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#2189314 2011 NHL Draft: Round 1 Discussion

Posted by Z and D for the C on 24 June 2011 - 10:06 PM

Yippief****** doo....

This is supposed to be the best off season the Wings have had in a long LONG time and Holland has done nothing so far... Oooo, I am gonna make some trades on draft day, Oooo we are gonna make some deals... Strike one Holland....Strike One.... tomorrow is another swing at bat....July 1st is your last swing.... Do not strike out.... yet again.

Very disappointed thus far with Holland...


Jesus Christ it's not even July 1st and you're saying you're disappointed with Holland because he traded onef****** pick away? Get a grip, dude.

And what the f*** are you going to do with Holland gets THREE STRIKES! lol


#2189276 2011 NHL Draft: Round 1 Discussion

Posted by Johnny Diamonds on 24 June 2011 - 09:48 PM

Florida is willing to take Campbell's contract from Chicago. WTH.

If that happens Chicago can go after almost anyone. The Sharks have Burns now. And we lost a top 4 dman...we need to get going.

EDIT: Apparently I'm late with these thoughts. See above.


I'm sorry, I'm not gonna play part in the sheeple "I trust in Kenny garbage anymore." It was he himself who has stated "the time to make trades is during the draft. And if they were gonna make a trade it would be in the draft." Watch that interview with Art Regner and you hear it out of his mouth. He fell asleep at the wheel and other teams have 1uped him whether people here wanna admit it or not.


#2187832 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by ShanahanMan on 22 June 2011 - 08:30 AM

How much was Modano's contract again? I forgot he was supposed to come in and be a ppg player. 7 points in 20 games which included gelling with a new team and new system. I'm sorry he was a depth signing he was suppose to come in and try to put up around 40 points which if he got comfortable I bet could have happened.
Also richards bieksa and Wiz... Do you want to be the
one to tell lidstrom ge HAS to retire next season because we have all if our Money locked up on those guys and won't be able to give raises to kronwall and others. Yes we would all love all the best players in free agency but sorry richards 80-90 points for 7.5 million < jagr 40-50 points at
2 million... Which is nicer on the cap and allows us to fix our D situation while not handcuffing our self next season?


Sure, sure. Modano WOULD have had 40 points, WOULD have put up a fair share of goals, WOULD have saved the team. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Fact is, he stunk and was benched for a reason.

40-50 points for a guy who is 39 and hasn't played in the NHL in 3 years? Are you serious? We'd be LUCKY if he broke 20, with maybe 7 of those points being goals.

Jeez, can Holland not pick up someone in free agency over 36 for once?


#2187810 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by Crashnburnluder on 22 June 2011 - 06:51 AM

Um...Modano had 7 points in 20 games before his injury. He was contributing very little and probably would have continued producing very little, whether the injury happened or not. No matter how you look at it, it was a bad signing. Now we're gonna throw two million at another aging vet and pray the same situation doesn't happen again? Thats just unbelivable. We need to be adding faster, younger guys....not slower, older ones. Especially considering the pace of the game is faster than ever.

I just can't believe Holland is ready to and willing to make the same mistake twice in a row.


Richards, Bieksa, and Wisniewski = cup


How much was Modano's contract again? I forgot he was supposed to come in and be a ppg player. 7 points in 20 games which included gelling with a new team and new system. I'm sorry he was a depth signing he was suppose to come in and try to put up around 40 points which if he got comfortable I bet could have happened.

Also richards bieksa and Wiz... Do you want to be the one to tell lidstrom ge HAS to retire next season because we have all if our Money locked up on those guys and won't be able to give raises to kronwall and others. Yes we would all love all the best players in free agency but sorry richards 80-90 points for 7.5 million < jagr 40-50 points at 2 million... Which is nicer on the cap and allows us to fix our D situation while not handcuffing our self next season?


#2187781 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by gcom007 on 22 June 2011 - 01:19 AM

Come on...as much as anyone can worry and speculate and feel uncomfortable about having Jagr on your team, it's impossible to not be somewhat excited about it as well. You're talking about one of the all time greats who has still looked good the last few years. And for either us or Pittsburgh, you're talking about playing him with a class of players that far exceed the quality of those found in the KHL.

Jagr and Datsyuk???

Of course Lidstrom is excited!

I get the reservations. I've got them too...plenty of them.

But come on...anyone who says that there's not at least a small (or large) part of them excited about the possibility of Jagr as a Wing is lying.

Modano would have worked out fine if not for the freak injury thing; he was obviously starting to get in a groove and meshing with the Wings.

But as good as Modano was, Jagr was much better - everything erodes over time, but Jagr's skills have a lot further to go downhill.


Lidstrom would be much more diplomatic if he was just being kind - "Well, the decision is of course up to Holland, but Jagr is obviously a great talent." - something like that. It honestly sounds like Nick would be excited to have him on the team.


I don't know how people continue to think they can logically justify the idea of the Modano signing being a mistake when a freak injury wholly and completely derailed his season. It's getting way past fuzzy logic and heading straight into "stupid" territory. No, make that "stoopid" territory. That's right...with two "O's."


