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#2623893 Franzen back on ice

Posted by kipwinger on 26 August 2015 - 12:54 PM

I didn't see anybody talking about "quality of life" when Yzerman could barely skate (or walk).  I'd imagine that affected his ability to play with his kids, or hell, even get out of bed.  Yet he was gutsy, team first, leader for hanging on long past his prime, even as his contract, production, and presence became increasingly prohibitive.  His best seasons in the latter years were only as good as what Franzen is doing now, mostly for more money. 

#2623884 Franzen back on ice

Posted by kipwinger on 26 August 2015 - 10:35 AM

Ericsson's contract isn't bad.  He's a modern day Brad Stuart.  A top four, stay at home defenseman is going to cost you 4.2 million these days. 


I agree that he's in a little over his head as a top pair defenseman, but that doesn't make his contract bad.  It just means we don't have other options, he's been forced into a role he isn't suited for, and has been exposed a little as a result. 


Edit:  For comparison's sake, Ericsson plays nearly the exact same role, with mostly the same results, for mostly the same money, as guys like Dennis Seidenberg and Willie Mitchell.  Each suffer from many of the same pitfalls and shortcomings as Ericsson does.  None of the three, by the way, should be top pair defensemen. 

#2623880 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 26 August 2015 - 08:45 AM

I know that the general opinion these days is that Zetterberg should play on Datsyuk's wing.  And I'm not even against that really.  Or at least starting the season that way.  But eventually I'd like to see Zetterberg line up next to Richards. 


First, because stylistically I think they'd play well with one another.  Both are supremely slick offensive players who read the game insanely well.  I think they'd give teams fits the way Selanne and Koivu did for Anaheim a couple years ago. 


Secondly, because Tomas Tatar is the best scoring winger we've got.  He already plays well with Datsyuk, and I'd hate to see his ice time reduced because "let's reunite Dats and Z, that worked 8 years ago".  Tatar with Datsyuk and not Helm (Abby) is a legit first line with scoring potential.  A full season on the top line and Tatar will be the first Wing since Franzen and Hossa to score 30+ goals.  Something I don't see Zetterberg doing this year, no matter whose line he's on.

#2623766 Franzen back on ice

Posted by kipwinger on 23 August 2015 - 11:57 AM

That was probably just an accident. Leftwinger, on the other hand, specifically bought a Ford F-150 after seeing Franzens Ram commercial. Because f*** that guy.

#2623682 Franzen back on ice

Posted by kipwinger on 21 August 2015 - 04:55 PM

How many points did franzen score in his last 25-30 game stretch of hockey? I don't remember because he was disappeared. Oh wait, it was 22. 22 points in 33 games. What a bum.

#2623517 Getting bigger.

Posted by kipwinger on 19 August 2015 - 11:45 AM

LOL, power forward...find us a goal of his where he even came close to battling and scoring a dirty goal while being a "beast" in front of the net.  I will give him his scoring props back in the day, but even at his size, he was never a power forward, he was always a finesse scorer from the slot.



I stopped watching after the first four goals, since they were all scored in and around the crease.  So here are four, off the bat. 

#2623502 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 19 August 2015 - 11:11 AM

I'm going to go on record as saying an 8th seed can't win the Cup.  Not "can't" as in a mathematical truth, or a scientific law.  But "can't" in the practical sense of the word.  If you're betting on the NHL playoffs, and you're regularly betting on the 8th seed, you are stupid.  They aren't going to win.  They did once, and so dummies will repeat "get into the playoffs and anything can happen", but the truth is that it can't...or at least won't.  The fact that it happened in the extremest of minority times proves that it's possible, but it's so improbable that it might as well be a closed topic. 


It's like when the Red Sox came back from three games down against the Yankees, and then went on to win the World Series.  Sure, they did it.  It's possible.  But it's so improbable as to be almost entirely useless as any sort of example. 


Every mention of the 2012 Kings makes me cringe because people constantly bring it up as if it's indicative of something.  When I used to teach college freshmen they did a similar thing all the time.  If I were to say, "African American's overwhelmingly vote Democrat" you can bet your ass some kid would raise his hand and say "well, my uncle Ricky is black and he's a Republican".  And it was everything I could do to not scream in his/her face "NOBODY GIVES A s*** AND IT DOESN'T MATTER!". 

#2623484 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 19 August 2015 - 10:21 AM

He won head to head against Stamkos and out produced him Babs matched him up against Stamkos line and he did a great job, Tyler Johnson scoring all those goals was just showcasing our s***ty defense.. Pav played like a number one center all of last year and idk how or why you think he's done, we won't know if he's still a number one center until he fully recovers from that ankle.


You keep saying Pav shut down Stamkos, but read the article I linked.  Cooper was actively targeting Datsyuk's line with his most potent offensive line.  It's right there in the article.  Babcock even acknowledged it.  You're being fairly revisionist here.  Pav only matched up against Stamkos when we played at home, and that's because Babs' intentionally put Glendening out against Johnson.  On the road (i.e. the majority of the games), he was matched up against Johnson, and didn't really fair that well. 


As far as Pav being a number one center, I don't disagree.  Of course he is, we don't have anyone better.  But your first and second line centers are SUPER important to winning a cup, and I don't believe that a 37 year old center with increasingly problematic injuries, is going to win a Cup for us.  Especially given the fact that he's coming off a pretty serious ankle surgery. 

#2623468 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 19 August 2015 - 09:47 AM

For now, I think we're too weak down the middle to be a real contender.  I'm reluctant to put too much stock in the future of the team until we see how the young centers turn out.  You don't build around wingers, so the fact that Tatar, Nyquist, and maybe Pulkkinen, Jurco, or Mantha are going to be productive wingers is nice, but not sufficient. 


Like it or not, Pav's done, Zetterberg's done, Richards is done.  Sure they'll be productive, and in the right roles they'll be really valuable, but they'll never be able to win head to head battles against other top talent.  So we really need Sheahan to develop into a 50+ point center, for Larkin to come along quickly, and hopefully for Athanasiou to be better than billed. 


I think we'll make the playoffs again.  I think we might win a round or two.  But I don't think we'll be Cup competitive until the young centers prove they can take over the offense and allow the old guys to move into supplementary roles. 

#2623409 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 18 August 2015 - 12:22 PM

Another thing I'd like to see for the 15-16 season?  The Griffins getting rid of these lame ass black uniforms they just unveiled.  Can we all please agree to stop putting black in everything?



#2623398 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 August 2015 - 11:53 AM

I know this thread is all relative, but Pulk as a 14th forward? He is sure to reach his potential there...

may as well just leave him off the roster as one of the "trades." Rather than waste him there.


Pulkkinen is in competition with Zetterberg, Nyquist, and Tatar for a top 9 scoring winger spot.  If he can't beat any of them out, then he doesn't have a spot on my team because he's not suited for any other role.  Similarly, if Helm wants back onto a scoring line he needs to out perform Abby, Franzen, Jurco.  Same with Ferraro for a position on the fourth line wing. 


It's about identifying roles, and creating competition for those roles.  Pulkkinen can't do anything other than be a scoring forward on a scoring line, and currently he's not better than any of the guys we already have doing that.  If he gets an opportunity and runs with it, good for him.  But he isn't gifted a roster spot based on "potential" in my book. 

#2623392 What's your roster lines ?

Posted by kipwinger on 18 August 2015 - 11:37 AM















#2623385 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 18 August 2015 - 10:32 AM

Taken at today's optional skate.  Woohoo! 



#2623347 Worst Free Agent Signings Ever

Posted by kipwinger on 17 August 2015 - 05:56 PM

Depietro, Redden, Horton, Clowe. All terrible.

#2623138 Lou Lamoriello new GM of the Leafs

Posted by kipwinger on 14 August 2015 - 10:39 AM