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#2528980 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by GoWings1905 on 01 July 2014 - 06:56 PM

Actually, we'll probably be a middle of the pack team again. Woohoo exciting.


Worst place to be in hockey. The Wings are turning into the Calgary Flames. Lingering in mediocrity and Holland is content to keep the playoff streak alive. Honestly, it will never happen, but shouldn't the Wings consider moving Z and/or Pavel? They aren't true contenders and aren't bad enough to get high draft picks to make an immediate impact (or they rot in Grand Rapids for four years anyways). I don't know, after today, I'm at a loss. Feel like it might be time to just tear it down entirely and rebuild.


#2528970 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Mors on 01 July 2014 - 06:51 PM

I've generally been quiet and tried to avoid any sensational posts...but damn...Quincey again, with a raise? I would have been happier signing no one. Was Jim Nill the real brains of this operation?




#2528186 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 01 July 2014 - 01:36 PM


Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun  7s

Antron Stralman, $20 M over five years with Tampa Bay Lightning


Good deal for them
The wings defense is gonna be awful next season


#2528117 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by CMatt89 on 01 July 2014 - 01:19 PM

The real loser over the last 5 years is pavel datsyuk.


#2527476 UFA day looking up

Posted by Shaman on 30 June 2014 - 11:39 PM

 

He's not coming back. Ok? We'll never know if it's PR spin or not. You have ur Red Wings live in fantasy land opinion, I have a different one, but at the end of the day the loser is gone so lets just be happy about it.

 

On a two way contract I'd take him!

 

I would not take him on a two way contract

 

I would not take him with a missing contact

 

I would not take him with Megan Fox

 

I would not take him with two pet rocks

 

I would not take him Shaman I am

 

I would not take that defensive sham.




#2526906 FLA to Buyout Jovanovski

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 29 June 2014 - 12:38 PM

Ah, I might be thinking of Wisniewski. Or maybe it was both.

 

Pretty sure Wisniewski said it.  Not sure about Jovo.

 

In any case, what they said was true.  Kenny is cheap.  




#2527119 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by kipwinger on 30 June 2014 - 08:51 AM

Erhoff would likely get 6M range. It helps our bargaining stance. Erhoff is the safe choice but I really want a right handed defensemen. Erhoff seems like a Kenny type of deal 3-4 years

 

Lol.  LGW is the only place where every free agent is going to get 6 million per year, and the starting point for every trade is Mantha + 1st. 

 

Christian Ehrhoff will not get 6 million dollars.  Not happening. 




#2527074 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by darkmanx on 29 June 2014 - 09:36 PM

we can afford both. Erhoff got bought out, so he can come fairly cheap. $3M maybe. Niskanen $6m maybe. Trade Kindl and give that $2.4M to Diesel. You still got $5m for Sheahan and Tatar. Once you dump Andersson and give Sheahan and Tats about $2.5M together. You have over $3M for Iginla or just hold on to the $3M for space.

Wow.....  :no:




#2526829 BUF to buy out Christian Ehrhoff

Posted by Echolalia on 29 June 2014 - 09:49 AM

I wonder if Holland can land both of them

 

Kronwall Erhoff

NIskanen Dekeyser

Smith Ericsson

 




#2525850 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by Euro_Twins on 26 June 2014 - 12:13 PM

How bout this instead

Kh: Hey Matt haven't you wondered what playing on an original 6 dynasty would be like?

Mn: actually yes I have. You have a very storied and respected franchise.

Kh: yup and we have a lot of very young and very promising players coming up, you could be a part of something big here.

Mn: sign me up!


#2525824 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by DeGraa55 on 26 June 2014 - 11:07 AM

Not the free agent I want BUT if signed I would applaud holland for finally signing a bigger name free agent.


#2525471 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 June 2014 - 12:23 PM

The amount of negative opinions being spouted around here are incredible. We're not even in July yet and people are calling the season practically as good as dead and all because of what? Because we re-signed one of our best players from last season and we haven't addressed any of our issues yet. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's fine, but when you're constantly thrashing out the same old line over and over, it gets a little tiresome. I know I know. KH sucks, Franzen is lazy, Howard will never be the elite goalie that we seem to somehow be entitled to just because we're the Red Wings, our D couldn't win the Calder Cup let alone the Stanley Cup, and we're got a forward group that's full of a bunch of washed up, old, warn out, injury prone veterans who can't even keep up with their own children on the ice anymore. 

