Jersey Wing 1,521 Report post Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Well, regular season but goalies after a long layoff well... http://www.si.com/nhl/2016/02/12/report-carey-price-montreal-canadiens-injury-out-for-regular-season Edited February 12, 2016 by Jersey Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted February 12, 2016 ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 12, 2016 His health has gotten in the way of their chances to make the Finals the last few seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 12, 2016 And possibly in the way of making the playoffs this year. Let's just hope Montreal doesn't win the lottery ha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 12, 2016 The same issue has plague Howard...These past few seasons of injuries seems to have derailed him - and having Mrazek playing as well as he has most likely effects Howard's confidence as well. Unlike the Habs - we have a 'better' back-up. LOL. Howard is not in the same league as Price. I feel Montreal could have broken through to the SCF either this year or a few years ago when he was hurt. Instead, they'll be lucky to make the playoffs, let alone the SCF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted February 12, 2016 Therrien is denying the reports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 Ouchhhh! Their record since he was sidelined only proves what most NHL hockey fans know, and most Canadiens fans keep trying to deny..that their team is nothing without Price. Sucks when your team is based around having an elite goaltender, and Ben Scrivens is your current starter. haha 1 DRW Dominance reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kickazz 5,459 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) After winning all those trophies last year you had a feeling a jinx was coming. Feel bad for Price - really hope he has a healthy recovering, guys a great goaltender and arguably the best in the world at the moment. Edited February 13, 2016 by kickazz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 After winning all those trophies last year you had a feeling a jinx was coming. Feel bad for Price - really hope he has a healthy recovering, guys a great goaltender and arguably the best in the world at the moment. I remember another Canadians goalie winning the Hart and Vezina in 2002 and he was never the same after that. 1 joesuffP reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 LOL. Howard is not in the same league as Price. I feel Montreal could have broken through to the SCF either this year or a few years ago when he was hurt. Instead, they'll be lucky to make the playoffs, let alone the SCF. He never said Howard was at the same level as Price, I don't think anyone would. What he said was that Howard went through something similar which he did. People forget that 1 year ago Howard's stat's were right up there with the other elite goalies of the NHL, and was involved in Vezina talk. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 I remember another Canadians goalie winning the Hart and Vezina in 2002 and he was never the same after that. No way Jose! 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 This right here. Up until a few seasons ago Howard was one of the top 5 netminders in the league...Injuries combined with shoot-outs seem to have had an effect on him where now he's a back-up. Holland would be doing him a favor if he was moved by the end of the month. Right now Howard's career is just screaming for a fresh start. Not that Howard is at the level the following player was at, but I remember back in the early 2000's when Belfour left Dallas, he sucked in his last season there and Marty Turco took away the starting job. Some people were saying he was done, long story short he went to Toronto and completely revived his career. Dubnyk did it last year did in on Minny, too a much lesser degree Luongo/Florida, it happens quite frequently. 2 e_prime and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) #FREEJIMMY (No really, what will you give us for him? No we don't want to retain any salary. Pleaseandthankyouverymuch.) Edited February 13, 2016 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) I remember another Canadians goalie winning the Hart and Vezina in 2002 and he was never the same after that. Price has a lot more great seasons than Theodore had. No comparison. Theodore couldn't handle the pressure of playing in Montreal. Price has handled it better than anyone since Roy. Edited February 13, 2016 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 Like I said in another thread, I really hope Holland has been paying close attention to what the Leafs have been able to do over the past year, in regards to shedding contracts. Getting rid of Clarkson, Kessel and Phaneuf is no easy feat but they made it happen. Nearly $20M in awful contracts off the books. It may take some creativity but trading Howard along with his entire contract is definitely doable... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 Only way to save the season is to call up John Scott. Might at least put fans in the seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 Like I said in another thread, I really hope Holland has been paying close attention to what the Leafs have been able to do over the past year, in regards to shedding contracts. Getting rid of Clarkson, Kessel and Phaneuf is no easy feat but they made it happen. Nearly $20M in awful contracts off the books. It may take some creativity but trading Howard along with his entire contract is definitely doable... Very good point! 