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#2561851 Osgood circa 2008 *Mod Advisory @ #18*

Posted by kipwinger on 08 January 2015 - 02:55 PM

At the time I thought Ozzy should get the nod because he was playing so well, but when the other goalie is one of if not the best goaltender to ever play the game, a guy who has strapped teams on his back and carried them to the final rounds, you give him a shot.

It's funny though that you're going all the way back to 2008 to try and chip away at Babcock's reputation and the "myth" of his genius.

He's a coach who:

Won a Stanley Cup
Got to the Finals two other times (once with a cinderella team)
won 2 Gold medals
Is the only coach in the triple gold club.
second fastest to 500 wins (Bowman being 1st)

But the "myth of his genius" was formed on Ozzy's playoff run in 2008? Honestly at this point your Babcock fixation is genuinely entertaining.

 

 

Presumably you haven't scrolled down to where I said of the purpose of the thread..."Actually it was just his 2008 performance.  The Babcock part was just me being a smartass and making an aside".

 

And furthermore, at this point part of the reason I talk so much s*** about Babcock is because I know you'll write a report to defend him.  Kinda like krsmith17 does with Brendan Smith. 

 

Lighten up Harold. 




#2561831 Osgood circa 2008 *Mod Advisory @ #18*

Posted by kipwinger on 08 January 2015 - 01:54 PM

 

Almost Hall of Fame worthy but apparently not quite. :glare:

 

Sooooo annoying when I hear that.  He actually beats Fuhr across the board, and is back and forth with Roy as far as who has better numbers. But everybody knows Osgood played behind a great team, while those other two played behind a bunch of bums and had to do it all themselves.  




#2561808 Nashville has yet to lose 2 games in a row this season

Posted by kipwinger on 08 January 2015 - 12:44 PM

 

I feel like they could have gotten more for Richards at the time. Maybe not.

 

Weren't both players traded because they like to do this too much?richards-carter-party-1.jpg

 

That's the rumor.  Although, they haven't sniffed success since these guys left so maybe having a couple juvenile, alcoholic, ***** hounds on the team wasn't such a bad thing after all.

 

I mean...it seems to work for Patrick Kane. 




#2561805 Osgood circa 2008 *Mod Advisory @ #18*

Posted by kipwinger on 08 January 2015 - 12:40 PM

He was absolutely great in 2008. Two shutouts to start the finals against that Pittsburgh offense speaks for itself, great team in front of him or not. 

 

But I actually thought he was better on an individual level in the 2009 playoffs, despite putting up worse stats. When you consider how well he played despite having to play behind a very battered team that even lost Lidstrom for some games, I think there's no way he wouldn't have won the Conn Smythe had we beaten Pittsburgh. 

 

He deserved the Conn Smythe in 2008.  Hank was awesome, don't get me wrong, but Osgood kept us alive. 




#2561796 Nyquist Fined for Diving/Embellishment

Posted by kipwinger on 08 January 2015 - 12:24 PM

 

Man, I miss Maltby sometimes...sometimes I think Kirk Maltby is my spirit animal.

 

I like to think of Kirk Maltby knocking back some Carling Black Label and listening to Bachman-Turner Overdrive. 




#2561753 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 08 January 2015 - 10:26 AM

If That's the case, I feel bad for the caps

 

I'm sure they're not too worried about it.  If I recall correctly they've got a pretty good shooter too. 

 

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#2561752 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 08 January 2015 - 10:22 AM

 

I'd be OK with keeping Tatar, Datsyuk , and Helm together and giving Teemu a big center to play with. 

 

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader

Tatar - Datsyuk - Helm

Weiss- Sheahan - Pulkkinen

Miller - Glendening - Cleary

 

Weiss and Sheahan both like going to the net and they are excellent passers in tight. I could see Pulkinnen getting some room to shot.

 

Yeah, I like these a little better.  Both Weiss and Sheahan should be able to find Pulkkinen in the open. 

