2024 TDL Thread

[kipwinger 8,762]

1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

and so it begins!

https://x.com/NHLFlyers/status/1744513237909954872?s=20

 

How good is this Cutter guy? Drysdale was a 1st round pick, plus they got a 2nd? Cutter was a 5th OA, but Drysdale was a 6th OA, and they 2nd will probably end up being like a low 1st.

Cutter Gauthier is really good. He was just the 1C for Team USA at the World Juniors. But he left Philly in a bad spot by telling them he wouldn't sign with them, so the return is suboptimal. Drysdale is good but injury prone, hence why the 2nd was thrown in.

[88Kaner 33]

9 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

and so it begins!

https://x.com/NHLFlyers/status/1744513237909954872?s=20

 

How good is this Cutter guy? Drysdale was a 1st round pick, plus they got a 2nd? Cutter was a 5th OA, but Drysdale was a 6th OA, and they 2nd will probably end up being like a low 1st.

One guy is injury prone and a low end top four guy. The other has the potential to be ppg two way stud. Give me cutter any day of the week that's why they got the second. Who knows how long Drysdale will be in the league

7 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Cutter Gauthier is really good. He was just the 1C for Team USA at the World Juniors. But he left Philly in a bad spot by telling them he wouldn't sign with them, so the return is suboptimal. Drysdale is good but injury prone, hence why the 2nd was thrown in.

I didn't see this lol

[Troy McClure 347]

The Philly draft history since Couturier in 2011 is kinda tragic...

2012: Laughton not a bad choice, but only ends up a 3rd liner. They do manage to get Ghostbear in the 3rd, but turns out he can't play D.
2013: Total waste
2014: Sanheim turns out to be a big let down
2015: Provorov is sorta a disappoint, but Konecny turns into a poors mans 1st liner!
2016: Rubstov is a total waste
2017: Nolan Patrick at #2 overall has his career destroyed by injury
2018: Farabee still might turn out to be a 2nd liner one day...
2019: Cam York looks pretty blah, but Bobby Brink might still be good
2020: Too soon to tell
2021: Too soon to tell
2022: Cutter Gauthier pulls a Lindros
2023: Michkov may very well never leave Russia at this point

Good for Gauthier to escape that team. Briere is in over his head, and Torts would have dragged him.

Edited January 10, 2024 by Troy McClure

[88Kaner 33]

47 minutes ago, Troy McClure said:

The Philly draft history since Couturier in 2011 is kinda tragic...

2012: Laughton not a bad choice, but only ends up a 3rd liner. They do manage to get Ghostbear in the 3rd, but turns out he can't play D.
2013: Total waste
2014: Sanheim turns out to be a big let down
2015: Provorov is sorta a disappoint, but Konecny turns into a poors mans 1st liner!
2016: Rubstov is a total waste
2017: Nolan Patrick at #2 overall has his career destroyed by injury
2018: Farabee still might turn out to be a 2nd liner one day...
2019: Cam York looks pretty blah, but Bobby Brink might still be good
2020: Too soon to tell
2021: Too soon to tell
2022: Cutter Gauthier pulls a Lindros
2023: Michkov may very well never leave Russia at this point

Good for Gauthier to escape that team. Briere is in over his head, and Torts would have dragged him.

Torts was happy when he met Cutter now he doesn't know the kid LMAO man what a sad organization. Haven't won a cup for what 50 years now? They are the expansion leafs

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

5 hours ago, 88Kaner said:

Torts was happy when he met Cutter now he doesn't know the kid LMAO man what a sad organization. Haven't won a cup for what 50 years now? They are the expansion leafs

theyre highly regarded

[Motor City Mullets 313]

13 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

The Philly draft history since Couturier in 2011 is kinda tragic...

2012: Laughton not a bad choice, but only ends up a 3rd liner. They do manage to get Ghostbear in the 3rd, but turns out he can't play D.
2013: Total waste
2014: Sanheim turns out to be a big let down
2015: Provorov is sorta a disappoint, but Konecny turns into a poors mans 1st liner!
2016: Rubstov is a total waste
2017: Nolan Patrick at #2 overall has his career destroyed by injury
2018: Farabee still might turn out to be a 2nd liner one day...
2019: Cam York looks pretty blah, but Bobby Brink might still be good
2020: Too soon to tell
2021: Too soon to tell
2022: Cutter Gauthier pulls a Lindros
2023: Michkov may very well never leave Russia at this point

Good for Gauthier to escape that team. Briere is in over his head, and Torts would have dragged him.

