Official 2018 NHL Amateur Entry Draft Discussion Thread

[mackel 679]

27 minutes ago, TLGTrico said:

You mean like we tanked for Dahlin?

I hope not... I'd highly prefer some size along with the skill... Bouchard and Dobson for me.

[LeftWinger 4,949]

convicnce Snow to take our 2 firsts for JT and their 2 2nds! That would give them FOUR 1sts!!! Hell toss a player in to boot! Ok, ok, now I'm dreaming!

Edited April 29, 2018 by LeftWinger

[LeftWinger 4,949]

3 minutes ago, F.Michael said:

Actually - that might be the Isles best offer.

Why give them anything when in a few days after the draft JT might walk for free?

Sign and trade then!

Nah, I was just being silly...

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Montreal will win.

So, Dobson, Bouchard or Wahlstrom?

If we keep this spot and he's still available, give me Bouchard. We need a good D prospect and you can't teach the kind of poise he has. I know everyone is big on Boqvist, but I'm just not sold that his game transitions well.

[LeftWinger 4,949]

4 minutes ago, Wheelchairsuperhero said:

If we keep this spot and he's still available, give me Bouchard. We need a good D prospect and you can't teach the kind of poise he has. I know everyone is big on Boqvist, but I'm just not sold that his game transitions well.

I tend to agree, but of course the usual trolling suspects are going to say it's because he is Swedish.  Honestly, I don't think he makes it to 6. He is the 2nd rank D behind Dahlin, so he'll probably go.

Here is my prediction for 1-5:

Dahlin

Svech

Zadina

Boqvist

Tkachuk

 

[GMRwings1983 8,793]

Dahlin should pull a Lindros and say that he wants to play for the Red Wings because of the Swedish Mafia.  

[TLGTrico 622]

People like to say that finishing last doesn't guarantee anything, but this is the 2nd time in 3 years the worst team got the top pick.

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

10 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

I tend to agree, but of course the usual trolling suspects are going to say it's because he is Swedish.  Honestly, I don't think he makes it to 6. He is the 2nd rank D behind Dahlin, so he'll probably go.

Here is my prediction for 1-5:

Dahlin

Svech

Zadina

Boqvist

Tkachuk

 

This is pretty much how I see it playing it out. I wouldn't be upset if Boqvist fell to us and we got him or anything, I just think he's a high risk/reward type and I feel like we already took that kind of pick with Cholowski. Meanwhile, I feel like Bouchard may be in that Charlie McAvoy lane.

[mackel 679]

Dobson is ranked ahead of Bouchard... just noticed this... hmmmmm

[LeftWinger 4,949]

Dobson would be a GREAT choice!

[MileHighWingsGuy 178]

5 minutes ago, TLGTrico said:

People like to say that finishing last doesn't guarantee anything, but this is the 2nd time in 3 years the worst team got the top pick.

We’ll try harder next year. I’m sure Holland will help the process

[marcaractac 3,962]

11 minutes ago, TLGTrico said:

People like to say that finishing last doesn't guarantee anything, but this is the 2nd time in 3 years the worst team got the top pick.

The team with the highest odds wins the lottery the most often? Whooda think it?

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

13 minutes ago, TLGTrico said:

People like to say that finishing last doesn't guarantee anything, but this is the 2nd time in 3 years the worst team got the top pick.

People like to say that because that's just how it works. As in, only 2 of the last 3 teams with the best odds actually got the pick. Next year, that may very easily turn to 2 of the last 4. Another way we could say this is, "Finishing last doesn't guarantee anything."

[TLGTrico 622]

If MTL would have got the top pick while sitting just 2 points behind us, I would have been REALLY peeved.

[Barrie 900]

It would have been great to win the lottery, but at #6 we can get a really good defenseman. I'd be happy with Dobson or Bouchard.

I'm happy for Buffalo. I live an hour away from Buffalo, it's a great town, with great hockey fans, who've been through a lot. They deserve a break like that.

[13dangledangle 958]

Well fak.  I was really hoping we wouldn't drop any spots but go up.  At least we only dropped one spot, Kenny's face said it all

[mackel 679]

7 minutes ago, 13dangledangle said:

Well fak.  I was really hoping we wouldn't drop any spots but go up.  At least we only dropped one spot, Kenny's face said it all

Hahaha I noticed that too...  a real well F look.

[Wheelchairsuperhero 1,453]

I wouldn't be upset if we got this guy either (Oliver Wahlstrom).

 

 

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Interesting that Quinn Hughes has been selected for Team USA maybe Blash will see what he has before we pick him? 

They idea of trading our Vegas pick in the first to Carolina with Svechnikov for Hanifin is interesting, can't see that being enough for him thou. 

Maybe it's the master plan, take Quinn then tank for his brother next year. 

[LeftWinger 4,949]

A good handful of kids on team USA! 

 

Edited April 29, 2018 by LeftWinger

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

#6 is basically #3. Dahlin and Svech will be gone. We are guaranteed one of Boqvist, Hughes, Bouchard, Zadina, or Tkachuk. Nothing to complain about here. Pretty sure we go D.

 

Edited April 30, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

From all of the mock drafts I am seeing, it's wide open after #2. The most popular pick for us is Quinn Hughes, followed by Bouchard. I've posted more reputable ones here:

https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2018/4/29/17298954/red-wings-pick-6th-overall-in-the-2018-nhl-draft-mock-draft-quinn-hughes-rasmus-dahlin-prospects    

Quinn Hughes

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2772305-nhl-mock-draft-2018-initial-post-lottery-predictions

Oliver Walstrom

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1071168

Evan Bouchard

 

Edited April 30, 2018 by Neomaxizoomdweebie

[mackel 679]

1 hour ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

From all of the mock drafts I am seeing, it's wide open after #2. The most popular pick for us is Quinn Hughes, followed by Bouchard. I've posted more reputable ones here:

https://www.wingingitinmotown.com/2018/4/29/17298954/red-wings-pick-6th-overall-in-the-2018-nhl-draft-mock-draft-quinn-hughes-rasmus-dahlin-prospects    

Quinn Hughes

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2772305-nhl-mock-draft-2018-initial-post-lottery-predictions

Oliver Walstrom

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1071168

Evan Bouchard

 

In the rankings I'm following Huges is ranked lower than, Dahlin, Boqvist, Dobson and Bouchard in that order... the only way we draft him IMHO is if they pull the ole he's from Michigan so we'll draft him trick...  which is a fireable offence.

12 hours ago, Andy Pred 48 said:

Interesting that Quinn Hughes has been selected for Team USA maybe Blash will see what he has before we pick him.

Hate this ^^

12 hours ago, Andy Pred 48 said:

They idea of trading our Vegas pick in the first to Carolina with Svechnikov for Hanifin is interesting, can't see that being enough for him thou.

LOVE THIS ^^^^

[Buppy 1,720]

