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#2480520 2/3 GDT: Canucks 0 at Justin Abdelkader 2

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 08:22 AM

Based upon the graphics for the GDT I can safely posit only one thing.  Riley Sheahan's head is roughly 3 times the size of Patrick Eaves' head.  Given their relative TOI lately, I can only assume that Babs has some sort of head size bias.

#2480475 The NHL reffing affecting the game

Posted by kipwinger on 02 February 2014 - 08:56 PM

There's obviously less penalties, however that's irrelevant to me seeing as how the real issue is inconsistency, accuracy, and timing which remains just as bad if not worse. Situational calls are so obvious it's painful. Nice condescension though.


You're right, that was pretty condescending.  I apologize to everyone.  I get a little frustrated with referee blaming, but that's not an excuse to be a d*ck.  My bad.

#2480267 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by kipwinger on 02 February 2014 - 03:12 PM

Anybody else think there's a correlation between our team suddenly getting noticeably worse on defense and Brian Lashoff being taken out of the lineup.  Maybe we should consider putting him back in, ya know, because he's good at playing defense.

#2479685 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by kipwinger on 01 February 2014 - 05:52 PM

A couple of things.  Kronwall is a top 30 defenseman...easily.  Also, given how Tatar and Nyquist have produced in their rookie seasons, it's not unreasonable to see them (especially) Tatar up in the 30 goal range.  If so, and depending on their assist totals, they may be able to crack top fifty forwards in another couple of years.  I think Jurco and Mantha both have that ceiling as well, as do Sproul and Mrazek at their respective positions.

#2479613 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 01 February 2014 - 01:24 AM

I like to think that Kenny literally kicks tires. Like, he has this small collection of tires that he keeps somewhere in his office, and every day he kicks them. Then he wonders why no one is calling, so he tries kicking them again, this time with the other foot. You get the idea.


I like to think of my Ken Holland with giant angel wings and singing  lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band, and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk.

#2479172 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 31 January 2014 - 12:17 PM

Why is Brian Lashoff not playing?  Too much defensive responsibility?

#2479157 Would you be ok with this roster?

Posted by kipwinger on 31 January 2014 - 11:31 AM


I wouldn't be against moving him to the bottom pairing when he falters.  There's the chance Smith could become another Kindl and never develop, but I still have hope for the kid.  It's really only his second season and his issue seems between the ears.  I wonder if he's just not adjusting to the grind of an NHL season and doing the little things right night after night after night. 


I don't think he'll ever be some offensive juggernaut but I think he can definitely be a valuable asset on this team's blueline.  I keep trying to remind myself how Kronwall's development went. 


I agree with that, and I think he'll certainly be a 2nd pairing guy eventually.  I guess I was asking if you really felt comfortable with him on the 2nd pair next season as you'd suggested bringing in a stay at home type vet to play with Lashoff and thus making Smith the second pair puck mover. 


I guess I just don't like him (yet) on the second pair if we're going to try and compete for a Cup.

#2479150 Would you be ok with this roster?

Posted by kipwinger on 31 January 2014 - 11:06 AM

Ok, yeah. Happy, not really.


Kip: Not sure how you can think it's better than the current roster, unless you're meaning the current injured roster. Jurco, Sheahan, Callahan, & Ferraro are at best a wash with Alfie, Cleary, Bert and whichever of Eaves/Tootoo/Glendening/Sammy/Emmerton you want to consider our 14th. More likely a bit of a downgrade. Same goes with replacing Quincey and Gustavsson. Plus Pav, Hank, and Franzen all a year older...


I like the confidence you seem to have in the farm, but to say they'd be significantly better is probably an unrealistic expectation. But I do agree that that lineup really wants for a good forward and defenseman. I'd also rather see Mrazek starting in GR than backing up here, but not so much that I'd complain about it.


Bingo.  Compared to what we've iced for almost the entire season I think it's significantly better.  But every point you made is valid and I'd add that I don't agree with many of his lines/defensive pairings. However I think that roster (rearranged) would probably make the playoffs, but not challenge for the cup, which is what I think we're capable with a couple changes (Kindl gone, Smith to the third, puck mover to the second, and power forward to the top six).

#2479128 Would you be ok with this roster?

Posted by kipwinger on 31 January 2014 - 10:11 AM

This was hard because it's significantly better than what we've got now, and because it would probably make the playoffs.  But I don't think it would win the Cup and I want one more of those before Datsyuk and Zetterberg decline.  As such, any lineup that doesn't compete for a Cup is wasting another year of their careers and the lineup above needs a power forward and a better puck mover than Smith to make that happen. 

#2479125 Hypothetical: What Coach Would You Replace Babcock With?

Posted by kipwinger on 31 January 2014 - 09:45 AM

Claude Julien, to me he and Babs are the best two coaches in the game right now.

How Tippett is included in that list is beyond me.


I know the eye test!