Almost as bad as the Holland era in Detroit...

[kipwinger 8,762]

17 hours ago, Troy McClure said:

The Philly draft history since Couturier in 2011 is kinda tragic...

2012: Laughton not a bad choice, but only ends up a 3rd liner. They do manage to get Ghostbear in the 3rd, but turns out he can't play D.
2013: Total waste
2014: Sanheim turns out to be a big let down
2015: Provorov is sorta a disappoint, but Konecny turns into a poors mans 1st liner!
2016: Rubstov is a total waste
2017: Nolan Patrick at #2 overall has his career destroyed by injury
2018: Farabee still might turn out to be a 2nd liner one day...
2019: Cam York looks pretty blah, but Bobby Brink might still be good
2020: Too soon to tell
2021: Too soon to tell
2022: Cutter Gauthier pulls a Lindros
2023: Michkov may very well never leave Russia at this point

Good for Gauthier to escape that team. Briere is in over his head, and Torts would have dragged him.

I'd quibble with your characterization of some of these, and for others I think they got as much as could be expected out of the draft position. The only one I think is egregiously bad is the Nolan Patrick pick. His career was sidelined by concussions in juniors and his professional ceiling was in doubt before he was ever drafted. A number of people around here (including myself) had him on their "do not draft" lists that year. They got caught up in the hype just like so many other teams that seem to believe that if the Canadian media starts talking about a kid when he's 15 years old he's bound to be a superstar.

[mackel 766]

51 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I'd quibble with your characterization of some of these, and for others I think they got as much as could be expected out of the draft position. The only one I think is egregiously bad is the Nolan Patrick pick. His career was sidelined by concussions in juniors and his professional ceiling was in doubt before he was ever drafted. A number of people around here (including myself) had him on their "do not draft" lists that year. They got caught up in the hype just like so many other teams that seem to believe that if the Canadian media starts talking about a kid when he's 15 years old he's bound to be a superstar.

Kinda like Kenny drafting a certain Czech in free fall based on hype.

[kipwinger 8,762]

1 hour ago, mackel said:

Kinda like Kenny drafting a certain Czech in free fall based on hype.

Two in the same draft actually. Joe Veleno was supposed to go about 15(ish) spots higher than he actual did in the same draft.

[mackel 766]

1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

Two in the same draft actually. Joe Veleno was supposed to go about 15(ish) spots higher than he actual did in the same draft.

Atleast Joe is an actual NHL caliber player.

KHL, DEL, Extra Liga incoming for he who shall not be names.

[kipwinger 8,762]

20 minutes ago, mackel said:

Atleast Joe is an actual NHL caliber player.

KHL, DEL, Extra Liga incoming for he who shall not be names.

Oh yeah? Last I heard he was "betting on himself". How's that going for him?

[LeftWinger 5,150]

4 hours ago, mackel said:

Kinda like Kenny drafting a certain Czech in free fall based on hype.

Meanwhile, Norris Hughes....

[Axl Foley 334]

4 hours ago, mackel said:

Kinda like Kenny drafting a certain Czech in free fall based on hype.

Hudler?

[mackel 766]

51 minutes ago, Axl Foley said:

Hudler?

Stop fishing

[LeftWinger 5,150]

Bold Prediction.

Jakob Chychrun will a Detroit Red Wing come TDL. It might cost Berggren though. 

[Axl Foley 334]

6 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Bold Prediction.

Jakob Chychrun will a Detroit Red Wing come TDL. It might cost Berggren though. 

No. Seider, Walman, Chiarot, Holl, Maatta, Petry and Edvinsson means no room.

[kipwinger 8,762]

I'm genuinely concerned that we'll make a trade and screw up the team chemistry that we're building right now. If we're still playing like this heading into the deadline I'd really only like to see an addition in goal (just to shore things up alongside Lyon, not necessarily replace him as starter), or a top six winger that plays fast and tenaciously, or maybe a depth RHD if one is available. But probably not all three.

Our boys have bought into Lalonde's defensive structure and we're seeing great results. We've been beating the sh*t out of top teams for a month. I REALLY don't wanna change things too much.

Like, if we add John Gibson and Jake Guentzel we might legitimately win a Cup if we keep playing like this.

 

Edited January 28, 2024 by kipwinger

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

2 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I'm genuinely concerned that we'll make a trade and screw up the team chemistry that we're building right now. If we're still playing like this heading into the deadline I'd really only like to see an addition in goal (just to shore things up alongside Lyon, not necessarily replace him as starter), or a top six winger that plays fast and tenaciously, or maybe a depth RHD if one is available. But probably not all three.

