs, I think there's a strong chance he'll re-up in Washington anyway.

It doesn’t make sense. It is easy not to be racist, victim blaming is a poor attempt at deflecting. If people stopped being racist, racism would end. It’s simple, any confusion that follows only follows the primary cause. Obfuscation doesn’t serve moral action, it only hinders that envoy. Contemptuous mention of social justice warriors just adds another layer of transparency to an already indigestible position.

Lurker here usually, but had to join to respond to some of the posts that I think are really off-base in this thread. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/givani-smith-racism-post-season-1.4653588 He received racial slurs from the crowd and death threats and had to have a police escort. Fans verified seeing a player on the other team making "monkey" gestures toward him. And they talk about him experiencing similar incidents throughout the year. You can read this from Gemel Smith (written last year) about him and his brother being frequent targets for racist comments while in the OHL. https://theupsetsports.com/for-gemel-smith-mental-strength-goes-a-long-way-when-dealing-with-racism-in-hockey/ Really disappointing to see the reaction is to doubt the victim before anything else - and with no basis for doing so. You should know that racism is a problem within the hockey community since there's plenty examples we've seen to glimpse that in the resent past. For another incident involving the Greyhounds - John Vanbiesbrouck stepped down as GM after calling Trevor Daley, then his own team's captain, a N----- Other public incidents: - whether it's the banana thrown at Wayne Simmons in London, On. - During the lockout, Czech fans also chanted "monkey" at Wayne Simmonds - Kevin Weekes also had a banana thrown at him. - Sean Avery supposedly yelling a racist epithet at George Laraque - Blackhawks fans banned for life for heckling Devante Smith-Pelly with racial slurs - If you only believe video, you can search and find Subban having the N word (bleeped) thrown at him an being told to go back to Africa by a Bruins fan. Also, there was that twitter-hate storm against him that was much publicized during that series. - Krys Barch suspended for making a racist comment at Subban - Maybe you'll trust Joel Ward's mom when she said he grew up with that after an incident where he was flooded with online hate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puiLRJWn1jo - Such Twitter hate storms and death threats were also aimed at J.T Brown when he kneeled for the national anthem. There's enough of these public incidents to glimpse what most black NHLers surely go through it at some point. I'm mean, there are only about 30 black NHL players in the league and of incidents I listed 7 involve current NHL players - so that's about a quarter of black NHLers involved publicized incidents of racism and I'm sure there's more if you want to search - not to mention which doesn't get picked up on camera or audio or not reported - in juniors especially it is reported as a bigger problem. All examples that should lead one to give Smith's claim credence. And, yes, sure some people might make false claims, but against the Everest sized problem of racism, it's a molehill. And where's the examples of that would lead you to think that likely? Has an OHL or NHL player ever done that? And why would he do that? He was suspended for the game. It's wasn't a lessened punishment.

A Bouchard-Hamilton pairing would be better.

Why do so many Wings fans hate Tampa so much? I dont get it. Well, I guess I kinda do, but I'll always root for any team Yzerman is involved with. I'd love to see him win another Cup, first as a general manager.

Stop supporting racism. Whitewashed Charlie. Pygmy slavery. Glorification of white privilege. Not to mention Dahl's anti-semetism and body-shaming. SMH

I always thought Satan should have signed with the Devils and worn #6 just for kicks. With the numbers on his shoulders and back, it'd be 3 6's on his jersey Yeah, I'm with you. I like Carlson, but probably not at what it's going to cost to get him. If the team was on the upswing instead of still bottoming out, it would probably be different, but at this point he's going to spend his best remaining years on a rebuilding team and by the time they're good again he's likely to be on the downswing.

Big game tonight. You are a spineless traitor. You disgust me.

Haha I guess I could’ve worded that better. But yeah, in no way would I trade what is basically two promising defense prospects for one young defenseman, with the shape our defense is in. I’m starting to like Bouchard the more I hear about him. Would love it if we got him.

Seeing as how they were a team on the rise and we were on the decline, that really doesn't bother me. Bringing our shortcomings into focus is, I think, a good thing. We could be like some franchise that are clueless, keep doing the same dumb things over and over again and fail. Maybe its just me, but I can turn my hatred on and off like a switch. If the Bolts aren't playing us, I'm cheering for Stevie's team. I want him to get his name on the Cup again. However, when they do play us... eff those guys!

Count me in on Hamilton! I’d love to get him. Him + 1st pick this year + Cholowski and our defense is probably looking a TON better even just a year or two down the line. What worries me is cost. Assuming Calgary would want something to help them now. Also, they traded a 1st and two 2nds for him iirc and he needed a new contract. Now he’s on a team friendly deal for what he brings imo, so i imagine he’ll cost more than that (or at least as much). AA or Nyquist could interest them, but I’d be curious how much more we’d have to add.

He'd fit right in in Pittsburgh.

I hear ya. If I'm being real, I don't genuinely hate them. I don't truly hate any team these days, at least not like I once hated the Avs or the Ducks or the Pens. I hate the Bolts in a "They're our tormentor, so I'm contractually obligated to hate them" way. I don't feel it in my bones. Nothing personal, just business. (The business of being a fan.)

Chevel-day-off? A Holland-day-off is more likely.

I should have emphasized "may". fixed

THIS AIN'T THE FANTASY THREAD, NERD!