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#2302640 The truth of our decline.

Posted by F.Michael on 22 May 2012 - 03:08 PM

If only more Wings fans could be like you.

You can toss me in with Richdg, and centcougar07...Many here are in for a rude awakening.

#2301725 Chances of landing Parise?

Posted by F.Michael on 17 May 2012 - 12:50 AM

The thing is he will get offered insanely high contracts by teams that need to do so. And as you said yourself, we're not the only contenders. In 2-3 years we might not even be that if Holland can't flip the age factor while keeping the talent and production relatively linear. Which would be impressive and awe inspiring if you ask me. It also doesn't help that we haven't done much of anything in the playoffs recently despite getting there against beatable teams. I would have more confidence if I thought Detroit was still THE place to be when it came to FA's. I think they look now and see a team declining unfortunately.


#2299732 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by F.Michael on 07 May 2012 - 01:37 AM

Also, no way Parise and Suter command that much in free agency.


Did anyone predict Ericsson's payday last summer?

#2299731 The new guys thoughts.....

Posted by F.Michael on 07 May 2012 - 01:30 AM

Wow - looks like someone else shares my views on the future of the Red Wings.

#2299100 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by F.Michael on 04 May 2012 - 12:11 AM

You're really struggling with the concept of term. Players are willing to take smaller cap hit contracts that are front-loaded and long term. I'm surprised this is news to you...

Well - the reality is that these 6 plus year front-loaded deals may become extinct with the next CBA - however the last time I checked July 1st comes before September 15th so there may be some "wiggle room", and grandfather clauses.

My concern is that both Suter, and Parise see Detroit as a team in decline, and opt for a team with whom they feel has a greater number of players in their prime, and not in their twilight.

#2298900 What's REALLY going to happen this off-season?

Posted by F.Michael on 03 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

No, you aren't expecting anything this summer based on what you posted. And that right there is silly.

Silly?..How so?

#2298886 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by F.Michael on 03 May 2012 - 08:53 AM

Adding one single top 6 forward is not suddenly going to make us a cup team. With all do respect, that's just absurd.

I'm not pessimistic, I'm realistic. It's not like I don't want the Wings to win now but the reality is this: Declining on ice product/aging core of players + average prospect pool = time to rebuild soon. That's how it works in every pro sport. At least some variation of it.

Agreed - although I'm both a pessimist, and a realist :lol:

One player isn't gonna add that much - it'll take a handful IMO...There's not many players under the age of 25 on this roster, or in GR that'll carry this team the way Nick/Dats/Hank has; those 3 are what we have left of any semblance of what was once a "powerhouse" in the NHL, and 2 of those 3 aren't what they were just a few years ago.

At the time I was pleased when Holland inked Bert for 2 more seasons; now after further review it wasn't such a great move - unless of course ya like his antics of taking his toys away from those nasty Preds...What alot of good that did.

#2298793 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by F.Michael on 02 May 2012 - 07:04 PM

Yeah I can't possibly see him settling for so little. Especially because your opinion and my opinion of the roster are different. You see a killer roster, a see a roster that will have to claw to make the playoffs next year let alone contend for a cup. We just have too many old players and a lack of stellar NHL ready prospects with which to replace them like we did last time around. We still have a couple years of possible contention but in 2-3 years we're going to drop out of contention and we're going to have to rebuild through the draft.


I gotta be honest here...The Wings have been on a steady decline these past few years...UFA's will take notice, and for some - the grass may look alot greener elsewhere.

#2298791 What's REALLY going to happen this off-season?

Posted by F.Michael on 02 May 2012 - 06:48 PM

Man, it must suck to be so incredibly wrong. :rolleyes:


I agree with blueadams; I'm not expecting much this summer..Holland will sign Lids for 1 more year, and ink Hudler to a 3 year deal.

#2298784 What's REALLY going to happen this off-season?

Posted by F.Michael on 02 May 2012 - 06:24 PM

Don't call me a psychic....but I think we're giong to end up seeing something very close this.

Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Evander Kane ($5.000m)
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Jordan Staal ($4.000m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Martin Hanzal ($3.100m) / Dustin Brown ($3.175m)
Travis Moen ($1.500m) / Paul Gaustad ($2.300m) / Cal Clutterbuck ($1.400m)
Shea Weber ($7.500m) / Oliver E.-Larsson ($1.750m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Anders Lindback ($0.715m)

Just a few simple trades/signings/offer sheet and we'll have a team that is built to get out of the first round.


Thanks - I needed a good laugh.

#2292115 Hossa Smoked

Posted by F.Michael on 18 April 2012 - 10:01 AM

Its starting to be embarrasing to tell people in a hockey fan. first the busch league stuff in NYR/OTT series, then shaw elbowing smith, weber on zetterberg, and now this.

at least the guys in the PIT/Philly series seem to be just fighting and commiting only minor, questionable hits.

this other s*** is garbage.

Not sure if I'm getting this right, but do you mean that you're embarassed to tell others that you're a hockey fan?

If that's the case - why on earth would you be embarassed?..Other than the Red Wings being on the verge of elimination - this playoffs has been pretty damn great!..The ratings are hitting all time highs.

So there's been some head hunting, and dirty play?..All the more to enjoy since it means new rivalries will be created with animosity extending beyond this season into the next (that is if there's a 2012/2013 season).

I'm no fan of seeing players getting injured, but unfortunately this is outta our hands as fans...The NHL created this problem themselves when they started to crack down on fighting, and initiated the instigator penalty in efforts to clean up the game, and bring in a larger American audience...Now we've been seeing what happens when the players don't police themselves, and the league tries - inconsistencies at their finest.

If anything - I'd be embarassed to say I was a fan of the NBA; so many things wrong with that league I don't know where to begin.

I'm damn proud to be a fan of hockey, and the NHL - by far the best game, and best league on the planet...If anyone says anything to me about it - I'll just pull their shirt over their head, and go to town on'em ;)

#2292011 Time to start looking for a new coaching staff

Posted by F.Michael on 18 April 2012 - 07:02 AM

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Oh God no!..Keep that moron away from the Wings!
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#2292008 Time to start looking for a new coaching staff

Posted by F.Michael on 18 April 2012 - 06:56 AM

What crap are you talking here? Are you inventing a conspiracy for Bettman that has him having NA player target skilled european players and taking them out of the game with headshots? Give me a break.

North American play off hockey is a rough tough sport.... if a player can't handle the heat, be he Euro, Chinese or whatever, then he should go play ringette or patty-a-cake or something!

The dirty s*** needs to be penalized, and Shanny is doing just that, but it will never be completely removed because of the speed, intensity and emotion in the game.

...and lets be brutally honest...Some of the cheap shots/rough play creates a new level of hatred that carriers over for years to come, and IMHO it's some of the most intense/exciting hockey ever...The current Flyers/Pens series, and Red Wings/Avalanche of yesteryear is some of the best stuff we'll ever see.

Fighters are losing their role in the game across the league, it's not just Detroit. Hard to justify a roster spot for a guy who doesn't bring much of anything else to the table especially when the other teams aren't carrying pure fighters either. They just need some guys that are hungry. I'd settle for a hint of chippiness at this point. I really don't give a s*** about fighting one way or the other, I just want guys who are willing to do whatever it takes to win so much so that they sometimes do something stupid.

I'df****** kill to have Shea Weber on our side smashing some other team's star's head into the glass at the end of a game that's clearly over in your favor. I want a team that gets fined because they want it so bad that they make some stupid mistakes like that. Where's the tenacity on this team? It's absolutely non-existent.

I want guys who can play the game, AND fight when it's needed...There's been quite a few guys via the draft, and free agency that Holland/Nill pass by.

#2292001 Too many damn pretty boys

Posted by F.Michael on 18 April 2012 - 06:36 AM

newfy you're a brave man for starting this particular topic so soon, but as usual you're spot on with your point...Too bad Holland wants his Euro figure skating club on the ice.

#2291997 Will Detroit win this series?

Posted by F.Michael on 18 April 2012 - 06:30 AM

I've said it long before the playoffs began...This team won't make it outta the 1st round.