 

An aside...does anyone else laugh at the thought of Doc Emrick saying "driiiiiiiiiiiive" every time Pulkkinen shoots?  If Pulkkinen cranks a really hard slapper I think Doc's head will explode. 




#2561414 Nyquist Fined for Diving/Embellishment

Posted by kipwinger on 07 January 2015 - 07:39 PM

Smart enough to be more subtle about it, maybe, but more or less yeah.

 

I think there's a pretty big difference between saying all players will get away with as much as they can, and saying all players will trap a guy's stick between their legs, jump straight up in the air, and fall down as if shot. 




#2561399 Nyquist Fined for Diving/Embellishment

Posted by kipwinger on 07 January 2015 - 06:26 PM

Definitely deserved but what about teams like Anaheim and Pittsburgh that breed divers? I don't see them getting fined.

 

Considering they've only handed out like 3 fines so far, I'd say just wait a while.  They'll get theirs.


 

Hitting someone in the head and embellishing are slightly different things.

 

I think you're being a bit too hard-line about this. Diving sucks, but it's a thing. That's why they're doing this fining system - it's gotten slightly out of control and the league wants to clamp down on it. (Granted, the same can be said of hits to the head. But, again, I'll take a dive over a shot to someone's head. Not that I condone either one, mind you.)

 

Point is, you can rationalize just about anything by saying "we're not the only ones doing it".  Doesn't make it any less dirty.  It takes ZERO class to dive.  If Yzerman didn't do it, and Lidstrom didn't do it, and Datsyuk and Zetterberg don't do it, then our next generation stars and leaders shouldn't do it.  Nyquist obviously feels like it's ok to do.  He should be broken of that flawed thinking by the coaching staff. 




#2561391 Nyquist Fined for Diving/Embellishment

Posted by kipwinger on 07 January 2015 - 06:16 PM

Sheeesh you guys act like that never happens and he's not the only one doing it.  

 

By that rationale we should be ok with it if one of our guys cheap shots someone in the head.  Ya know, because other people do it too. 

 

I'm a proponent of having higher standards than that. 




#2561378 Nyquist Fined for Diving/Embellishment

Posted by kipwinger on 07 January 2015 - 05:36 PM

Talk about playing heavy.

 

But seriously, he should be ashamed of himself.  Hopefully this gets him demoted for a few games.  If not, Babcock's full of it too. 




#2561357 Randy Carlyle relieved of his duties by Leafs

Posted by kipwinger on 07 January 2015 - 04:18 PM

I wonder if Babcock would be a good GM.. My d twitched a bit when I thought of holland as VP, babs as GM and blashill as coach but I'm unsure

 

How easy is it to find 23 Luke Glendenings?




#2561274 1/6 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Edmonton Oilers 2

Posted by kipwinger on 07 January 2015 - 12:23 AM

 

Hey. What did you think of that play where Quincey wasn’t trying to not lose?  :w00t:

 

Yeah, they did a bang up job tonight by only barely "not losing" to the worst team in history.  The Oilers are only slightly better than District 5, sans Gordon Bombay AND Adam Banks. 




#2561270 1/6 GDT : Red Wings 4 at Edmonton Oilers 2

Posted by kipwinger on 07 January 2015 - 12:17 AM

Whelp, glad we won but man what a stinker of a game.  If we keep playing like this we're a lock to get into the playoffs...and promptly sent home.  The guys need to shape up.  Bad. 




#2561015 Randy Carlyle relieved of his duties by Leafs

Posted by kipwinger on 06 January 2015 - 05:40 PM

I thought Babcock was going to go to Minnesota, because his wife's sister lives there with her boyfriend Jeff?  Or was it Washington, because Brooks Orpik signed a rookie card for Lil' Mike Babcock?  Or was it the Rangers, because Babs' is pretty close buddies with Ken Hitchcock, who used to dream of living the bohemian life in Greenwich Village as a twenty something?