1 Year ago people were calling the Clarkson contract the worst in the NHL and the Leafs were able to get rid of it without retaining anything cap wise. If Holland is patient, he will be able to make his move. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 13, 2016 Price has a lot more great seasons than Theodore had. No comparison. Theodore couldn't handle the pressure of playing in Montreal. Price has handled it better than anyone since Roy. No comparison? This is probably the best comparison possible. Both goalies came into Montreal with a pedigree, and were considered "stud" goaltenders Price Won the Vezina & Hart at the age of 27, Theodore won the Vezina and Hart at the age of 26. Sure Price had more career wins at the time of the win, but these two definitely have similarities. Not saying Price is going to turn out like Theodore, and not saying both situations are the exact same, but you cannot say "No comparison". 1 chaps80 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 No comparison? This is probably the best comparison possible. Both goalies came into Montreal with a pedigree, and were considered "stud" goaltenders Price Won the Vezina & Hart at the age of 27, Theodore won the Vezina and Hart at the age of 26. Sure Price had more career wins at the time of the win, but these two definitely have similarities. Not saying Price is going to turn out like Theodore, and not saying both situations are the exact same, but you cannot say "No comparison". Well put! I wasn't talking about stats or the pressure of being the starting goalie in a huge hockey market, or that Price will crash and burn. Just saying Theodore was an elite goalie just coming off winning those awards. Price is doing the exact same now. I'm 99.9% sure he won't suffer the same fate as Theodore though. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 Like I said in another thread, I really hope Holland has been paying close attention to what the Leafs have been able to do over the past year, in regards to shedding contracts. Getting rid of Clarkson, Kessel and Phaneuf is no easy feat but they made it happen. Nearly $20M in awful contracts off the books. It may take some creativity but trading Howard along with his entire contract is definitely doable... Very good point! 1 Year ago people were calling the Clarkson contract the worst in the NHL and the Leafs were able to get rid of it without retaining anything cap wise. If Holland is patient, he will be able to make his move. With Clarkson they took back Horton. LTIR is better than nothing, but it's not really the same as shedding a contract. Kessel wasn't really that bad a contract. Yeah, it's a lot and long term, but he's only 28 and he's pretty consistently been one of the top scorers in the league. And they retained $1.2M. The Phanuef deal was decent, but they still took back like $9.5M in bad contracts through next year. So yeah, I hope he is paying close attention to Toronto. Close enough to realize we probably will have to retain some, so we don't miss an opportunity looking for a better one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 With Clarkson they took back Horton. LTIR is better than nothing, but it's not really the same as shedding a contract. Kessel wasn't really that bad a contract. Yeah, it's a lot and long term, but he's only 28 and he's pretty consistently been one of the top scorers in the league. And they retained $1.2M. The Phanuef deal was decent, but they still took back like $9.5M in bad contracts through next year. So yeah, I hope he is paying close attention to Toronto. Close enough to realize we probably will have to retain some, so we don't miss an opportunity looking for a better one. I fully understand the Clarkson/Horton situation. My point is that Clarkson looked like a player who had zero chance of being moved but it was done with some clever thinking on Toronto's part. I believe Detroit can do the same with Howard (clever thinking, not trading for an injured guy) if they wait and find a situation that they can exploit. Its all about timing in these situations. FOr example, maybe a goalie goes down from a contender before the trade deadline and Holland essentially give them Howard as a salary dump and then lets said team deal with his contract in the off-season. Not saying this will happen, but again my point is to wait for the right situation. Imagine a team like Chicago if Crawford tore an ACL, or a team like LA if Quick tore an ACL etc. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaps80 1,591 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 Who has Prongers "contract" now? Maybe Holland can trade Howard for that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 Who has Prongers "contract" now? Maybe Holland can trade Howard for that? Arizona, but the actual cash amount being paid out is 525,000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjr2012 439 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 you really think mtl would want howard with price done? if so who could we want from them thats worth the trade i know who i want but that will never happen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted February 14, 2016 Rough year for the Canadian teams. If the season ended today, none of them would make the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites