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(NOTE: If you want to do a GDT, please don't think that I have any pride in the matter. lol. Go for it! Absolutely, positively, 100% go for it. I've only "taken over" GDT duties because I figured no one else cared enough to do it. So, just sayin'. I don't want to turn people off from participating and such. OK COOL PLZ LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE AND SUPPORT ME ON PATREON.) HYPE! LGRW!

Lets get back up on that horse, lads.

As long as we're playing the Devils, this is a good christian thread

Duders. The worst player the Wings end up with will be Raymond or Holtz and that is nice.

I'm thinking a back up, like a discord, a subreddit, an email chain, an alternative site, or something else? Just a place to go when things are down. We should have a vote thread with all suggestions

For a good amount of time there this fanbase in general, not pointing any fingers at you, swung their dicks around like Mike was the next coming of Scotty. Was that totally premature and wrong? Absolutely. Any overratedness he had going to the Leafs probably started with Detroit fans. Then as soon as the roster started aging out, with no elite talent coming back in, Wings fans, like most sports fans do, started turning on the coach. Specifically calling him overrated. And personally, I'm like, yeah... ya dinguses... WE OVERATED HIM lol. So then he spurns the Wings for a rival, and the rest is history. The man goes from best in show to "Babs sucks" in less than 5 years time. I just think that screams butthurtness on our fandoms behallf more than it does any true evaluation of him as a coach. And in reality, I think he's probably somewhere in the middle, not amazing, not suck, just an above average coach who does a few things particularly well. That's why I ask where you rank him. Overrated doesn't necessarily mean bad or good, just lesser than. I would agree he's probably not gold standard Babs, but somewhere around top10 or 33rd percentile, I would say yeah. In regards to his style, I could rant for a while about how I think "the new NHL style" is a trap. But instead of writing a book I'll just agree to disagree there. I think shutdown coaches will always be a commodity with value. At the time, did you not think the switch from Detroit was Toronto was smart for him? I would absolutely agree with his critics that he's always had stacked teams. He's maneuvered his NHL career in that fashion. Breaks into the league with Anaheim, then immediately jumps ship and leverages that success to a position with a powerhouse Detroit team. As soon as that starts going south he leverages his success there for a bidding war that takes him to a quickly up n coming Toronto. The fact that he got fired doesn't mean I don't think he was in a bad spot. Ah I was gonna use this expression, but you beat me to it! I'm absolutely advocating jamming square pegs into round holes in this instance. This is also why I agree with you that Babs didn't fit the style there. If the Leafs were a team full of John Tavares generation players, I would be right with you. Babs is a mistake, bring in a Laviollette or something. But I see a team of mostly sub 25 year old players with more than a few key pieces still being 22/23. There's a lot of growing to do there yet, and I think Babs would have been the ideal coach to mold Matthews, Marner, Kapanen, Nylander from young talented hot shots, into complete mature dominant 2-way players. In fact I thought that was Shanahan's plan all along, and I kinda feel like Shanny caved to Dubas and his players here. Of course I would expect growing pains, but I think that's a recipe for long term growth and success. Even if you fire Babs in 2 to 3 years when the transformation is complete and then go with a new coach. IDK he's done some pretty big stuff in a short time. Signed arguably the biggest UFA of this decade. Tangled with some insanely high dollar hold out RFAs. Moved mountains to get his team cap compliant. Made some pretty big balls trades for guys like Muzzin. Already has one of his draft picks on the team in Rasmus Sandin. Brought in solid KHL contributors like Mikheyev. Dubas has been no slouch so far. I have no problem with analytics. But I don't think it's the end all be all. I do think Tavares was a mistake for them. Not because he's not a good player worth the money, but because of the wheels that set in motion. There's a reason Larkin is on lists for best contracts in the NHL, and Matthews, Marner, and Nylander are not. I think that team would have been very wise to avoid Tavares, keep overly rapid growth in check, and build that team out in a slower more nuanced way. But I guess that's probably easier said than done in a high pressure market like toronto.

Calgary is officially worse than Ottawa, who would have predicted that at the start of the season? Good to have LGW back up and running, i'll be here tonight for this game Dabura thanks for the ongoing GDTs, you are doing great things This game might be a stinker, but I think the Wings pull through 4-2 Larkin, AA, Cholowski, Filppula with the goals LETS GO WINGS!

No. Take Laviolette when the Predators fire him.

Toronto is Toronto's worst enemy.

Coaches' careers die in Toronto.

P.S. F*** the Leafs.

This is either genius level 9000 or he's he's been knocked in the head a few times lol

That heavy heavy good good

Seider is sucha Chad. The big dick confidence on him is tremendous.

Love this.

It's a good point... I like to come by read, chat, etc... if there is someway we can help prevent or fix outages I'm open to helping out.

Im starting LezGoWings during the next stoppage.

That's the mofoing HYPE! I'm talking about.

Six-game point streak (4 goals, 4 assists). 12 points in his past 12 games. Seider with an assist on that goal. 1 goal and 10 assists through 19 games.

Hronek-Seider is going to be the nastiest top pairing in the league.

Since when do they ONLY have skilled players? They have a very strong top 9, and a line full of muckers / grinders. The problem is, Babcock relied too heavily on that 4th line, and not enough on his top 2 lines. Kadri was / is a solid shutdown 2C. Problem is, Tavares >>> Kadri, and you can't pay your 3C $4.5M when you have 3 guys making overly $30M. This. But also, F*** Mike Babcock.

Unfortunately, we are experiencing a haunting. More like a poltergeist. It won't be pleased until this team is better. We are in for a long road of LGW going down boys. Lorraine Warren will be here next week to help us resolve this issue.