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#2317579 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 11:43 PM

Nick Kypreos of Sportsnet.ca reported that Suter is leaning toward Detroit



http://www.mlive.com...ecisions_f.html

Damn cougar, you make this too easy!

Oh and the $110M offer? Flyers....with whom Parise said would never sign with and Suter said he wouldn't play in the East...so ya, they had to offer them a ton more to express their interest and try to lure them and change their minds....it's over centcouger, you lost this debate, lick your wounds and be happy that you are a fan of their hometown team...you lucked out.



awwww....cat got your tongue? Go home...


#2317574 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 11:30 PM

Nyquist is a good prospect, but a second liner at his very best. Mursak and Tatar aren't even fit to sharpen Granlund's skates, ask any pro scout. Nobody has a crystal ball. But everyone with an iota of experience dealing with hockey players and specifically prospects will tell you that the Wild have probably the single best prospect pool in all the NHL. Detroit? Middle of the road. And a large part of that rating is due to the history of having good prospects I'm sure.

It's funny you would mention your little "3 year window theory" again. I already discredited you in the last thread you posted that in. Given that you have no knowledge of the Minnesota Wild organization, it was not a difficult task either.

And yet, they are expendable in order to get one player nearly past his prime like Nash. But yeah, they are super good.


You truly do live in your own little world don't you?

http://www.hockeypro...rticleid=1347

Take a look at where the pro scouts rank the prospects...just keep quoting your 2009 prospect analysis...

You didn't discredit anyone...please indulge us...tell me how Granuts is going to blow away all of Getzky's records and lead Minny to 1900 straight Stanley Cups...Heatley is already being talked about in trade scenarios, plus you don't have to have knowledge of a organization when you have the internet..words dont lie, if the Wild dont win in 3 years, the ride starts all over!

Oh and about Tatar sharpening Grandrools skates...hmmmm, just checked the stats, your boy has never top 57 points EVER in his career, yet Tatar has twice PLUS has 3 years of North American hockey under his belt...your boy hasn't played here yet...hmmmm, not a fortune teller BUT he COULD be in for a bit of a shock...maybe, maybe not...point is, he hasn't proven anything and neither has Tatar, yet you are awarding your team the Cup based on him probing nothing so far and in the same sentence saying Detroit has no chance EVER because Tatar cannot sharpen skates? I can quote their stats for you if you'd like, but since you know everything about Detroit's prospects and organization, I will spare the rest of the users...

Then if I were you, I'd stay FAR away from Las Vegas haha

Well anyway.. For everyone's convenience, I bolded, italicized and increased font size of every statement in this reply that is a lie, based on facts. You can feel free to try and come up with a link for this stuff, but you will never find it because, well... It was never said or never happened or is just a straight up lie. You're making it too easy for me son.



Hmmm let's see:


He added that it was “very, very hard to leave” and “at the end it was between New Jersey and Minnesota. That’s what it came down to: just the idea of being able to come home and be around family.




http://www.nytimes.c...-with-wild.html

So since I just blew you out of the water with Parise, I will spare you the rest...and I found this in one google search....too easy SON!

Lamoriello said that Parise told him “if he wasn’t going home to Minnesota he would be coming to New Jersey. It was one of the toughest decisions he said he had to make. I respect that.”


I'll put this one in just in case you cannot read...


#2317560 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 10:54 PM

Yeah, and I COULD titty f*** the s*** out of Kate Upton tomorrow, but I doubt it'll happen.


Yet you seem to be able to tell the future of hockey....I bet the kate upton thing happens before the Wild win a Cup...

No Kidding. Couldn't even get in the room to talk to Justin Schultz


I'm sorry? I know Detroit is close to Canada, but it's not IN Canada...didn't see the Wild on the short list either, maybe because they aren't in Canada?

Overpaying? At $7.5 Million each? They were getting $110 Million dollar offers elsewhere. I call that a pretty damn good deal especially when they are far and away the top 2 guys in the free agent market.