	Bob McKenzie	Craig Button	Jeff Marek	ISS	NHLCS
4	Brady Tkachuk	Brady Tkachuk* #2	Brady Tkachuk	Brady Tkachuk	Brady Tkachuk #2
5	Evan Bouchard	Evan Bouchard	Adam Boqvist	Oliver Wahlstrom	Evan Bouchard #4
6	Adam Boqvist	Adam Boqvist	Noah Dobson	Evan Bouchard	Noah Dobson #5
7	Oliver Wahlstrom	Barrett Hayton	Oliver Wahlstrom	Quinn Hughes	Quintin Hughes #6
8	Noah Dobson	Noah Dobson	Evan Bouchard	Noah Dobson	Oliver Wahlstrom #7
9	Quinton Hughes	Oliver Wahlstrom	Quinton Hughes	Adam Boqvist
10		Jesperi Kotkaniemi			Adam Boqvist #2
11		Bode Wilde
12		Quinn Hughes
	McKeen's Hockey	Future Consid.	Hockey Prospect	Cam Robinson	Peter Harling
4	Quinn Hughes	Brady Tkachuk	Adam Boqvist	Quinn Hughes* #3	Brady Tkachuk
5	Brady Tkachuk	Adam Boqvist	Brady Tkachuk	Adam Boqvist	Adam Boqvist
6	Evan Bouchard	Quinton Hughes	Oliver Wahlstrom	Oliver Wahlstrom	Evan Bouchard
7	Oliver Wahlstrom	Oliver Wahlstrom	Quinn Hughes	Noah Dobson	Noah Dobson
8	Adam Boqvist	Ty Smith	Joel Farabee	Ty Smith	Quinn Hughes
9	Joe Veleno	Evan Bouchard	Noah Dodson	Brady Tkachuk	Oliver Wahlstrom
10	Noah Dobson	Joel Farabee	Jesperi Kotkaniemi	Joel Farabee
11		Noah Dobson	Grigori Denisenko	Evan Bouchard
12			Rasmus Kupari
13			Bode Wilde
14			Ty Smith
15			Evan Bouchard
	Sam Cosentino	Steve Kournianos	Chris Peters	Ryan Kennedy	Scott Wheeler
4	Brady Tkachuk	Adam Boqvist	Brady Tkachuk	Brady Tkachuk* #3	Quinton Hughes
5	Adam Boqvist	Joe Veleno	Quinn Hughes	Adam Boqvist	Adam Boqvist
6	Oliver Wahlstrom	Brady Tkachuk	Adam Boqvist	Oliver Wahlstrom	Ryan Merkley
7	Noah Dobson	Oliver Wahlstrom	Oliver Wahlstrom	Quinton Hughes	Evan Bouchard
8	Evan Bouchard	Ty Smith	Evan Bouchard	Barrett Hayton	Oliver Wahlstrom
9	Quinton Hughes	Joel Farabee	Ty Smith	Evan Bouchard	Brady Tkachuk
10		Quinn Hughes	Joel Farabee	Isac Lundestrom	Joe Veleno
11		Rasmus Kupari	Barrett Hayton	Joel Farabee	Jesperi Kotkanieni
12		Jesperi Kotkaniemi	Joe Veleno	Bode Wilde	Noah Dobson
13		Barrett Hayton	Isac Lundestrom	Noah Dobson
14		Noah Dobson	Mattias Samuelsson
15		Bode Wilde	Grigori Denisenko
16		Akil Thomas	Noah Dobson
17		Evan Bouchard

 

Tkachuk	4.79
Boqvist	5.57
Wahlstrom	6.93
Hughes	7.14
Bouchard	8.57
Dobson	9.71

 

A collection of rankings with averages at the end. Almost everyone had Dahlin, Svech, and Zadina as the top 3 so I eliminated them, a few exceptions are noted. Focusing on just the 6 guys we've been discussing. Other guys are left in there just out of laziness. 

I think Arizona goes with a defenseman. Ottawa could go either way; I'd guess forward if they're confident they'll hold on to Karlsson (or get a big enough return in trade). 

Boqvist is currently my top choice, but I think one of those two will take him. Really been liking what I've seen on Dobson lately, seems like the most complete of the four, even though he looks so ungainly in his highlight reels. 

Of course, my opinion will probably change with the next scouting report I see. So much to like about all of those kids.

[amato 3,210]

https://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-mock-draft-post-lottery-edition-1.1071168

TSN post lottery mock from Craig Button for anyone interested. Has Hughes going right before us to the Coyotes, and us taking Bouchard. Boqvist at 10 to the Oilers. 

I haven’t seen enough of Dobson personally so I’m not sure how i feel about him. Boqvist, Bouchard, & Hughes are my top 3 at #6 and I keep shuffling around which of them I like most; I’d be happy with any of them.

Also, I don’t think Hughes being at Michigan gives him any sort of edge other than he was easier to watch play for scouts (not like that really matters as much these days). Being at Michigan doesn’t boost his likelyhood to end up being picked by Detroit, but his skating ability does. I’m excited to see how he does at worlds.