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#2563162 Franzen on IR

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 01:03 PM

Again after Francine was signed I said, YES! Now get Hossa signed and dump Hudler and Filppula.  But we see that Holland chose to keep Hudler and Filppula and in turn forced Hossa to leave with an stupidly low ball contract offer.



So why don't you blame Hudler and Filppula for not being traded?  Why does your ire fall on Franzen?  He signed a sweetheart deal three months before Hossa left, and it's a "choice" between him and Hossa?  Why don't you ever, EVER, present "the choice" as being between Hossa and Filppula, or Hossa and Hudler?


I'll tell you why.  Because it's not as easy an argument to make, that's why.  Because, in hindsight, everyone agrees that Franzen has been underwhelming.  Not worth his contract.  So you parade yourself around here, acting like you "knew it all along", because saying "Franzen sucks" is easy.  And people largely agree with you. 


But you didn't know it all along.  Ooooooh no you didn't.  Just like everybody else, you thought the signing was good.  You advocated for it.  And why not?  Franzen had just had two MONSTER years.  It WAS a good signing at the time.  It all went sour AFTER he didn't perform up to snuff. 


Which is all you need to say.  I'd kiss your ass right now if you'd just once tell the truth..."I, Leftwinger, liked the signing when it happened.  However, in hindsight, it didn't work out for the team".  That's the truth. 


But instead we'll hear endlessly about how "you knew better".  You didn't.  That point is fraudulent.  You were just as fooled by Franzen's two good years as everyone else. 


If you're a prophet, you're a false one. 

#2563160 TB's Paquette learns the hard way, don't start **** w Chara

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 12:56 PM

Thanks for posting this... The double standard of Bruins commentary is ridiculous. Nobody gives a s*** if Krejci lead the league in scoring in the playoffs TWICE, Jack. The game is getting chippy and I'm sorry, there's plenty of time for Krejci to just skate away instead of mucking it up with Brown. Same for Paquette with Chara.  ...but of course, that's totally deserved. 


"Writing checks" and "Spittin' chickets", eh, Jack... Brickley? 


Whatever. You two are the absolute worst.

The rest of their commentary throughout the rest of the game was despicable.

Once he realizes that he might get back on the ice... you can hear Edwards salivating at the prospect of JT Brown getting his comeuppance. 

He's the "hack", not Brown. 


No, it's most definitely waiverzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.


I don't really have a problem with Edwards' homerism.  He's not a national announcer, there's no need for him to be unbiased. 


I do, however, have a problem with how blatantly, and non ironically, he panders to the lowest common denominator (read:  Bruins fans).  It's like he knows all the worst things about sports fans, and targets those things in the dumbest possible way.  Fans don't like refs?  He'll ***** about the officiating endlessly.  Goal waived off?  That's precisely the one that changed the course of hockey.  Don't like rats?  They're ruining the game (except the ones employed by the Bruins).  He specifically targets the dumbest, most ill formed, laziest, points of view, and then repeats them back at a higher volume. 


In short, if you like Jack Edward's act, or agree with the things he says, you're stupid.  And it's because you're stupid that he's saying those things. 

#2563154 Franzen on IR

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 12:44 PM

I could be wrong here, but me thinks if Holland would've signed Hossa long term that would've meant Franzen would've been traded, or been forced to sign for alot less.


EDIT - and there's a good chance that we here at LGW would've started a thread about Hossa's injured shoulder, and the number of games missed...


Franzen signed first, to a sweetheart deal, well below market value.  Given how Ken Holland works, you really think he would have traded Franzen three months after Franzen did management a favor and took a lower cap hit?  C'mon. 

#2563150 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 12:32 PM

I'm not taking the bait anymore Kip... :boxing: There's no way you're truly that anti-Smith...


We'll see.  We will just see about that!

#2563141 TB's Paquette learns the hard way, don't start **** w Chara

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 12:02 PM

There are guys that can beat him but sadly save for Scott most are in the ahl now or hurt :(Bourdelaux). Chara is soo tall and if he caps someone he is going to get the takedown his father is a pro wrestler


But surely a smaller guy could channel "the big bad bear" and board him, right?  That would be sooooo cool and tough.  I mean seriously, if Chara wants to go all big, bad, bear, bruin, on people, they should be allowed to injure and maim him in response, right bro?  f*** yeah!

That's Mr. Rocket to you


I'll board the s*** out of him AND his widow right freakin' now!  You think I'm afraid of a dead guy and an old woman?  I'm Bruins' strong.  Find a person smaller and weaker than I am and I'll smash their face into a wall anytime I feel like it.  Punk.

