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#2620620 Free agents this off season

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 15 July 2015 - 12:05 PM

That's why Mike Green was smart. He didn't get the term he wanted so instead he chose a team which would be a good fit for his style of game. Plus he gets to make the same yearly salary he was making in Washington. Now Franson is going to have to accept a much lesser deal because he over estimated his value and misread the market.

Now the Wings can sign Franson for 4 mill,and trade Ericsson for a 4th rounder and kindl for a 7th.

#2620603 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by e_prime on 15 July 2015 - 11:13 AM

Chuck Pleiness @wingsfrontman 23m23 minutes ago Chesterfield, MI

Forward Louis-Marc Aubry signs a one-year, two-way deal with the wings. Aubry will make $575,000 in the NHL and $80,000 in the AHL.

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In other news:  We can't buy out Franzen until next year, and if we do, it will be costly not in actual dollar amount but in salary cap dollars because of the nature of his front loaded contract. 
If we trade Franzen and he decides to retire, we will be hit with costly recapture salary cap dollars.  If we waive Franzen and he is claimed we are still on the hook for recapture dollars if he does not finish out his contract.  If we waive him and he goes down to GR, we'll garner little savings.
I would post the numbers, but most of you Franzen haters didn't even read this post... let alone care about sound reasoning when it comes to the player and his potential.
His potential, even as a thirteenth forward often scratched -- much like Weiss who's cap hit was more or Cleary, who clearly isn't an NHL caliber player, is worth more than any of the savings we'd get from any of the awful options listed above.  So he doesn't play 82 games and put up the numbers he once did... but if he can slot in for injuries, chip in some goals here and there, get on a streak and dominate. 
Gee. All the clusterf*** of cap woes above and his possible potential  I don't know why I'd want to dump him in the bin.
Also, when the pro-Franzen s***-storm happens, I'm not buying an umbrella.  I'll be like Tim Robbins in Shawshank Redemption after he crawls through the sewage tunnel, raising his arms to the sky with the rain pouring down -- except the exact opposite because I'm all clean and nothing but s*** is raining down.  Sweet glorious Franzen s***!  Still gonna welcome it like SWEET FREEDOM!

#2620593 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 15 July 2015 - 10:49 AM

Just some Johan Franzen statistics I hope get considered when we potentially sacrifice Ferrarro, Pulkinnen or Callahan for him:


-He is going to be 36 years old in December.

-He has never played a full 82 game season in his career.

-He has only scored 30+ goals one time during his career - in 2008/2009.

-He has never recorded more than 60 points in any season during his career.

-He has played 33, 54, and 41 games respectively through the past 3 seasons.

-In those 3 seasons, he has scored 37 goals in 128 games - which averages out to be a 23 goal season (in 82 Games).

-Since 2010, he has scored 7 goals and 5 assists in 32 playoff games.


These numbers have predominately come as top 6 forward while lined up on either Pavel Datsyuk or Henrik Zetterberg's wing - but unfortunately, don't all of Gustav Nyquist, Tomas Tatar, Justin Abdelkader, Darren Helm and Riley Sheahan deserve or potentially do more with that opportunity than Franzen in 2015/16?  


If we believe that he's going to the healthy, rejuvenated, relatively quick power forward that we once saw - maybe I'm wrong and he would deserve a top 6 role... But when that doesn't happen, the collateral effects wont hurt us this year as much as next (assuming the Canadian Dollar doesn't rebound).


It also statistically proven that our team scores more goals and allows fewer goals without him in the lineup - puck possession doesn't really change. Not saying I know what to do with him, but we certainly have a financial problem if he can't crack the top 6.


All in all, you wont catch me in line buying umbrella's for the  "pro-Franzen s*** storm" that isn't going to come.

#2620581 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by barabbas16 on 15 July 2015 - 09:43 AM

Franzen's .75 points per game that he consistently provided over the past 7 seasons are easily replaceable by any number of prospects. Kindly place him in the dumpster where he belongs, with the rest of the refuse.

#2620576 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by joesuffP on 15 July 2015 - 08:30 AM

So it must be done... We must murder Franzen... It's the only way

#2620514 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by barabbas16 on 14 July 2015 - 02:47 PM

The only reported rumor that had any legs when it comes to Phaneuf is that Weiss was involved in the trade.
I dunno where this "Franzen in the deal" trade speculation has materialized from...
...and while I'm sure EVERYONE would love to talk more about Franzen and his noggin'
Can't it be done in the multitude of other threads already dedicated to Franzen?
So we've got an over/under goal total for Jurco...  How about Pulkkinen?

