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#2623513 Getting bigger.

Posted by Rivalred on 19 August 2015 - 11:42 AM

Franzen was a beast in front of the net back in the day and took a serious beating. He was the last true power forward we had even though he didn't fight which imo doesn't make somebody a power forward

Homer took a beating in front of the next and along the boards more than Franzen

Just wanted to point this out.... Don't know if Franzen can be labeled a power forward

#2623472 Getting bigger.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 19 August 2015 - 10:02 AM

This is a little misleading.  A lot of these prospects aren't known for physicality and many of them are Euros.  Being tall by itself doesn't make you a force to play against.    


For instance, Drew Miller is 6'2, but he's not a tougher physical presence than the much shorter Tootoo.  Franzen is 6'3, but has always played like a wuss.  Guys like Callahan and Ferraro are barely 6'0 tall, and they play a physical style.  

#2622955 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by MrazekFanBoy on 12 August 2015 - 07:29 AM

Get ready to have the best power play in the league boys https://m.youtube.co...h?v=uSePqW9wXfM

#2622909 Nashville to wear gold helmets for Saturday games in 2015/2016

Posted by PredsFanTheBayouState on 11 August 2015 - 06:14 PM

Ugliest uniforms in the NHL just got uglier.

oh,please there have been more uglier uniforms in past years than the preds uniform.

#2622839 Las Vegas rumored to get an expansion team

Posted by Shinzaki on 11 August 2015 - 10:16 AM

hunter...you are arguing image vs reality.  You imagine that Vegas offers some unique cornucopia of sin and temptation that is going to be overwhelming to these impressionable young men.  It's hogwash...bunkum..I'd ever go so far as to say it's pure unadulterated hokum.  Yeah...I went there.  Prostitution is as illegal in Vegas as it is Detroit....who cares?  If these guys want to find a quick hook up, there's ample opportunity everywhere.....EVERYWHERE


Yes..Vegas will have sports books and no other state outside of Delaware does...what difference does that actually make?   There are other forms of gambling via casinos everywhere  (AGAIN... OUR OWNER HAS A CASINO) hell...you or I could fire up the smartphone and gamble online...who cares?   If a player is going to be susceptible to gambling issues, he will be just as susceptible in Detroit as Vegas.


Your fixation with Vegas as some hotbed of sin that you must protect these fine young men from is so childish and naive that I find it amusing

You wouldn't know it by going there. I'm sure enough of you have been to know you can't swing a dead prostitute without hitting a prostitute in Vegas.

I don't have the economic knowledge to question the expansion from a business standpoint, but I hate the idea as a hockey fan.


Re prostitution...same can be said for any town that hosts conventions with any regularity.  

#2621839 Free agents this off season

Posted by e_prime on 30 July 2015 - 11:31 AM

Not a single one of those forwards interest me.  The only way I'm taking on a forward is if we move a couple and it's for an upgrade.

These guys just aren't going to make any difference.


On D, the only two I had any interest were Franson and Ehrhoff... but that was before we got Green.

The only way I'm interested in either of them now is if we could move Kindl and Ericsson's contract.  Which just ain't likely to happen.

#2621569 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by martinezsvsu on 25 July 2015 - 04:27 PM

I'm hoping that is an experiment we will see.
PP #1 Hank, Pav, Abby Kronner, Green
PP #2 Nyquist, Richards, Jurco, Dekeyser, Pulkkinen.

Its pretty good but could use some tatar sauce

#2621380 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by FlashyG on 23 July 2015 - 10:44 PM

There is nothing wrong with that, but some people are acting like he's some kind of goal scoring God who will score 40+ a year and anyone who disagrees is a hater.


Negativity and Pulkamania, 2 things that don't go together brother.




NHL...Whatcha gonna do when the Pulkster runs wild on you?

#2621376 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2015 - 07:04 PM

Well that someone isn't me... I do however believe he could potentially become a 25-30 goal scorer once he reaches his prime... that while not being a liability on the ice, like some people believe he is / will be... He's not nearly as bad defensively as some are claiming, and we don't need all defensive dynamos up front. We could however use a pure goal scorer with an unbelievable shot up front...

#2621323 Lovable Dan Cleary update thread

Posted by rick zombo on 23 July 2015 - 12:32 PM

I agree with Gretzky, Nyquist should have started that season in Detroit, also I agree last season, Jurco should've spent the year in GR, considering he had the exemption, he would've developed a little more to the NA game. Not that he would've been a big hit here, but we would have never lost Nestrasil for nothing.  Sure, the log jam this year would've been a body larger, but who knows...I know he wasn't a huge loss, but you guys know my disgust with losing someone or nothing.


ALTHOUGH, after Nyquist was called up he was the hottest scorer in the league practically, could you imagine the contract he'd have now (as opposed to $4.75M) if he had played that entire season and scored at that pace for 65-82 games?


Adam Gretz. Hockey writer.

#2621283 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2015 - 10:15 AM

kickazz, as I stated above, Pulkkinen isn't nearly as one-dimensional as some people claim. He works his ass off in all three zones, and he absolutely does back-check. Chances are he's not going to be a Selke candidate or anything, but it's not like he watches the play go the other way and just coasts back... All of this "one-dimensional" bullsh*t is exactly that... bullsh*t. People think just because he was an offensive machine in the American League, he doesn't get involved on the defensive side of things. That simply isn't true...


