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Yeah I am still pretty sour about it. There's no way a bubble team should be picking top 3. It's even more annoying seeing teams with supposedly less than 2-3% get a top 3 pick in the last 3 drafts and this sh!t happens! I'm gonna be stewing on this for years, lol.

Yeah, without Vernon / Osgood, the Wings may have never won those back-to-back Cups... Again, it's not because I don't think Askarov is the real deal, it's because I don't believe that's the smart way to build a team. Build around a core of elite players, not an elite goalie. 2005 was a pretty weak draft, outside of Crosby, Price and Kopitar. Crosby obviously went 1st, Price went 5th, and Kopitar went 11th. Who would you rather have on your team, likely as your best player for over a decade, Price or Kopitar? For me it's Kopitar, and it's not even close. And not just because Kopitar has two Cups and Price has zero. I'd take the top center (or winger, or defenseman) in a draft, over the top goalie, ever. single. time... Even if Askarov becomes a goalie of prime Price calibre (odds are, he won't), I'd still say at least one or two of the forwards available at 4, will be more valuable to their team, than Askarov will be to his team.

Yzerman played on stacked teams in the early to mid 90s that were undermined by baaaaaad goaltending. Just sayin

Ya hard pass on holtby

1. I'm in agreement that we should have kept Mrazek over Howard. I believe you and I were two of the few people that were vocal on here about how dumb that was. In hindsight, I'd still say we should have gotten rid of Howard in favor of Mrazek. 2. I think you missed the entire point of my post... I don't care what our track record has been in drafting goalies. No team has a great track record in drafting goalies. The reason for that, they're way too unpredictable. Even "can't miss franchise" type goalies taken in the 1st round don't always pan out. I think Askarov will pan out. Maybe not as well as some think... I just think there are bigger needs, and better ways to build a team, than taking a goaltender 4th overall. The teams that have drafted a stud goalie, for the most part, have lucked into it, most of them coming outside of the 1st round... On average, teams pick a goalie every year or two. Most teams have a similar track record as the Wings, hitting on one or two in the past 15-20 years. If it were up to me, I'd take a goalie every two years (at most), and I wouldn't pick one until the 3rd round (at the earliest), unless one dropped dramatically into the 2nd round. Chances are, Askarov will go in the 10-20 range, but if he somehow drops to 32, I'd be all for Yzerman taking him there. Hell, even if he's still there at pick 25, I'd be okay with Yzerman packaging another pick to move up from 32. At 4, I'd be pissed. I'm hoping for Stutzle or Raymond. I'd be okay with Perfetti, Rossi, Holtz, Drysdale. I'd be pissed with Askarov.

I really don't understand how anyone would want this team to take Askarov at 4, or even trade back to take Askarov with our top pick. I'd never waste a top pick on a goaltender, especially with so many elite forwards available. I'd be okay with a lot of different picks at 4, but if we waste our highest pick in 30 years on a goaltender, with all of those elite forwards / defenseman on the board, I'll be pissed. Not only is goaltending a much harder position to project, where these 17/18 year old kids will be in 3-5 years, but it's also a less important position, in terms of overall impact on a game. There's a bigger gap between an average to elite forward / defensemen, than there is between an average to elite goaltender in my opinion. Teams often win with average goaltending, as long as they have elite talent in front of them. Teams seldom win with elite goaltending, and average defense / forwards in front of them. Look at how many elite goaltenders have never won anything. Look at how many elite teams have won with average goaltending. Build from the forwards in, not the goalie out... This team is lacking in a lot of areas, but goaltending should be addressed in the later rounds. Not 4th overall... If Yzerman wants Askarov, he should try to move up from 32, or acquire another 1st round pick by taking on a bad contract. I don't think he should even be a consideration at 4th overall...

As a pessimist - a realist - I expected us to drop to 4th, and I can honestly say that I'm not surprised that a bubble team will have the 1st pick. I'm gonna say Chicago will win it.

The more highlights I watch of Askarov, the more I want the Wings to take him fourth no matter who is available. Kid is just unreal and still quite young. Absolute franchise goalie potential. There are rumblings that Yzerman is very open to taking him fourth if you are to believe the "insiders". Perfetti or Rossi are the "safe bets", but don't be surprised if he does take Askarov. Nothing is off the table. As for attracting one of the top UFA goalies, the fact that playoffs aren't in the picture for awhile probably will be a consideration for guys like Lehner and Holtby. Both are in their prime, and Lehner would like to win a Cup obv. Griess or another similar caliber goalie that will split time with Bernier might be more realistic.

so the NHL has said that all the teams playing in the 5 game play-in ARE considered post-season playing teams, playoff teams...so ya, the NHL awarded a playoff team the #1 pick. Sorry about the dead-horse beating, but if a team qualifies for the post-season, then they should not be in the lottery...sorry, won't mention it anymore...until Toronto or Pittsburgh or Edmonton get the #1. on the #4, I hope Yzerman does not take the goalie. As was said, we can throw a ton of money a a UFA G, There is always the 2nd round for a G. There is the possibility Byfield falls. Look at Zadina. We know the #1 pick, but maybe LA wants Stuztle or a D, and then same goes for Ottawa, if LA takes D then OTT could take Stutzle. I highly doubt they all stick to the consensus order of Lafrienere, Byfield, Stutzle, but then again that could happen too... I am just so sickened by the top pick result, I almost cannot even stomach talking about it. It's not even that we fell to 4th, it's the winner...ugh, ok, this time I'll stop for real. Sorry!

Im smashing s*** if we take perfetti , if the wings didnt fall back perfetti wouldnt even be mentioned as a top 5 pick ... that should say something . Dont take him cause he plays for your buddys team , id rather listen to hakan andersson and pick raymond . I think the one and only time we took a swede in the first from i remember is kronwall. Hakan must be salivating at taking a top swedish prospect for once

I have a theory that @ChristopherReevesLegs and @krsmith17 are two competing personalities trapped in the same body and use the same device to unknowingly argue with each on here.

Yeah, guy's a clown, and like most clowns, he can be funny from time to time, but for the most part, he's annoying as s*** (insufferable). Suspension after suspension, and he still doesn't get it. It's a sad reality that a lot of people are so miserable in real life, that they go on the internet to try to bring others down with them...