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#2489192 Canadians may be shopping Subban...

Posted by kipwinger on 04 March 2014 - 02:40 PM

Might I ask who this #1 Dman is?

 

Subban would instantly be our most talented guy on the blueline - just that he may have attitude issues (that all depends upon who you listen to).

 

Dumb as this may sound - maybe a little mentoring by Lids might get a guy like Subban to change his ways, but then again it's questionable if Babcock would want him on the Wings.

 

Our #1 d-man is Kronwall.  I agree that Subban is better.  But we don't need that because there's nothing wrong with Kronwall at #1.  Everybody always seems to think you need a team full of all-stars to compete.  You don't.  We've got a #1, we don't have a #3.  So rather than spend insane assets to get a star, just to say that we got a star, why not just get the #3 that we need and keep our assets? 

 

And that's no knock on Subban, I like Subban, he's awesome...we just don't need him for what he'd cost.




#2489094 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 March 2014 - 12:26 PM

 

They had the same issue last year and went all in on forwards.

 

100% true.  I guess I was just thinking that if he's half the "genius" GM everyone proclaims him to be he'd have learned from that mistake.  Maybe not though. 

 

Edit:  I decided to check the numbers and they've got the 9th best goals against in the league so I guess they're not as bad as I thought.  You'd still think they'd be looking to replace Letang though.




#2489081 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 04 March 2014 - 12:01 PM

I wonder if Shero is really willing to sell the farm for Kesler or if he's just trying to scare away potential suitors/drive up the price for rivals.  I mean, I can certainly imagine him going nuts and trading half of his farm club for an elite player...but wouldn't it make more sense for that player to be a defenseman than a forward...ya know, because their defense is laughable?




#2489079 Edler-Kesler Vs. Ehrhoff-Stewart

Posted by kipwinger on 04 March 2014 - 11:58 AM

This sums ME up. The names I keep hearing tossed around for trades are Nyquist-Tatar & Jurco. These players are our picks, drafts & now our studs, Id be shocked to see them moved...

 

Agreed, I'd be VERY reluctant to move any of them.  I've made clear my preferences IF they have to be moved.  I was just trying to point out that we definitely have assets, it's just not smart to trade them unless you're getting studs in return. 




#2489077 Canadians may be shopping Subban...

Posted by kipwinger on 04 March 2014 - 11:54 AM

Don't get me wrong, Subban is awesome.  But we don't need a #1 d-man, we've got one.  We need a #3-4 d-man to play with Dekeyser and that ain't Subban.  I'll take Erhoff and keep the assets personally.




#2488975 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 March 2014 - 10:27 PM

Shero reportedly says he'll beat any offer on Kesler.  So there goes that.




#2488969 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 March 2014 - 10:06 PM

If anything I think Kesler is getting underrated in this thread.  He dives and is kind of an idiot at times, but the guy has put up two 70+ points seasons, scored over 40 goals before, and is a responsible forward who's tough to play against.  

 

I don't expect that he'd put up 70 points on the Wings or pot 40 goals again, but he could be good for 20+ goals and 50+ points.  

 

How many players on Detroit currently could do that while playing Selke worthy defense?

 

My biggest concerns with Kesler would be the d-bag factor and his health.  I'd hope that in Detroit he'd knock off most of the diving.  Though I hear that's already reduced under Tortorella.  

 

All in all though it's theoretical.  I think it's extremely unlikely he's coming to the Wings. 

 

I'm not going to preach to the choir, but yes, Ryan Kesler is a super good hockey player.  You're correct that he's being underrated here.


Wait wait wait, that jostles my memory. He did say Poilliot but would need some sort of piece coming back. The writer commented that last time he upped the ante and requested a piece in return, it ended up being Pascal Depres.

 

Is "Pascal Depres" a frankenstein monster made up of Pascal Dupuis and Simon Despres?




#2488930 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 March 2014 - 08:07 PM

That would definitely be an overpayment, and there's no way that Vancouver is asking for that.  As usual St. James is exposing herself as clueless.




#2488847 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 March 2014 - 04:50 PM

I'd still rather trade Nyquist than Tatar.  He's the better player sure, but because of that he'll get you the better return.  Plus Tatar is aggressive.  We don't have enough of that.  He's harder to play against and gives us a different dynamic.  Nyquist is really skilled, but he essentially plays the same style as everybody else.  In another year or two when Tatar's up around 195 lbs. he's going to be a motherf*cker to play against.




#2488826 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 March 2014 - 03:38 PM

sheahan has already proven he's capable of a 3rd line center role. he's out of waiver options next year so he'll probably be here unless he is traded.  he also brings some size that this team needs up front.

 

helm isn't good enough to be a 2nd line center, and he's too expensive to be a 4th line center.  he also has back issues to take into consideration.

 

hence, he's expendable.

 

I"m not sure having a single back injury is the same as having back issues.  Zetterberg has back issues, Bertuzzi has back issues.  Helm had a back injury. 




#2488755 Datsyuk vs. Zetterberg

Posted by kipwinger on 03 March 2014 - 10:15 AM

Said it before and I'll say it again.  Zetterberg is the better player...by quite a lot actually.




#2488534 Marty St. Louis wants out because The Captain hurt his feelings

Posted by kipwinger on 02 March 2014 - 10:51 AM

He's apparently fine. Selections come out, he's upset. Then he says he wants out. What other reason would he have?

 

It's hard to say, maybe he'd been told he was going to make the team then didn't.  Maybe they wanted him and Stamkos together, and when Stamkos went down St. Louis was dropped.  Maybe it really is just that he felt snubbed given that he's playing at an INSANELY high level the last couple years. 

 

You're right, it's pretty clearly about the Olympics...but I think there's probably more to the story than just "I didn't make it so I'm mad".  He didn't make it in 2010 and didn't ask for a trade, so if it's just about being a baby over an Olympic snub...why not then?




#2488524 Marty St. Louis wants out because The Captain hurt his feelings

Posted by kipwinger on 02 March 2014 - 10:34 AM

It was a committee of people. Yzerman had the final say, but it wasn't him sitting home in his man cave or Buffalo Wild Wings drafting a fantasy team. Babcock and everyone else had input too.

 

So it was the same process as all the other teams pretty much?  (except the Russians, lord knows how they pick their Team).


 

Regardless, can anyone really criticize Yzerman for his selections this year or in 2010? Two gold medals and I'm not sure, but aren't they also unbeaten in both Olympics as well?

 

They lost in 2010 to the US team in the prelims.




#2488513 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 02 March 2014 - 09:43 AM

I think Kenny's being coy, he's trading that 1st in a package.  He's go so many quality prospects he's about to start losing them and this year's draft class is relatively thin...of all the years to trade your pick now is the time.




#2488485 Marty St. Louis wants out because The Captain hurt his feelings

Posted by kipwinger on 02 March 2014 - 02:48 AM

Martin St. Louis has been one of the most respected and well thought of players in the NHL for a very long time.  I don't think he turned into a ****** bag overnight.  Something happened, we don't know what it was.  When it comes out, he might be the bad guy...which is fine.  But currently there's no reason to think that a career class act all of a sudden decided to act like a baby.