Our boys have bought into Lalonde's defensive structure and we're seeing great results. We've been beating the sh*t out of top teams for a month. I REALLY don't wanna change things too much.

Like, if we add John Gibson and Jake Guentzel we might legitimately win a Cup if we keep playing like this.

 

Going to be hard to dump Chia and Gost, but that's what needs to happen.

[stephen-gregory-yzerman 142]

2 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Going to be hard to dump Chia and Gost, but that's what needs to happen.

Im all for trading Gost and bringing up Edvinsson but thats a trade that brings back an asset not a dump. You dont dump Chiarot if you wanna go on a playoff run.

[Axl Foley 334]

9 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Going to be hard to dump Chia and Gost, but that's what needs to happen.

Ghost would be EASY to trade. But it aint happening.

12 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I'm genuinely concerned that we'll make a trade and screw up the team chemistry that we're building right now. If we're still playing like this heading into the deadline I'd really only like to see an addition in goal (just to shore things up alongside Lyon, not necessarily replace him as starter), or a top six winger that plays fast and tenaciously, or maybe a depth RHD if one is available. But probably not all three.

Our boys have bought into Lalonde's defensive structure and we're seeing great results. We've been beating the sh*t out of top teams for a month. I REALLY don't wanna change things too much.

Like, if we add John Gibson and Jake Guentzel we might legitimately win a Cup if we keep playing like this.

 

Saw somewhere today that if the playoffs started today, we would be playing Boston. Gotta say that matchup wouldn't scare me. It would be a good series. 6 or 7 games.

[kipwinger 8,762]

1 hour ago, Axl Foley said:

Ghost would be EASY to trade. But it aint happening.

Saw somewhere today that if the playoffs started today, we would be playing Boston. Gotta say that matchup wouldn't scare me. It would be a good series. 6 or 7 games.

I agree. We have been as good as them or better since the new year.

[Dabura 12,232]

12 hours ago, kipwinger said:

I'm genuinely concerned that we'll make a trade and screw up the team chemistry that we're building right now. If we're still playing like this heading into the deadline I'd really only like to see an addition in goal (just to shore things up alongside Lyon, not necessarily replace him as starter), or a top six winger that plays fast and tenaciously, or maybe a depth RHD if one is available. But probably not all three.

Our boys have bought into Lalonde's defensive structure and we're seeing great results. We've been beating the sh*t out of top teams for a month. I REALLY don't wanna change things too much.

Like, if we add John Gibson and Jake Guentzel we might legitimately win a Cup if we keep playing like this.

Yeah, this is pretty much where I'm at. And I feel like the trade target pool is incredibly underwhelming.

I look at our forward group. When Kane draws back in and Kostin sits, who is it we're supposed to upgrade? Where's the weak link? I like Elias Lindholm and Sean Monahan, but I'm not sure either of them is better than Fabbri. How much do we want to pay (in the way of assets) for "Could be better than Fabbri, I guess...?"

Our defense is...suboptimal. But we have an internal upgrade option in Edvinsson. (SPOILERS: The ask for Hanifin and Chychrun is gonna be too steep.)

So I dunno. We've got a good thing going. If Lyon stays stellar, we make the playoffs.

[Axl Foley 334]

8 hours ago, Dabura said:

Yeah, this is pretty much where I'm at. And I feel like the trade target pool is incredibly underwhelming.

I look at our forward group. When Kane draws back in and Kostin sits, who is it we're supposed to upgrade? Where's the weak link? I like Elias Lindholm and Sean Monahan, but I'm not sure either of them is better than Fabbri. How much do we want to pay (in the way of assets) for "Could be better than Fabbri, I guess...?"

Our defense is...suboptimal. But we have an internal upgrade option in Edvinsson. (SPOILERS: The ask for Hanifin and Chychrun is gonna be too steep.)

So I dunno. We've got a good thing going. If Lyon stays stellar, we make the playoffs.

Lindholm would be an excellent add only of he gets re-signed. I would be willing to give up the assets necessary to grab a guy who can finally fill that 2C spot until someone else develops and takes it.

[Motor City Mullets 313]

Unless it's a move that'll substantially improve this team I don't believe Yzerman will do anything...Best not to mess with the team chemistry.

[Troy McClure 347]

32 minutes ago, Motor City Mullets said:

Unless it's a move that'll substantially improve this team I don't believe Yzerman will do anything...Best not to mess with the team chemistry.

Now you know SY is gonna do something big