Pulkkinen claimed by Minnesota Wild

[kliq 3,754]

49 minutes ago, amato said:

I feel like if Holland can claim him and send him to Grand Rapids he wouldn't think twice.. I'm sure he was hoping pulk would make it there in the first place. 

 

Don't see why we wouldn't be be able to claim him? 

If we do claim him and actually get him, does that mean we have to place him on waivers again?

[Buppy 1,720]

I guess this debunks the 30-day thing that's been talked about.

As I understand the rule; if we were to be the only team to put in a claim for him, we could send him to GR without waivers.

Not sure what would happen if someone else puts in a claim as well. Whether we would waive him again, or if he'd go right to the other team.

If we can, we definitely should. I still believe he can be a good player. He's only been skating for about a month after his injury.

 

[DickieDunn 2,571]

Pulks just punched his ticket as a career AHLer. 
 
If I'm him I just go with it and rip up the AHL for the next 10 years lol

I'd go play at home instead

[sputman 1,268]

1 hour ago, Buppy said:

If we can, we definitely should. I still believe he can be a good player. He's only been skating for about a month after his injury

If we picked him back up he'd be behind Mantha, Jurco, and probably Bertuzzi on the depth chart. If I were him I'd hope to get picked up somewhere else or pack it in.

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

3 hours ago, kliq said:

If we do claim him and actually get him, does that mean we have to place him on waivers again?

If we submit a claim and we are the only team to submit a claim then he goes right to Grand Rapids. Otherwise he has to go through waivers again.

[kickazz 5,459]

Call me cheap but I still wanted something for him back in 2015.

Poor guy, I hope he gets an oppurtunity somewhere though. 

Looks like he cleared waivers.

Edited October 29, 2016 by kickazz

[krsmith17 7,191]

If the Wings had put in a claim on him they could have sent him down to Grand Rapids, instead he ends up in Iowa. Oh well...

[Andy Pred 48 337]

I hope we resign him in the off season on a 2way deal. He's really been a top pro in GR and a real danger at the AHL level. 

[Buppy 1,720]

Seems weird that we wouldn't take him back. Maybe there's something else to the rules.

[krsmith17 7,191]

The way I understand it is that the only way we could have gotten Pulkkinen back in Grand Rapids is if we were the only team to put a claim in on him. If any team before us in the order did, they would get him. If any team after us in the order did, we would get him, but he'd have to stay in Detroit, counting against our cap (which we don't have)... The only thing I'm confused about is, if there's no minimum day / game rule that he must stay on the roster, couldn't we just hope we were the only team that put a claim in on him (we would have been), and if we weren't, just waive him again right away?..

That would be pretty rough for the kid though, being waived three times in the span of a few weeks...

[kliq 3,754]

When Detroit put him through waivers, was Minnesota the only team to put a claim in?

[krsmith17 7,191]

According to Dreger, there were "at least 3 teams" that put in a claim for Pulkkinen when we waived him...

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

Just wanted to mention Pulks cleared waivers today. Thought we might submit a claim, but apparently we didn't. Minny fans saying the same things we said. Doesn't have the skill set of a bottom 6 player. Doesn't have enough talent to be a top 6 player.

[e_prime 1,936]

Haven't we devoted enough pages to a guy who can't make the top team in the Central Divison? 

[Wingnut1989 165]

#mnwild has traded Teemu Pulkkinen to #coyotes for future considerations.

[krsmith17 7,191]

Strange move. Why didn't Arizona put a claim in on him? Not that it matters. I doubt Arizona will ever have to give up anything in the way of "future considerations"...

[amato 3,209]

At least he should get some playing time there of all places i guess.. does seem weird that they didn't just claim him on waivers. Weren't paying attention maybe?  

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

17 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

Strange move. Why didn't Arizona put a claim in on him? Not that it matters. I doubt Arizona will ever have to give up anything in the way of "future considerations"...

If they had claimed him on waivers he would have to start in the NHL or pass through waivers again to go to the AHL. Because he was traded for he can now go directly to the AHL.

Since he's passed through waivers, the Coyotes can send him down and call him up for the next 10 games/30 days, which gives them some added flexibility going into the deadline. Seeing as they didn't really give up anything significant in return anyways, it's a bit better to acquire him in a trade after he's passed waivers than it would've been yesterday off waivers.

Edited February 27, 2017 by ChristopherReevesLegs

[DatsyukianDekes 2,428]

 

 

[kliq 3,754]

Going back and reading through this thread, its pretty funny how upset some people were with losing Pulkkinen and Frk through waivers.

If you want to criticize Holland, cool, there are many moves he has made that are definitely worth debating good or bad. As far as these two being waived being a mistake, at this point it is not even debatable, they hold zero value, or at best "future considerations" lol.

[krsmith17 7,191]

I'd still take either on this team over Miller or Ott, but that's just me...

[kliq 3,754]

3 minutes ago, krsmith17 said:

I'd still take either on this team over Miller or Ott, but that's just me...

Well Miller has no value as well lol. I would take Frk over either though, Pulkkinen I'm starting to think just isnt an NHL player. too one dimensional. 

[kickazz 5,459]

Still think they should have traded him in 2015 and gotten something for it. No hindsight either, I called it that he wasn't an NHL player well before that. Small one-dimensional NHL players rarely work and when you add the combination of the Red Wings mind-set they for sure will never work. We're too defensive (traditional defense) minded in our coaching styles. 

Sheahan could be the next Pulkinnen in a couple of years (put on waivers); although being a center I think he will still have some value. If it were me, I would have traded Sheahan this deadline because I predict he has a higher chance of not panning out for us (speaking purely in terms of probability). He just doesn't seem to fit into any particular role. A big guy that doesn't use his size, not particularly good as an offensive center, not much of a grinder; has a good wrist shot but not the hockey IQ to find the openings for it. We'll see in a couple of years if I'm right. 

Obviously I hope I'm wrong about him for the teams sake. 

Edited March 3, 2017 by kickazz

[Jonas Mahonas 1,793]

7 minutes ago, kickazz said:

Still think they should have traded him in 2015 and gotten something for it. No hindsight either, I called it that he wasn't an NHL player well before that. Small one-dimensional NHL players rarely work and when you add the combination of the Red Wings mind-set they for sure will never work. We're too defensive (traditional defense) minded in our coaching styles. 

Sheahan could be the next Pulkinnen in a couple of years (put on waivers); although being a center I think he will still have some value. If it were me, I would have traded Sheahan this deadline because I predict he has a higher chance of not panning out for us. He just doesn't seem to fit-in to any particular role. A big guy that doesn't use his size, not particularly good as an offensive center, not much of a grinder; has a good wrist shot but not the hockey IQ to use it. We'll see in a couple of years if I'm right. 

Obviously I hope I'm wrong about him for the teams sake. 

Add to the fact that we already have 17 other skaters that play 6 inches shorter and 50 lbs lighter than they actually are.  Between Nyquist, Tatar, Miller, and Pulkkinen, you had about 1 ml of testosterone.

[WingsallTheway 383]

Pulks has more goals than Sheahan