Not a single person is saying that Pulkkinen should get 19 minutes a night against the other teams top lines. As far as I know, everyone including myself think he should and are expecting him to get 3rd line minutes and along with the power-play. My bet is, Pulkkinen is no worse than Nyquist or Tatar defensively or on the back-check when they first entered the league. Both are probably better at this point, and like them, Pulkkinen will improve in that area as well...

#2621266 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by Helmethead on 23 July 2015 - 09:38 AM

To change things a bit...do you guys think that Larkin has a legit chance of making the opening night roster? Dats is out until December by the sounds of it. If Larkin has a great camp and tears it up in the exhibition games, I think he should make the team. Other years I recall Tatar and Nyquist having good camps but not making the team. This year Kenny sounds different. I think Larkin has a real chance of making the team if he is indeed ready and deserves it.

I was thinking of some potential lines...


#2621252 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by Dabura on 22 July 2015 - 11:50 PM

We're not going to get a Buffy-level player for him, despite what some people think.


I'm assuming "Buffy" = Byfuglien...?


If the Jets do move Byfuglien, it probably won't be for all that much, as he's on an expiring contract and he's going to Get Paid next summer (so, you can trade for him, but don't expect to have a shot at keeping him past 2016 if you're not willing to give him big money and long term. And even if you do offer him big money and long term, there'll be other teams offering just as much as you're offering, if not more.)


This piece, written by a knowledgeable Jets fan for a knowledgeable Jets community [Note: I'm not implying that you folks aren't knowledgeable], suggests a realistic return might be Pulkkinen and a defenseman...


Detroit seems to be an ideal destination for all parties. Detroit is insanely deep with left handed defensemen and could use another righty. This trade makes a ton of sense for both the Jets and Red Wings. For a trade of Dustin Byfuglien to Detroit to go through, the Red Wings would probably offer Teemu Pulkkinen and maybe a defensive prospect like Xavier Ouellet.


Believe it or not, I wouldn't necessarily pull that trigger. While I really, really, really, really, really want to see us swing a trade for Byfuglien, and while it's fashionable to say Pulkkinen isn't going to be an impact player at the NHL level because "zomg he's one-dimensional," moving two of our better young assets for only one guaranteed year (or less) of Byfuglien would not be a total no-brainer.


And, about Pulkkinen: he shoots, he scores. He puts up points. I like points. I like scoring. Every team needs producers, us more than most (especially at even strength, where we're absolutely toothless). Five goals in 30 games projects to about 12 goals over a full season. If we assume he plays good minutes with quality linemates for a full season and that he takes even just the slightest step forward in his development, he's probably good for 15-20 next season (2015-16). 15-20 goals for $735,000 is the kind of bang-for-your-buck you need if you're going to build a serious contender with staying power. If he becomes the power play hammer of death we all know he can be, 25 goals isn't out of the question.


Again, the kid scores. He lives to score. He loves to score. He's gifted. It's not like "Yeah, well, he's not gonna have time to get his shot off, and NHL goalies are the best, so he's not gonna score. He's just so one-dimensional." I love one-dimensional. I want one-dimensional. We have more than enough 200-foot players who can play all four positions at the same time and backcheck in their sleep. Give me a specialist who specializes in something as amusingly trivial as putting the puck in the other team's net. ("When would would we ever have a need for that?") I'm not saying all this as an argument against pursuing Byfuglien. (Byfuglien puts up points. I like points. I especially like defensemen who put up points. I super-especially like defensemen who play against the opposition's best players every night and still manage to put up points.) I'm saying we shouldn't knock Pulkkinen when he's obliterated the AHL and played in fewer than 40 NHL games.

#2621238 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by GoWings1905 on 22 July 2015 - 08:05 PM

Yes... Join the haters. We have cake.

Yup, I hate a player that wears the uniform of my favorite team. That was clearly what I was getting at in my post. God forbid anyone has a dissenting opinion about a player on a discussion board.

#2621217 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by Buppy on 22 July 2015 - 03:02 PM

Stats don't tell the whole story. Tatar and Nyquist can drive the play. Pulkkinen doesn't.

Typical vague nonsense that people like to resort to when the stats are against them. How am I supposed to debate that? Yes he does? As riveting as a good "can to/can not" exchange would be, I think I'll pass. I suspect "drive the play" just means whatever you think you can describe that Pulkkinen doesn't do well, but Nyquist and Tatar do.


The thing with un-quantifiable metrics is that they don't mean anything until they're translated to something you can quantify. Tatar and Nyquist can drive the s*** out of a play like no one ever has, does, or ever will again, and if it doesn't result in anything measurable than it's worthless. But even that didn't happen. We weren't all sitting around watching Nyquist score 3g and 6p in 22 games, saying, "Damn, did you see him drive that play? That was some play driving right there! That play got it's ass drove off!".


They didn't step into the NHL and play like 30g scorers from day one, but get really unlucky with the puck just not going in. They played, looked good at times, poor at times, but mostly unnoticeable except in that people who were excited to see them payed them special attention. Not at all unlike Pulkkinen. Then with more time and experience they improved. Made better decisions, quicker decisions, adjusted to the competition...the way most young players do. 


Will Pulkkinen be able to adjust and improve? That's always the question. Could ask the same of any our prospects. But is it possible he could? Absolutely.