TIppett has won next to nothing, he is a cute story, but IMO he is a top 10 coach, but far from best in the game.


Dave Tippett consistently produces playoff quality teams with almost nothing to work with.  Look at my post above.  The VAST majority of Mike Babcock's success came with that kind of talent.  Babs came to Detroit in 2005 and walked onto a team that had four 80 point players.  He coached that team to a first round loss by the way.


Edit:  For accuracy, Mike Modano had 85 pts. in 2003, and Mike Ribiero had 83 in 2008.  That's it.  Twice in his coaching career has Tippett had that kind of player and he still takes his teams to the playoffs consistently.


Edit Edit:  Both Babs and Tippett became head coaches during the 2002-2003 season.  Since then Babs has 445 regular season wins.  Tippett has 427.  Not too shabby with a tenth the talent level, budget, or free agent allure. 

#2478987 Hypothetical: What Coach Would You Replace Babcock With?

Posted by kipwinger on 30 January 2014 - 04:04 PM

Who:  Dave Tippett

Why:  He's the best coach in hockey.

#2478827 Phoenix Coyotes To Be Renamed Arizona Coyotes

Posted by kipwinger on 29 January 2014 - 08:20 PM

I read an interview a couple of months back where the new owner was talking about renaming the team with the Arizona moniker.  It wasn't so much about "rebranding" them as much as it was about making the Coyotes similar in name to the Arizona Diamondbacks and Arizona Cardinals.  Kind of a solidarity move, similar to how all the Pittsburgh teams have the same color scheme for their uniforms.  I actually think it's pretty cool.  A little state pride never hurt anyone.

#2478813 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 January 2014 - 06:56 PM

Detroit would be a better team with Datsyuk and Stamkos than Zetterberg and Stamkos.  Although both teams would be VERY good with either of those combos. Zetterberg NOR Datsyuk are being traded so this is all for fun, but what will be fun is if/when Holland gets that type of scorer to play on the same lilne with BOTH Zetterberg and Datsyuk...and that is a major missing piece that Holland needs to address this summer...


Moving to the D.  Some folks here say that the Wings aren't ONE superstar defenseman away from the Stanley Cup, but if you look at our Stanley Cup winning teams, each and every one of those teams had ONE superstar defenseman and 5-6 solid others. (outside of 1997 when Vladdy was here and Lids was just becoming a superstar)


1997 - Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Fetisov, Murphy, Ward, Pushor, Rouse (Dandenault was still a RW)

1998 - Lidstrom, Murphy, Fetisov, Rouse, Mironov, Eriksson, Macoun (Dandenault was still a RW)

2002 - Lidstrom, Dandenault, Chelios, Duchesne, Fischer, Olausson (Krupp, Slegr)

2008 - Lidstrom, Chelios, Kronwall, Lebda, Rafalski, Stuart, Lilja


The common here is ONE superstar and a group of level B solid defenders.  Right now we have a whole D corps of level B-C defenders


Kronwall - Ericsson - Dekeyser - Smith those four will be your solid group of level B defenders, we NEED that superstar to anchor this team for the next 6-8 years+.


SUPERSTAR - Kronwall

Ericsson - Dekeyser

Smith - B defender

C Defender


That's the key on D.


Lefty, you're reaching.  Lidstrom, Fetisov, Murphy, and Chelios are all Hall of Famers.  Konstantinov would have been.  In the 1997-1998 season Fetisov played 18:00 minutes a night and Murphy 25:00 minutes.  I can't find numbers for the year before but logic dictates it was probably not less icetime given that they were a year younger.  In 2001-2002 Chelios played 25 minutes a night.  In 1997-1998 Lidstrom played 27:00 minutes a night, in 2001-2002 he played 28:00, and in 2007-2008 he played 26:00...again, no stats for 1996-1997 but there's no reason to assume a huge change one way or another.  Finally, because he was only on the first Cup team there's no stats for Konstantinov, but considering he was considered the better of the two (at the time) between he and Lidstrom, you have to assume it was a lot for him as well. 


It's not like they were a bunch of young kids who hadn't reached their potential, or else old guys who were past it.  They were Hall of Fame players logging HUGE minutes.  You've got a moderately valid point for 2008...maybe...but that was post cap and our defense was about as good as it could be given those constraints.

#2478695 Franzen Placed on IR

Posted by kipwinger on 29 January 2014 - 10:15 AM

Just out of curiosity, isn't it possible that nothing nefarious happened and that Franzen simply had a reoccurrence of symptoms which had subsided consistently over the previous week, culminating in three straight days without symptoms at all? 


Is that really such an extraordinary sequence of events?

#2478674 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 January 2014 - 08:45 AM

I'd trade anyone but Zetterberg, Helm, Dekeyser, Smith and Howard for a powerforward. Even Datsyuk. Then add an enforcer. The complexion of this team must change to compete in the east. This would be a start.


I just want to be clear, you'd trade Datsyuk for a powerforward but Smith is untouchable?