#2187661 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by Crashnburnluder on 21 June 2011 - 06:31 PM

It's funny because all those players you mentioned were effective for the team prior to the lockout sans Drake and he was a different type of player. Jagr will not be the piece to bring a cup to Detroit.



and how many of these over the hill players did we sign since the lock out... 2?? Modano and Drake, Modano suffered what was basically a season ending injury. He came back with no confidence and a bum wrist and your going to bunch together every future over 35 signing with that now? Im sorry but all these young players with skill and upside and that can put up 50+ points a season come with A LOT bigger price tag and are usually part of the long term picture. The problem being is we can only have so many long term picture players. Datsyuk, Franzen, Zetterberg, and probably a guy like Filppula will be out long term guys. Guys like Jarnkrok, Tatar, Pulkkinen, Shehan, Nyquist, and who ever else will slowly start to infiltrate our line up, but instead you guys want to start locking up these players that are going to be over paid in Free Agency when they are going to be asking for 3-4 year deals. No thank you.

Ill take the guy that is 39, signing a one year deal for 2 million. THAT IS LESS THEN ERICCSON AND HUDLER! I dont care if the guy only puts up 30 points thats still better then what the other two are going to get paid and bring to the team.

As for Jagr and his 2 million dollars or whatever he does with it, I could careless. Babcock and Holladn would not be pursuing a guy if he thought he was going to be too much of a Cancer to deal with. Simple as that. I think a guy like Babcock and Holland who have coached against him, scouted him and talked to him over the phone and spoken to his previous coaches know a hell of a lot more then a lot of people on Letsgowings.com?

Im getting tired of the Over the Hill stuff, because its the guys that are over the hill that round out our roster, give us the experience we need in the playoffs and contribute in our cup runs, On and off the ice. Sorry last time I checked we won the cup 3 years ago, with a lot of over 35 year olds on the team, and last time i checked all those YOUNG teams that weren't a creation of the draft and sucked for years prior(Pittsburgh, Chicago) havn't been winning the cups lately. Yes Boston one, but I believe there was a certain Key "over the hill guy" that was a big influence to their roster. As did some others Conn Smythe winner Thomas (37) and Captain and Number 1 defenseman (34).

Yes, we would all love the Marchands and Seguins but they come with a very Hefty price tag.


#2187431 Lidstrom agrees to 1-year, $6.2m contract

Posted by Crymson on 21 June 2011 - 03:09 AM

lol @ Eva... "every non-first liner but Hudler is expendable!"


#2186751 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by robb himself on 18 June 2011 - 02:28 PM

trade Hudler for whatever we can get and let Jagr take his spot. But if we do not sign Jagr, sign someone like Jussi Jokinen.

I think Jagr on Datsyuk's wing would be crazy.


:thumbup:


#2185239 James Wisniewski

Posted by Datsyerberger on 14 June 2011 - 10:38 PM

esplain


Wiz pinches worse than Rafalski, tends to be lazier in the D zone, particularly with positioning (as opposed to Raffi, who had decent positioning and good skating [when he wasn't injured] but didn't have the tools to do much in most situations). He's about as bad one the giveaways (worse on passes, though doesn't cough up the puck physically as much due to his size/strength). He also takes way more lazy/dumb penalties. Not much more of a shot blocker, either.

Like I said, though, agree with the rest. Just don't expect Wiz to be much of a savior defensively.


#2185477 Babcock Interview + Jagr to Detroit Rumor

Posted by Casey on 15 June 2011 - 01:58 PM

I'd take Jagr over Hudler. :thumbs-up:


As would I. Offer him Hudler's pay!


#2185471 Babcock Interview + Jagr to Detroit Rumor

Posted by darkmanx on 15 June 2011 - 01:42 PM

I'd take Jagr over Hudler. :thumbs-up:


#2185345 Babcock Interview + Jagr to Detroit Rumor

Posted by Hatethedrake! on 15 June 2011 - 10:43 AM

Kenny should sign Jagr, Drury and Recchi. Put them all on the same line. They can be known as the DEPENDS line.


#2185337 Babcock Interview + Jagr to Detroit Rumor

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 15 June 2011 - 10:37 AM

HOW MANY TIMES AM I GOING TO HAVE THE USE THE DO NOT WANT DOG THIS MORNING?!

Really, though, I'm with Stevkrause - he'd be taking a spot away from someone more deserving / more desirable.

Like who? Emmerton? Hudler?

I don't want the Wings to sign Jagr for any amount of large money, but I'd take him for under 2.5 million on a one year deal.


#2185200 James Wisniewski

Posted by newfy on 14 June 2011 - 05:03 PM

I still think paying more than 4/4.5 for Wiz will be overpaying, but as long as we don't overpay too much, I'd be ok with us overpaying a little for him (maybe upwards of 5.5 at this point) and I think Wiz would be a great addition to the team...

I also want them to let Ericsson walk and this is coming from an Ericsson supporter. He is worth 1.5, but no more and I'd much rather have Steve Montador, than Ericsson at this point, even if we overpay for him to and it's at the same caphit (in all reality, Montador should be able to be had for about 1.75 or less)

4.5 million isnt overpaying I wouldnt say, that seems about fair value to me. He put up 51 points, is ahuge hitter/ can fight and he is better defensively than Rafalski. Rafalski was getting paid 6 million when the cap was lower. Wiz is only gonna get better.

The more I think about it the more I can see them sign him, I know people have heard he doesnt like the wings but ive also read he only said that because his blackhawk teammates would chirp him.

Adding him would give detroit one of, if not the hardest hitting defense in the league


#2185201 Scoring isn't really the Issue

Posted by pucktividi on 14 June 2011 - 05:18 PM

With all the respect to the OP...then how the hell we've lost 8 one goal games vs Sharks past 2 Playoffs?
Last year Howard wasn't good and Lebda and Meech were patrolling the blue line,but this year Jimmy was very good and our D men were solid so I'm totally with Babs on signing top 6 forward to provide us more scoring depth