#2563127 1/13 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Sabres 1

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 11:26 AM

I don't know, didn't he insist he get a photograph with all his former assistants that are now head coaches at the draft this year? I think he's more sentimental then his stern demeanor portrays. Plus I think I heard him say Glendening was like the son he never had.


Awww, that makes this guy a saaaaaad panda.  It's his own fault though, you've got to compete harder and be an "everydayer" if you want to be Mike Babcock's son.  Lil' Michael Babcock just needs to steal somebody else's job that's all. 



#2563117 TB's Paquette learns the hard way, don't start **** w Chara

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 11:17 AM

I wish I was born a genetic mutant.


I would get all the women and I would dominate at the food trough.


I would also take liberties with other people in my profession, and have my team's jersey worn by frankgrimes while he pretends to watch Red Wings games. :glare:




Dude what are you talking about?  Boarding and gloved punches to little guys' faces are part of the game.  Always have been, always will be.  If you weren't on the soft, euro, pussified, nancy boy, bandwagon you'd realize Chara is just bringin' old time hockey back to the masses. 

#2563095 1/13 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Sabres 1

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 09:30 AM

Everybody knows my feelings on Babcock, but this was pretty classy of him:



#2563094 TB's Paquette learns the hard way, don't start **** w Chara

Posted by kipwinger on 14 January 2015 - 09:21 AM

Oh sweet, the biggest guy in the league boarded someone and hit another guy with a gloved fist.  What a tough dude he is.  Puke. 

#2563056 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 13 January 2015 - 10:08 PM

Doesn't Petry get PP time? He should be scoring more


He does.  And he should.  I agree, he's not great.  Certainly not the right handed, puck moving, saving grace that Detroit is supposedly interested in.  Which is why, if we're interested in him, we should wait until the offseason and sign him (rather than giving up assets in a trade). 

#2562854 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by kipwinger on 13 January 2015 - 02:02 PM


Incentive you say?




Point taken, but it's not like Jeff Petry is winning them games. 

#2562781 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 10:51 PM

I frequent hockeysfuture quite often for articles but as far as their stats and bios go, I think they're terrible. hockeydb is great for NHL players info but I have found it to be very sketchy when it comes to minor leaguers and European players. griffinscentral is another good spot for articles but I find it to be very amateur, and considering they haven't updated Landon's profile picture from his days with the Red Deer Rebels, I think it's a safe bet that they haven't updated his bio either... redwingscentral was by far the best for all Red Wings prospects related info. I miss them...

Either way, I'll trust the two official team sites over any of the others. Also, I can't imagine Bob Kaser not knowing the information on any of Griffins players that he deals with on a daily basis.

No worries. It's not that big a deal, I was just curious to know where you were getting the information.

Either way, I do believe Ferraro still has the potential to be a decent grinder at the NHL level. I hope he makes it someday.


When you google his name, google provides a short summary profile on the right side of the screen and it has him listed as 170 lbs.  That's where I saw it, but clearly that's not a good source. 

#2562709 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 04:32 PM

Is anyone else envious that Lucic gets to spend his summers in such a beautiful part of Canada?


I'm guessing he goes to the local humane society to punch strays to keep his d-bag level up to snuff.


He probably doesn't punch them, but there's a good chance he helps neuter them with his stick. 

#2562705 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 04:26 PM


What did Henrik Zetterberg do to deserve that? Honestly though, I like those with the exception that I think Gus and Z should play together, like Tatar and Pav should. I don't know what to do with either Weiss or Franzen at this point -- one probably deserves a shot at a larger role and the other really just doesn't fit anywhere. 


I agree.  Honestly I think both could be traded without too much harm done to the team, but I don't see it happening. 


With regard to Nyquist, while I agree that he's good with Zetterberg, I don't think he's been very good at all lately.  Teams are checking him tight and not giving him any room to make plays.  I think he'd benefit from the mismatch on the third line.  Plus, it's not like Franzen and Z don't play well together.  They have for years.  And I'm convinced that Weiss will flourish if moved back to center.  He sees the ice really well, is a strong passer, and can makes plays quickly.  Put him with a couple of proven guys and I think the line will (collectively) do some damage. 

#2562695 McGratton on waivers

Posted by kipwinger on 12 January 2015 - 03:17 PM

I guess now we know, truly, the difference between being on waiveerrrrzzzz and merely being on waivers. Hello darkness my old friend...


I think you've pinpointed it exactly.