$110M offer from teams that had no chance to sign them, but offered them the world to try to sway them...again you seem to be omitting the part about family. Parise "If it weren't for family I'd be back in NJ..." Suter "I was leaning towards Detroit but decided to play where my family is" I hate to break it to you, but Minny ONLY got them because of family, they said themselves. I said it before, if their families lived in Seattle, WA they'd be playing for the Canucks...if they were from Fort Lauderdale, they be Panthers...what part of that do yo not understand? They didn't go to Minny because of their great team or stellar future...THEY WENT FOR FAMILY! And it took MORE money to get them there! Hey, if their families were from Ann Arbor, MI. guess where they'd be playing? Are you 12?


#2317558 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 10:43 PM

Hold on now!

Everyone Hold On!

I admit, I want Holland to trade some of the yoots to get Ryan or Nash or Yandle...but just a minute centcougar. Some of us have said, the yoot movement will not work, they are too green, but there are some who say, they a really good and should be given a chance to prove themselves...ok, nobody knows which side will be correct in the end, but I'll be damned if another teams fan is going to come in here saying Detroit has noone to replace Lidstrom or Stuart and Brunner is the biggest signing so Wings are gonna suck because of their unproven talent....HUH!?!? All this from a guy who touts the Wild's awesome future based on what? Unproven talent! Sure Mikail Granule of Salt is a very VERY good prospect, but so is Nyquist, so is Tatar, so is Mursak... You come in here and say Detroit needs to replace all these guys in order to be good, yet you tout the Wild as perennial Stanley Cup Champs because of unproven NHL talent... Your kid Granook or whatever the hell name it is, has yet to prove anything in the NHL, he could flop or he could excel! NOBODY knows! So don't come in here saying you KNOW that Nyquist or Smith or Brunner are going to flop and the team is gonna suck if Holland doesn't make some moves to get established guys...How dare you! Like I said, your Wild has a 3 year window and its over....you'll say goodbye to Heatley, The Gooch, Clutterbuck soon, you may not even keep your goalie...Your yoots may flop out because they cannot handle the NHL, NOBODY knows what a player is going to bring until they bring it...let's talk next July after we see who is good and who isn't!

and for your Young Guns analogy, I wouldn't give a drop of sweat off the guys ******* that made that bucket that I am going to piss in for YOUR future...

and before you go quoting me saying trade Mursak, trade Tatar, etc...I never said they weren't NHL ready...I said we have plenty of talent to replace them if they were needed to acquire Nash or Ryan...

It's funny how you come here and say one team is gonna suck because of unproven, yet highly touted talent and in the same s*** soiled breath you say another will be Champs with unproven, yet highly touted talent! I pity whoever marries you and if you have children, what's next you voted for the war, now you are against it? Let me quote another movie "Do us a favor, make like a tree and get out of here!"


#2317473 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 07:05 PM

What about Bogosian? I'd trade some yoot's for him...


#2317435 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 06:16 PM

Shane Doan's agent, Terry Bross, said not only have #Blackhawks contacted them, but also that Doan has interest in joining Hawks.

BLAH!!!! Don't do it Shane!


#2317427 PK Subban for Flippula and Tatar?

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 06:12 PM

If I am trading Flip, it's for Ryan or Nash...


#2317414 How bad are we if our roster is now finalized?

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 05:57 PM

A lot of you guys are in denial it seems. You speak as if Z and Dats were in their 20's still. They're aging forwards who will NEVER put up the numbers they once had, so don't expect them to.

Can you last remember when a team with a core of mid 30 year olds won a cup?

Without a talented youth injection, there is zero hope for us. This is simply not a playoff team.


Hmmmm....it's kind of hard to find one.....hmmmm.....


