evilzyme 769 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 #RedWings will buy out D Carlo Colaiacovo. F Todd Bertuzzi will not be bought out. -- Helene St. James (@HeleneStJames) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Good I'm glad were keeping Bert. Now what's up with Sammy 5 Hockeymom1960, Ally, Cloune and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Yay Glad Bert's back! 5 55fan, MidMichSteve, 13dangledangle and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 And according to her, it looks like Cleary will be around 3 years $9mil (What the f***???) and Brunner will be around $2.5mil a year with no length specified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 i cant f*cken believe we couldnt even get a team to take coliacovo for like a 7th round pick , hes got 1 year left ... ughhh i wanted to keep a buyout for next year incase holland wakes up and sees franzens longterm deal is a big risk And according to her, it looks like Cleary will be around 3 years $9mil (What the f***???) and Brunner will be around $2.5mil a year with no length specified. ok with brunner but cleary wtf , holland just keeps the same old players all the time , im surprised he hasnt begged fedorov to come back for one more year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilzyme 769 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Looks like they don't want to buy out any forwards according to her latest article Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 And according to her, it looks like Cleary will be around 3 years $9mil (What the f***???) and Brunner will be around $2.5mil a year with no length specified. link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I'm glad Big Bert is coming back. When healthy he brings so much to the table. And plays really well with Pavel (who doesn't though?haha). And he's one of our best shootout guys! If worse come to worse and he re-injures his back, we obviously have a lot of options to take his place. Love me some Bertuzzi! 2 55fan and Ally reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 link? http://www.freep.com/article/20130702/SPORTS05/307020109 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nyqvististhefuture 1,002 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I'm glad Big Bert is coming back. When healthy he brings so much to the table. And plays really well with Pavel (who doesn't though?haha). And he's one of our best shootout guys! If worse come to worse and he re-injures his back, we obviously have a lot of options to take his place. Love me some Bertuzzi! hes done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 http://www.freep.com/article/20130702/SPORTS05/307020109 thanks. If Brunner is seeking 2.5 mill then I don't see why we won't get a deal done. Also, Weiss is a capable filp replacement imo so I'll take this all as more good news then bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 http://www.freep.com/article/20130702/SPORTS05/307020109 I may be one of the biggest Cleary fans out there, but if he gets re-signed for 3yrs at 3mil I'll be pretty pissed. A 2yr deal for 2.5 or less would've been all I'd like to see. I hope Helene is a bit off base. The Brunner # is good. 5 Nev, nuts2u, Z Winged Dangler and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 2.5 is a great deal for us in regard to Brunner, I don't care if he wants 6 years. I thought he'd come in closer to 3, maybe even 3.5 to keep him... But 3 per for Cleary?! WTF?! 3 nuts2u, pondrocket and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I would expect Brunner to be asking for 4-5 years or something and we're wanting 2-3 and they're probably even on pricing for this deal not to be done yet. That or Brunner wants to see what other teams think he's worth right now and go back to Holland and see what he does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) I may be one of the biggest Cleary fans out there, but if he gets re-signed for 3yrs at 3mil I'll be pretty pissed. A 2yr deal for 2.5 or less would've been all I'd like to see. I hope Helene is a bit off base. The Brunner # is good. If Cleary gets 3 mill I think I will officially rage. The guy should be in the 1.5-2mill TOPS. Any more than that and Kenny is throwing money down the toilet. Although I must re-state we should NOT be re-signing him to ANY contract Edited July 3, 2013 by TheDetroitRedWings 2 LidsFan and nuts2u reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingnut in WA 86 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 So were in the process of giving a guy that skates like he has cement in his skates, gets knocked over by a breeze, and in general is on the WAY decline of his career 3 yrs and 3 mil per? But for some reason can't give vinny 4.5 for 5 years and a role that we actually NEED!! Man good thing Holland has a hard on for his vets or the wings could actually win a few more cups. 3 Hockeymom1960, pondrocket