The two subjects are connected, though. If Franzen is healthy, it could directly affect the playing time and goal totals of Jurco and Pulkkinen. If Mule is able to handle even a moderate load of games played, Jurco and Pulkkinen may be competing with each other for a spot in the lineup.

#2620492 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by Buppy on 14 July 2015 - 12:05 PM

Do we have cap room to re-sign all three?

Yes. I would guess both Jurco and Pulkkinen will get around $900k. That would put us $200-400k under the cap, depending on which of Ferraro and Andersson goes to GR. Aubry is irrelevant since he'll be in GR.


Next season will be tricky though. Wouldn't be shocked to see a move or two this year in anticipation of that. 

#2620487 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 14 July 2015 - 11:49 AM

I'm sure a trade is forthcoming, to clear some space. Plus Franzen might end up on the LTIR when the season starts.

I would love to see someone take Franzen's contract to end that chapter. Maybe Florida or the Yotes.

Ericsson should be traded asap. Play Kindl and dangle him if he plays good and free up room for Marchenko and XO.

Jurco will net 11.

#2620377 Mitch Callahan signed 1-year - 600k

Posted by Jesusberg on 13 July 2015 - 01:43 PM

plus Jensen for two years! Both out of exemptions. Trade coming or Franzen done. Either way, glad Mitch and Nick are re-signed!

Detroit Red Wings sign defenseman Nick Jensen to two-year contract: Jenson, a 2009… http://t.co/Wq2Z7DQZy6 via @RedWingsMLive #RedWings

Jensen's not out of exemptions. He's got one more year.

2015-16: Jurco & Pulkkinen
2016-17: Frk, Jensen, Marchenko, Mrazek, Nedomlel, Ouellet, Sproul & Tvrdon
2017-18: Athanasiou, Campbell, Coreau, Mantha & Nosek
2018-19: Nastasiuk & Paterson

Games played in the NHL could change some of that, but that's where most of our guys stand right now.

#2620160 Free agents this off season

Posted by krsmith17 on 11 July 2015 - 10:53 PM

Pulkkinen. Is. Not. Slow... He's not lightning fast by any means, but he has no trouble keeping pace at the NHL level.

#2620019 Gustav Nyquist signed 4-Year Deal $4.75 mill AAV

Posted by Bannedforlife on 10 July 2015 - 05:16 PM

Holland's best offseason this decade?

#2619996 Gustav Nyquist signed 4-Year Deal $4.75 mill AAV

Posted by kipwinger on 10 July 2015 - 03:22 PM

Hopefully this contract will help motivate Tatar as well.  If Gus can cash in like this, Tatar is looking at a hefty raise if he keeps being the better player. 

#2619248 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 06 July 2015 - 02:32 PM

Left Winger - I agree... same train of thought.


I question:


1. If Nyquist scores 48 points (for example) next season, doesn't his trade value plummet? I don't think 48 points seems way off... And at that point he would certainly look more Hudler than Z.  

2. If Anthanasiou scores 60 points as a Griffin next season - Is he not heading down the exact same developmental path as Nyquist/Tatar/Pulkinnen? But as a bigger and more complete player than all three?


My point is that I think we really underestimate our player development system and forget that at some point we need to replace our franchise players... If Nyquist can be used as a legitimate piece to acquire someone with that potential - I absolutely do it.


Don't forget that our patented late round, offensively gifted, yet undersized players don't exactly have a history of lighting it up in the post-season - when it matters.

#2619196 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Andy Pred 48 on 06 July 2015 - 10:58 AM

The Detroit Red Wings were among the teams interested in unrestricted free agent defenseman Johnny Oduya.

According to two separate sources, the Red Wings reached out to Oduya last week, but the veteran blueliner appears set on returning to the Chicago Blackhawks.


Meanwhile, Wings GM Ken Holland is believed to be exploring the trade market for a second- or third-line forward.

He could go after one of the remaining unrestricted free agent forwards, if he can sign one at an affordable rate.


taken from the TFP, if this is the case youve gotta believe Kenny has something else up his sleeve that may make

us all sit up and take note.

#2618480 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 01 July 2015 - 05:50 PM

Looks like the lineup gonna look something like this ....

Zetterberg datsyuk abdelkader

Tatar richards nyquist

Pulkkinen sheahan Franzen

Helm glendening miller


Jurco Ferraro Andersson Callahan

Kronwall Ericsson

Dekeyser green

Quincey Smith/marchenko/ouellet/kindl

I'd personally rather replace Franzen with jurco