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#2540627 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 October 2014 - 12:31 PM

My brother was perma banned 2 years ago because he told a mod he was "being a nazi", because he made a post about how refs were a holes and used it to vent his frustrations about something that happened in game that the mod didn't agree with.  He contacted matt about this and said it was personal and matt simply said "I trust my mods, sorry".

 

i can't speak to that specific incident but in my time as a mod here, it takes a whole lot more than that to get permabanned.  That may have been the straw that broke the camels back.  

 

Typically people are pissed after they've been warned or had a post deleted and will react in anger so I try to let it slide.  But then after that initial reaction subsides I can usually have a civil discussion with them about what happened.  Not always, unfortunately, but usually.

 

It also brings up another point to touch on from the perspective of a moderator. I can say that out of all the warnings and suspensions I've given, probably 90% of the people who PM me about their suspension say it's because I have some personal problem with them.  They've never been right.  Sure there's been a couple members I found somewhat irritating, but probably not nearly as many as you think given how long I've been doing this and the number of people here.  And when an incident did arise with those people, I defer to other moderators about any potential incident, because I don't want any personal irritation to influence my moderating.  

 

And to be clear, that irritation is never because someone has an unpopular opinion.  If your posts are thoughtful, civil, passionate about hockey, even if unpopular, I'm probably a fan of your work. 

 

The moderators all check in with one another about people who have become a problem and discuss the issues.  When someone is warned or suspended, it leaves a record and an explanation that all the other moderators can look at.  So no one is going rogue, banning members willy nilly.   We're certainly not perfect, but we do try to maintain a level of consistency and do a good job for Matt. 

 

Ultimately it's like officiating.  If everyone is a little irritated with us on any side of an issue, we probably handled it okay.  :D




#2540597 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 14 October 2014 - 03:19 AM

All in all, considering how few complain about the moderation on this site in comparison to how many lacked the need to even open this thread, I think it's safe to say that things are run pretty fair. It's impossible to please every member of every community on the internet. There are rules, and rules are left to interpretation. People like myself and the other moderation staff here are constantly faced with decisions to determine whether or not something is out of line or not, in violation of the site rules, and feel the need to edit or censor some of the posts here. Even beyond that, predicting when a comment or a thread is headed in a vicious direction before it even reaches that point in efforts to prevent an awful scenario. No site in the history of the existence of the internet has a community 100% in agreement that things are run entirely in perfection, there will always be conflicts, disagreements, and arguments about how forums are run, moderated, and censored. There will always be members that attempt to push the limits and aggressively debate the result when they are told they have gone too far.

 

We are one community of many, are in consistent communication with each other to improve, fine tune, and moderate ourselves on the job we are doing on maintaining a successful discussion forum that appeals to the masses and remains friendly and accessible to hockey fans of all ages. This is one of the best online sports fan sites online for a reason, and there are other options out there if you are displeased with how it is run so badly that it's reached a level of intolerance with you.

 

I trust in Matt, and the rest of the moderation team here to fully enforce the site rules and maintain a great community. 




#2540574 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by vladdy16 on 13 October 2014 - 08:22 PM

I can't add a lot to what harold has already said, but I will chime in with sometimes posts are deleted because they're responding to a post that needed to be deleted and to leave it would make no sense.

I deleted a whole page from the Howard thread.  I knew that thread was going to be trouble the minute it was started, but did what I could to keep it alive because it had the potential to be a good discussion.  I will guarantee that I personally have never deleted a post simply because I disagreed with the opinion stated therein.  If I delete a post, more often than not it's because it contains a personal attack, or more recently contains information Matt would prefer not be available on LGW for legal reasons.  Personally I would rather refute an opinion than delete it.  If we all thought the same way, it would make for poor discussion.

Another suggestion I'd like to make is to PLEASE PM a mod if you have any questions or concerns - don't post in GD threads.  It will be deleted because it's off topic (not the place for those types of conversations), not because we're power-hungry.  Seriously, cleaning up off topic or personal attack posts is not in my top ten ways to spend an evening.




#2540545 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 October 2014 - 06:08 PM

I'm not going to continue egging this on, but I've now had several posts deleted and one thread locked and I know I was not being offensive to anyone, or rude, or anything like that (well, except the one, ok so one out of several).   So if those are the kinds of threads that will get blocked or banned or whatever, well, I can only speak for myself then and say it's shame.  Mods feel they have a job to do, I won't make it any harder for them.  I just won't continue to post.  Thanks for clarifying your positions.

 

I would just ask that if a post of yours is deleted or a thread is locked and you want to know why, please PM one of us.  You may not like the answer but it can at least provide you with an explanation.

 

And to be clear, I'm not kidding when I say PM Matt if you have a problem with the moderating or a suggestion.  He's a busy guy and may not get back to you right away so it's probably best to start with a moderator, but he obviously wants this site to be as successful and popular as it can be, and is open to suggestions. 


Look I've had countless posts just disappear on me. Seriously I've lost track, it's that many. And from what I've read other posters have had similar issues.

 

It isn't an isolated issue, it happens all the time.

 

And again from other posters as well as my own experience, other forums aren't like this at all. It just doesn't happen. Except here.