 

We all know that success comes in cycles, and that good teams eventually get knocked down a peg a little and then have to build their way back up to the top again. This is precisely what is happening with the Wings right now, and with what we've seen last year that we've got good young kids in DeKeyser, Jurco, Sheahan, Tatar, Nyquist and Mrazek all ready to contribute, why should we trade a bunch of em away when we're not going to get full return on them and when really, right now, they provide our team with energy, skill and desire to win. Alfie coming back helps because he's got a bomb of a shot for the PP, he's still got good wheels, and provides another leadership presence in the room. Those of you who are bashing him, do you really think that our situation would improve if you shoved some unready kid onto top line minutes for the entire season? Don't you think that would actually make our team worse and then we might be 'mediocre'? 

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not oblivious to the fact that this team has holes, which are primarily on D. But at least for heavens sakes, give management a chance to address them before you start calling for their heads. 

 

Don't have to read it if you don't like it, problem solved. I think it isn't so much negativity and more concerns - for all the right reasons - since 2009 this team hasn't even come close to anything near cup contention. Then Lidström retired and there was no plan B because we didn't get Suter.

 

The problem is, Alife and co. aren't what the Wings need longtermwise a young team at some point needs to build chemistry in order to go forward and know the in and outs of their defensive or offensive linemates. Look at the Kings they grew together and even then, Lombardi saw his team needed a broader leadership group brings in Richards, sees the team isn't scoring enough brings in Carter --> first cup for the kings, two years he sees a top 6 need brings in Gaborik ----> cup #2.

 

And what are the Wings -- a team that isn't even close the talent level of the powerhouses -- doing ? Sign one patchwork player after another instead of maybe risking the streak and build for the future. If the mojo around the league is really that the Wings aren't willing to overpay well then good luck getting any top ufa to sign here, it's not going to happen. Unless of course you are 34+. The needs for improvement have been evident since 2009 and that to me is enough time to make the neccessary move especially after losing an alltime top 4 defender. Armstrong has build a very good Blues team and yet he saw a chance/need and brought in Miller yeah it didn't work out but at least he tried. Thats what great GMs do they are willing to take risks, the Wings aren't a small market team and they shouldn't be run like one, our owner is willing to pay everything just to win with an almost blank cheque I simply expect better than bringing back Alfie and some patchwork signings come July 1. Holland once was regarded as the best GM in hockey time to prove it..

 

Also capspace is useless if you don't use it, is Niskanen worth 5,5 to 6 per ? Probably not but overpaying is part of UFA and trade deadline other GMs like Chiarelli, Lombardi and Bowman are ok with it, but Kenny seems to have a hard time adopting to this. Like some others I'm starting to believe  Lidström did not even make the team as a whole better he also made Holland better than he might be.

 

The leadership on this group is more than fine, when you have Z, Pasha, Kronwall that's enough to show the young kids how stuff gets done and how to handle themself. Alfie at least for me deserves to retire in Ottawa this team isn't going to compete for the cup anytime soon..so I don't understand this signing at all.




#2525426 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by Richdg on 24 June 2014 - 08:23 AM

For three years now we have been ravaged by injuries. So what is our answer? Bring back more of the same old broken down players that just don't have it any more and expect different results. Before the puck even drops we already have 100 man games lost to injuries. The combo of datsyuk, Z, Alfie, Franzen, Helm, and Alfie once it is official will combine to miss 100 games. At some point the GM needs to be held accountable for the injuries due to the fact he is the one bringing in broken down bodies. if Cleary returns there is another 20+ man games lost. That is before any of the other players get hurt which of course some will. So here we are on June 24th and we can expect another 200 man games lost do to injury and we are not even to training camp yet. Great times to be a Red Wing Fan! Maybe a name change is in order. The Red Cross Wings..........




#2525423 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by DeGraa55 on 24 June 2014 - 07:58 AM

Btw I'm clearly against bringing him back but are people really worried about the cap hit? Lol. It doesn't matter if he signs for 1m or 10m. We won't be close to the ceiling cause KH won't sign or trade for anyone.

I'm against it because he takes a valuable roster spot. I'd rather jurco be playing than him for example.


#2525358 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by WingsallTheway on 23 June 2014 - 06:42 PM

Not pumped about this at all.

 

He was extremely ineffective for long stretches of the season and now hes just a year older, with a bad back.

 

This off -season is looking more and more like its going to be the same old stuff. Excited to see which fringe NHLer 6th pairing defenceman we will be signing next