Igor Larionov 41
Chris Chelios 40
Brett Hull 37
Dominik Hasek 37
Steve Yzerman 36
Steve Duchesne 36
Luc Robitaille 35
Fredrik Olausson 35
Brent Gilchrist 34
Brendan Shanahan 33
Sergei Fedorov 32
Nicklas Lidstrom 31
Kris Draper 30


Man, these guys were old! I know they are mostly HOF's, but you asked if we remembered the last time a team with the core of mid 30's won a Cup.....


#2317400 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 05:33 PM

If they get Doan, could you imagine the energy this line would have?


Doan - Helm - Tootoo


They'd probably never assemble that line, but yikes!

He is over 35 that is when Kenny over pays so no worries there...


Well in this case, that would be good! Kubina is next....I have no doubt...


#2317398 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 05:28 PM


Helene St. James@HeleneStJames
Terry Bross, agent for UFA F Shane Doan, tells Detroit Free Press: "Shane has interest in Detroit." Has heard from Wings today.



I would say this is very interesting! I hope Holland doesn't low ball him.....


Not even close for Ryan.


Sorry....how about Datsyuk/Zettterberg/Filppula/Smith/ Seven 1st round picks....


#2317298 Hockey Prospectus

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 11:36 AM

Uh oh....cue the centcougar sighting in 3...2...1...


#2317295 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 11:32 AM

Which is why Holland should make a deal for Ryan...he would start the next generation. He may influence the likes of Getzlaf and/or Perry next July...Same could be said about Nash too, he would have some influence throughout the league as well...one would think..


#2317163 Bob Probert: 2 Years Ago Today

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 10:32 PM

Had the pleasure of meeting him plenty of times...the year he came back and couldn't travel to Canada, he would always come to DTW and fly out to meet the team, I may have been a bit of a stalker, but I would check the flights to see which one he was on and always "ran into him" there. It got to the point to where if I missed him one time, he's ask me the next time I saw him, what happened... Great Great Guy, depsite all his personal issues...wish he never left us for Chicago and I sure wish he never "left" us for Heaven... I love ya Bob, sorry you never got to drive the electric cart! :lol:


#2317158 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 10:18 PM

Here is the offseason of choice after being one of the snubbed teams by Mary Kate and Ashley:

Shane Doan

Peter Mueller

Pavel Kubina

Trade, waive or do whatever to make rosters spots for these three and let's rock!


I really do wish Holland had the balls to trade Filpulla for Ryan and also trade Franzine for someone else of value! But I'd be happy with just the Ryan trade and the above three UFA signings...


#2317155 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 09:53 PM

Saying Val Filppula is a wash with Bobby Ryan, you are on crack....Hey, maybe they'll trade us Ryan and a 1st rounder for Flip?

Here's the problem, sure Flip and Ryan are the main cogs, but Holland will have to sweetin the deal in order to secure him. Throwing in two NHL ready prospects and a pick should more than entice Murray enough to trade Ryan to us...not unless Columbus offers them Rick Nash...

Everything I have said is all speculation, of course, I do not know Mr. Murray, but he had said he wants a 2nd line center and some young talent...Could there be other teams with 2nd line centers they are willing to trade? Of course! I maintain that Holland has the trump in Filppula though, because of Selanne wanting to play with Flip in the NHL. He was asked last trade deadline if he would like to play with Flip and he said that when they play together on team Finland, they have great chemistry and he would enjoy playing in the NHL with him. Selanne has said he'd like to come back for another year and of course he only wants to play in Anaheim. Couple all that together and it's almost like a marriage made in Heaven. Murray gets Flip AND Selanne...PLUS he gets two NHL ready prospects AND a pick...We get Bobby Ryan, 24 year old phenom who is signed for three more years at a great rate and who will help usher in the next 20 years of dominance! We get younger, get a player at a position WE NEED, they get a player at a position THEY NEED and all are happy...

Both sides would be crazy not to do this deal....Now, not unless Holland wants Nash more than Ryan, then we are talking a whole new ballgame!