 

As I said above, I suggest PM'ing one of the mods.  I can't really provide an explanation because I don't know what you're referring to. 

 

I only spend time on a small handful of forums, but honestly the ones I go to are exactly like this or more strict.  




#2540538 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by Echolalia on 13 October 2014 - 05:54 PM

I personally don't see much of a problem with the moderation. In terms of the thread that was locked in GDT, the vast majority of us saw where that thread was headed just based on the OP. People commented, gave their opinions, things started going sour, and the mods still kept the thread alive, based on what small chance that it had of actually succeeding. This warning came amidst a sespool of attacks that had nothing to do with the topic at hand. After the warning, instead of trying to get the thread back on topic, the subject abruptly changes to discussing how terrible the moderation is.... In a Jimmy Howard thread (that in actuality was a Jimmy Howard bashing thread). I really don't see why people are suprised or angry that that particular thread was closed.
As for the particular post of the guy eating popcorn (or whatever it was) that was an immediate response to the initial warning, I probably personally wouldn't have deleted it, but I'm also not a mod that has to deal with cleaning up our garbage every day, so I might be a little naive. But even going off of basic thread etiquette that post was further detailing and already fragile thread. That kind of stuff had better chance of staying alive in a healthier thread, not one where the mods are already pissed off.


#2536213 Official $25 BUY-IN Fantasy Hockey League Sign-Up is CLOSED

Posted by Son of a Wing on 15 September 2014 - 12:44 AM

I highly recommend Matt's LGW Fantasy buy-in league.

I had an absolute blast in my first year last year and happened to claim my first championship.

I look forward to defending it to any LGWers looking to challenge. Hope to see some of you there!


#2532847 'District Detroit': Red Wings' New Arena Details Released

Posted by Seraph on 22 July 2014 - 11:32 PM

I'm moving down in August. Is that Iodent you're in?


I'm in Kales. Great area to live. Great restaurants and events. Wonderful biking city. My buddies and I walk next door and scalp Tigers tickets for cheap halfway through games. Sure, there are a bunch of empty buildings around, and that is by no means a great thing, but I feel the people here embrace it as the city's aesthetic and character. It's part of the whole package.

I think the plans for construction will really attract further life down here once people realize how convenient and fun the area around the statiums is.


#2509849 Gus & Tatar almost traded to Calgary per McKenzie

Posted by dirtydangles on 15 April 2014 - 05:01 PM

If this is true - which it may not be - it shows how little Ken Holland really knows/believes in his prospects. Jarnkrok is killing it over in NSH and these two are playing amazing in Detroit. You can't just go offering up young players as trade bait before you see what they can do in the NHL - its stupid. If Jarnkrok had put up 9 points in 12 games in Detroit prior to the trade his value would have been much higher and he would be valued similar to Sheahan currently. Bottom line - give prospects a legitimate NHL chance to solidify their value before you go and ship them off.




#2470429 Winter Classic Gigapixel

Posted by MTU_Huskies963 on 03 January 2014 - 08:37 PM

This is the link for the giga pixel http://gigapixel.pan...erclassic/2014/

They are currently waiting for approval, once they have it you will be able to access that link. The company that did the photo is blakeway panoramas and can be followed on twitter @panoramascom


#2470342 WinterFest/ Winter classic Final thoughts

Posted by vladdy16 on 03 January 2014 - 10:58 AM

Does anyone do better justice to a fedora?

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#2470314 WinterFest/ Winter classic Final thoughts

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 03 January 2014 - 06:59 AM

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#2470809 January Schedule Wallpaper Now Available!

Posted by dirtydangles on 05 January 2014 - 12:30 AM

Thanks Matt! For all IOS7 users on iPhone 4/4s if you use the iPhone 5/5s wallpaper you can make everything fit with the clock you just lose the octopus on the bottom. Such awesome lock screens - I always get compliments on them.




#2466018 No Suspension for Quincey's Hit on Getzlaf

Posted by Shaman on 18 December 2013 - 04:58 PM

More of a punishment to have to keep Quincey in the lineup than to suspend him.




#2436751 9/16 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 4 at Penguins 1

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 15 September 2013 - 07:19 PM

Tonight's Matchup

 

 

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Location

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Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Abdelkader

Cleary - Andersson - Samuelsson

Tatar - Glendening - Ferraro

Mantha - Jarnkrok - Tootoo

 

DeKeyser - Kindl

Quincey - Smith

Evans - Alqvist

 

Howard

 

 

 

On Deck

 

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As you can tell, this definitely won't be the new GDT format for the season. As usual, I use a simple/old graphic for the pre-season games. 

The real ones will make their debut for the regular season's debut against Buffalo. 

 

Go Wings!! 




#2433489 Paul Bissonnette, hockey player, troll slayer

Posted by Ally on 16 August 2013 - 08:38 PM

Good for him.
It's pathetic that people think that just because someone is famous they have the right to constantly harass them online. This guy didnt send one tweet to biz he sent like 15 in an hour.
I guess it doesn't count as online bullying if the guy is rich though. Good to know.
Don't start something that you can't handle. Well done Paul.