Exactly. It is difficult to learn how to play in this league when the team around you is falling apart and lacks leadership. Look at Edmonton. Loaded with talent, nobody to learn from. Nobody to teach their top players how to play a complete game, etc.
While I don't think Myers is the ideal solution, it isn't a move I'd be unhappy to see. It would make the team better.
Depends on the package. If we lost any of our good young forwards I'd be pissed. That's a lot to give for a guy with as many check marks against him as Myers has.
Smith, prospects, and picks (on the other hand) I'd be fine with.
I like Myers better than Niskanen because Myers has more upside and has the potential to be a #1 D on our team for a long time
Niskanen I think would be a risk as well, I mean one season inflating his cap value by a lot, he could either turn out like O'Reilly or like Clarkson or Nathan Horton
You've obviously not watched a lot of Myers if you think he's got the upside to be a #1. He's big. That's it. He doesn't play defense worth a damn. He's just got a big shot from the point and stands up to the forecheck well.
I do think a lot of that has to do with the Sabres as a whole really. Myers has the tools, I think a fresh start could work wonders for him. Especially to have a vet like 55 to play with and learn from.
Big risk to take for a guy who's never produced any better than Matt Niskanen, plays half the defense, costs 5.5 million a year, and would require a significant package to acquire (per reports).
Why not just spend a little more (maybe) on the guy who does everything better and keep all your trade assets?
I still say no to Myers but that's just me. I would much rather over pay for Niskanen. Better player, slightly higher cap hit, without giving up the assets...
I agree, trading for Myers is a bad idea. He's ALREADY getting over paid, and you'd have to give assets to get him. The very thing people worry about with Niskanen is already a reality with Myers. And even if Niskanen gets over paid (which I don't think he will), you don't lose assets acquiring him.
Myers gets paid (5.5 million) to give you the same offensive potential as Niskanen and none of the defense. But he's big, and everybody knows that NHL GMs go weak in the knees (and soft in the head) if a player is big; regardless of whether he uses that size for any practical advantage or not.
Well there goes that. Seems like a pretty good trade for both sides. Vancouver was trading within the division (typically requiring a larger return) and Kesler only approved limited teams (typically ending in a smaller return).
He's a good player and I'd have loved to have had him in the Winged Wheel. Oh well, on to the next one.
She needed to keep her yap shut and just be glad she's got a free ride at life. Yeah, I'm still a little sour about it.
No doubt! I mean, since he's the one making all the money she probably shouldn't have any say in their join decision making at all. It would probably be best if she could hold off having opinions or even talking as well. Better yet, she should probably just lock herself in a cage in the basement and only be allowed out when Ryan Suter says so. I mean, he makes money and she has "a free ride" so its not unreasonable to expect her to abdicate her say in their future plans for a life of domestic slavery.
I actually know Craig Coxe pretty well and have had the opportunity to chat with him several times about his epic fights with Probert and Kocur. Very cool guy with a lot of good stories.
I've also spoken with Derian Hatcher on a couple of occasions as well. He's quiet and doesn't have much to say. One of my fondest memories was busting his balls the first time I met him by grabbing him a shot and proposing a toast "to skilled european forwards". He looked at me completely seriously and said, "I was a defenseman, not a forward". Had no idea I was screwing with him.
Chicago just spent a little over 2 million combined on Ben Smith and Antti Raanta. That's just over half their available cap space. Unless they move out significant salary I'd say they're out of the Kesler sweepstakes. That leaves only Anaheim unless he's willing to expand his list.
Well he did say in an interview (which I read in one of Malik's diatribes so I'm no willing to go dig it up) that term is "generally" more important to him than salary. Though I'm not suggesting anyone interpret that as Niskanen saying "I'm looking for long term to the EXCLUSION of salary".
Like I said, I'm expecting 5 years at less than 6 mil. In other words, Wisniewski money and term...which he's worth. Obviously he COULD get more elsewhere, but only from a bottom dweller with unlimited cap space. And why would Matt Niskanen walk away from playing with Crosby or Malkin for the rest of his career to play on a worse team less likely to win? This kid's looking to win. I don't think he prices himself out of the market for that reason alone.
Yeah, I see him trading down. Someone they like is going to slide down the chart given how bunched together everyone is after the top five or six picks. I called Kempe a few months ago, and I'm sticking with it. They'll trade back two or three spots, still get their man, and get a 2nd to replace the one lost in the Legwand clusterf***.
Edit: Larkin wouldn't be a bad pick either, and he's a center (Tyler Wright seemed to indicate this would matter). But I'm sticking with Kempe.
Personally I'd take Smith over Niskanen. Smith has more potential IMO, and I think Niskanen has been hyped tremendously because he's the best free agent D man. That's not to say he isn't good. But he's definitely not worth $6 million a year. Dollars aren't everything, but I think Smith has the potential to end up a better D man.
And Kesler is good yes, but wouldn't you rather have both him and Helm? I know I would.
Lol. You're changing your tune. Previously you said we'd be worse off with Kesler and Niskanen than Smith and Helm. I'm not going to argue about Smith's potential, everybody knows how I feel about that. But at the very least it's clear that right now, at their respective levels of development, Smith is not better than Niskanen. At all.
Likewise, I wouldn't argue that it would always be better to have BOTH Kesler and Helm. But that's not what you said. You insinuated that we'd be worse because Helm is one of our best defensive forwards. But we'd be replacing him with one of the best defensive forwards in the league.
You're entitled to your opinion. Obviously. But if we swapped Smith and Helm for Niskanen and Kesler we'd be a better team overnight. And we'd stay a better team for the forseeable future barring some freakish developmental jumps from Smith and Helm that (so far in their careers) they've not shown they were capable of. For instance, let Smith score 20 NHL points in one season before we anoint him the next big puck mover. Niskanen did that and more as a 20 year old rookie.
His points per game are nearly identical to Dustin Brown's, and he brings all the same intangibles, for the same contract. I don't think this is a bad deal at all. It's not a steal for sure, but I think only the Red Wings and Red Wings fans believe each and every contract negotiation should end in the teams' favor.