and nuts2u reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MileHighWingsGuy 178 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Vinny at 4.5 was too steep but Cleary at $3 is OK.... got it Kenny 4 SuperCalaFilppulastic!, LidsFan, nuts2u and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) I like Bert. Cleary signing seems like a lot, but everyone from teammates to coaching to management seems to like him. He's a heart guy who gives his all every night. Good for the bottom six Edit: I can't imagine 3x3 being true. If it is, its a little much Edited July 3, 2013 by wingsfan4795 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucktividi 472 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) Obviously the pace of 37 years old Cleary won't be a problem unlike Lecavalier ...good $$$ for Brunner though Edited July 3, 2013 by pucktividi 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) And according to her, it looks like Cleary will be around 3 years $9mil (What the f***???) and Brunner will be around $2.5mil a year with no length specified. HAHAHAHA. Wow, if this is indeed true, Holland has seriously reached a new low n his stupidity. 4.5M too big a risk for a proven elite player. 3M a good number for a guy 37 years old for 3 year contract. Seriously? Edited July 3, 2013 by ShanahanMan 1 GMRwings1983 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I like Bert. Cleary signing seems like a lot, but everyone from teammates to coaching to management seems to like him. He's a heart guy who gives his all every night. Good for the bottom six Edit: I can't imagine 3x3 being true. If it is, its a little much That's the problem though, we don't play him in the bottom 6. He played in the TOP 6 every game he played, which is obviously quite ridiculous and yet another reason why I and most others don't want him back 2 Wings3:16 and LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 Now, get a snarly stay at home defensemen that clears the crease. Douglas Murray, Ryan O'Byrne, or Jim Vandermeer. Bertuzzi is still effective if he can get healthy, so I'm not upset that he's sticking around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerDan 20 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I think using a buyout on Carlo is a waste. IMHO, he was one of our top 4 defensemen in the playoffs, and is paid less than at least one guy who he outplayed (Quincy). I think he could and would crack our lineup even with DeKeyser back. Now, we are relying on Smith to step it up and Quincy to play to his potential every night vs. having a guy that came in and played rock solid in our back pocket. And we're doing this why? To keep Samuelsson?? WTF??? I don't have too much of a problem with the Cleary deal, though I wish it was more like 2 years at 2M or 2.5M. I know a lot of people want a star player in his place, but I'd argue that he brings some of the things to the table that we need: he'll go to the net, he plays tougher than his size and he gives 100% every time out on the ice. He's like Rudy - I wish I could put his heart into Franzen's body. I don't have too much of a problem with keeping Bert too. If he's hurt, we can IR him and maybe get someone else (IR doesn't count against cap?). While if he's truly healthy, he can bring some size, grit, toughness and scoring. 7 F.Michael, derblaueClaus, GoWings1905 and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 I'm fine with Bert, but I'm hoping that Cleary contract rumor is inflated in both term and money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) I think using a buyout on Carlo is a waste. IMHO, he was one of our top 4 defensemen in the playoffs, and is paid less than at least one guy who he outplayed (Quincy). I think he could and would crack our lineup even with DeKeyser back. Now, we are relying on Smith to step it up and Quincy to play to his potential every night vs. having a guy that came in and played rock solid in our back pocket. And we're doing this why? To keep Samuelsson?? WTF??? I don't have too much of a problem with the Cleary deal, though I wish it was more like 2 years at 2M or 2.5M. I know a lot of people want a star player in his place, but I'd argue that he brings some of the things to the table that we need: he'll go to the net, he plays tougher than his size and he gives 100% every time out on the ice. He's like Rudy - I wish I could put his heart into Franzen's body. I don't have too much of a problem with keeping Bert too. If he's hurt, we can IR him and maybe get someone else (IR doesn't count against cap?). While if he's truly healthy, he can bring some size, grit, toughness and scoring. He is 37, this contract would end at 40, he's our weakest player with the puck and literally never ceases to fall everytime theres a battle. Even on the free market, he wouldn't get more than 2M. Edited July 3, 2013 by ShanahanMan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites