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#2606746 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by kipwinger on 08 May 2015 - 12:57 PM

Fair enough. I tend to agree with your sentiment. But it's still May and I'm still pissed about the outcome of our series. That's why I go with hate toward him right now. That and I think he's a punk. But yes, that grit or toughness or "compete level" (a term I think is such a lame cliche) that Johnson has is something I'd like to have seen from Gus or Tatar. Hell, if either of them had shown a little of that the Wings would've finished the series in game 5.


I don't think the difference between Johnson and Tatar/Nyquist was "toughness, grit, or compete level".  I think, to a large extent, it was because Tyler Johnson was on the ice a lot more than Nyquist and Tatar were.  He averaged 18:51 in ice time per game, while Tatar and Nyquist were 15:56 and 15:50 respectively. 


Also, our powerplay wasn't very good and that affected their production totals as well. 

#2606584 DRW Free Agents / Salary Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 07 May 2015 - 02:42 PM


I don't see what you see.  Anytime Helm and Abby are playing in the top 6 you can't call this a skill roster.


Tats showed up for 1-2 games in the playoffs playing against the other teams 3rd/4th line.  Nyquist mostly disappeared, Jurco had a horrible year, and Pulkkinen didn't really translate to the NHL even with all the power play time he was given.  Weiss is in the coaches dog house so I won't touch that one.  He made some mistakes and Babs never let him have a chance to recover.


I don't see how playing people who can't get it done against 3rd and 4th lines in the top 6 is going to make things better.


I know you don't.  My point, is that part of the problem is that the Red Wings are trying to make a team full of guys drafted on skill into a team full of blue collar "hard working types".  Rather than finding a coach, or playing a system, which compliments and develops their predominant skillset. 


This team has a much higher likelihood of success if Tatar, Nyquist, Pulkkinen, and Jurco reach their ceilings than if Glendening, Helm, Abby, Ferraro, or Miller do.  Why?  Because the ceiling is higher. Babs is excellent at developing grinders and physical guys.  He's not been as good at developing skill players.


The answer shouldn't be "change the whole roster to fit Mike Babcock's system", the answer should be "find a coach that can maximize the potential of this roster". 


You're putting the cart before the horse.  Babcock's system would be lethal in Winnepeg or Columbus but the roster on those teams is conducive to his style.  John Cooper, Alain Vigneault, or Peter Laviolette's systems would be better for the current Wings.  So, maybe we should find someone like that eh?

#2606582 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by kipwinger on 07 May 2015 - 02:31 PM

Here's the thing I think about as a fan.  Instead of being pissed off that Tyler Johnson is good, or "hating him" because he looks like a maidmer (like a mermaid, but with a fish top-half), I want to know why he's playing so well.  I mean, he's not bigger, faster, or more skilled than Gustav Nyquist or Tomas Tatar.  He wasn't noticeably better than them during the regular season.  He's not fundamentally more clutch.  He doesn't have a better draft pedigree, or winning tradition. In fact, our own Griffins outshone him in the Calder Cup. 


So why is Tyler Johnson carrying his team in the the Conference finals, while our young guys fell flat?  Figuring out the answer to that should be the organization's biggest priority, and it's certainly what interests me as a fan of the team. 

#2606562 Meanwhile in sweden...

Posted by kipwinger on 07 May 2015 - 12:04 PM

What if the ads on the jerseys were Watermelon Laffy Taffy ads? What would you all do then, huh?


With seeds or without?

#2606545 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 07 May 2015 - 11:34 AM

Is there any way that we can bring Tom Brady on board in some capacity?


No there's a guy who'll do what it takes to win. 

#2606497 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 07 May 2015 - 08:56 AM


Really haha I think its one of the best cellys out there. Its emotion and character. Two things our team has been lacking for years


Only other guy who gives a hoot when he scores is Tatar


Yeah, I don't know what it is about the knee slide.  I really don't.  And it's not even like I have a problem with cellys either.  I love how pumped Tatar gets.  And if I think about it rationally, I lighten up about the knee slide after a minute too.  But when I see it happen in real time, my gut reaction is always a combination of irritation and loathing. 

#2606488 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 07 May 2015 - 08:21 AM

Ugh, I don't know why I have such an aversion to guys sliding across the ice on their knees.  I mean, I realize it's an important game, and you just scored a hat trick, and that tons of guys have done way worse and all.  But I still get this overwhelming urge to throw a battery at his head when I see him do it. 

#2606437 At What Point Does Holland Deserve Blame?

Posted by kipwinger on 06 May 2015 - 10:03 PM



She disagrees.  





She looks like a mannequin. 

#2606222 Players who might be available due to teams cap issues

Posted by kipwinger on 05 May 2015 - 09:11 PM

I'm just saying if not liking a player for his on-ice antics is the sole reason for not wanting him, we've had players who have done plenty of dirty s*** in the past on the team. 


Well I certainly don't disagree with that.  But I think this is slightly different.  He's overpayed, overvalued, and underproducing.  No need to acquire a guy like that just because he's "real big" and "real tough".  He's a bad player and his own team is dying to get rid of the guy.  That should tell you something. 

#2606207 Players who might be available due to teams cap issues

Posted by kipwinger on 05 May 2015 - 08:51 PM



Speaking of big guys who are totally awesome, and could help the Wings; have you heard of this guy Brian McGratton?  He's an AHLer in Calgary's organization and is just the kind of power forward that Detroit needs to A) keep the rats at bay, B) deter cheap shots against our stars, and C) create space for Dats and Zetterberg. 


Just a thought.  Ya know, because he's the biggest Laffy Taffy of them all.

#2606203 Players who might be available due to teams cap issues

Posted by kipwinger on 05 May 2015 - 08:36 PM

He's seemed less effective the last few times I watched Boston too.
And how many pts did he put up this past year?
He's like watermelon laffy taffy, that no longer has the candy seeds.
He used to be a lot better


He's a watermelon Laffy Taffy that you stretched out to three times the size of all the other Laffy Taffies (i.e. he's better because he's bigger).  Get with the times dude.  Big is good.  Small is bad.  It's science. 

#2606178 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by kipwinger on 05 May 2015 - 07:15 PM

All the detractors keep talking about how the Wings need accountability within the organization.  Then Devallano comes out and tries to hold an underwhelming, yet highly anticipated, prospect accountable and people complain. 


Whatever, there's no reason to "poo poo" the kid.  Athanasiou and Nosek were rookies, who dealt with injuries, this year too.  I don't see  anybody talking about how disappointed they are with AA or Nosek.  Why?  Because those guys figured it out and played like professionals. 


I'm not saying Mantha is a bust or anything.  But I don't see a single problem with the organization voicing their dissatisfaction with his play.  He's not been very good.  Should they keep telling him how wonderful he's been?

#2605899 ECSF: Tampa Bay Crying Coopers vs. Montreal Complaining Canadiens

Posted by kipwinger on 04 May 2015 - 10:20 AM

Hmmmmm. What do Burrows, Tucker, and Prust have in common?



#2605898 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by kipwinger on 04 May 2015 - 10:18 AM

You guys are right. Just play all of our young kids from the Griffins. They will probably carry us to the promised land. Oh wait, haven't we been doing that? Hasn't it not been working?


I know right!  Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco, Ferraro, Glendening, and Dekeyser all failed to win us the Cup in their second professional season.  What a bunch of losers!  Time to tear down and rebuild, because this strategy is obviously flawed. 

#2605710 ECSF : (4) Washington Capitals vs. (1) New York Rangers

Posted by kipwinger on 03 May 2015 - 01:31 PM

What a goal by OV today.  I'm not a big fan of his but man that was beastly. 




And honestly I could care less who wins this series, which actually makes it pretty fun to watch.  I'm not emotionally invested so for a change I can sit back and watch the hockey.  To each their own but I don't totally understand who stop watching once the Wings are eliminated. I highly recommend watching a series you're not invested in if the hockey is good.


I felt that way about the Capitals/Islanders series.  It was a great seven games worth of hockey.  It's educational to watch these other series.  When you only watch one team, you have a tendency to get tunnel vision about the team's successes and failures.  There are a lot of ways to be good, and bad, at professional hockey. 


Edit:  Jesus Christ.  Ovechkin is unreal.  Too bad he was all washed up a couple years ago eh?  Lol.