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#2370816 Holland with Micky/Kenny...

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

No GM in his right mind would speak out the truth to the media. As a GM part of your job is to keep your cards close and play them when the time is right. So I guess Kenny will look at the team before the trade deadline and then decide if it is better to be buyers or sellers. Personally I hope they are going to sell, a view first round and second round picks in a deep draft might be exactly what the doctor ordered for the Detroit Red Wings.


You know, I can agree with you here. I am thinking it doesn't always have to be a player coming back to us in a trade it could be a pick.  If Quincey and Gausted are worth 1st round picks to teams in need, then why wouldn't Filppula bring us a 1st round pick from a playoff team in need of a center?  Lets say Vancouver needs a center desperately (like they do) and offer Holland their 1st round pick for him? It may be a 25 or higher pick, but couple that with our (what may be) 25 or lower pick and we have two great players right there... What if Anaheim offered a 2nd for him, then Vancouver felt the need to outbid Anaheim? We could always stockpile high picks this year and go for a UFA come summer.


(I know Q filed arbitration so he couldn't have been offered a sheet from someone else, but it sure would have been nice to see him go somewhere else for his $3.75M and get that 1st and 3rd in return! Imagine that! If we got those picks for him, then traded Fil for a 1st, we'd have 3 1st rounders, and 2 3rd rounders....nice! I will settle for 2 1st's!)

#2370763 Next 5 games could define season.

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 March 2013 - 02:25 PM

ya, 7 points in 6 games sounds better...that's over .500 and if that pace is kept up, we should at least keep the playoff streak alive!


(thankfully we don't have to play Columbus anymore....do we?)


I don't know about you guys, but I am sure hoping for a Det v. Van 1st round matchup!

#2370753 BOG Approves realignment, Detroit to the East in 2013/14.

Posted by LeftWinger on 18 March 2013 - 02:10 PM

Regarding naming the division (although they will probably go with standard Southeast, Central, etc...) I think they should be traditional and name them after great pioneers of the NHL....and I don't mean Norris, Smythe et al.  I mean Like Lafleur, Orr, Howe, Gretzky, Richard, Bowman, Brooks....


...anyone of those I would be fine with. But we will be stuck with Central, Northeast, etc...

#2370566 Trading Filppula

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

Keep in mind though that he's only played 22 games. While it looks like a big difference when you extrapolate to a full season, right now it's only 3-5 points. Considering he's had next to nothing to work with on the PP, and was missing practices early in the year due to a nagging injury, that shouldn't be unexpected.


Not likely. Most deadline deals tend to be picks/prospects for roster players. Something like you suggest would have been more likely in the summer. We'd have to find someone looking to dump salary for next year, and dump players usually aren't all that good.


Our best return would probably come from someone actually looking for a rental. Chicago and Vancouver stand out, as both are looking for centers and both are already near the cap next year. Vancouver could make some moves to keep him long-term if they wanted, Hawks would probably trade his rights at the draft. I'd want something like a 1st and 3rd from them for him, maybe a 4th from the Canucks. It might then be possible to flip that 1st plus Gus for a sniper.


I would take Burrows from Vancouver whenever they are ready.  They can have Flip and Franzine...

#2370556 WMU's season.....

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 March 2013 - 05:31 PM

I have been beating this drum since my buddy dated Dan's sister last year at this time...I seriously hope this is about to happen!  Having Him, Smith and McKee all playing together is a huge ego boost for all NCAA defensemen!  I STILL want Holland to acquire Welsh from Carolina to put up front!


You may or may not realize that I am partial to NCAA players.... :lol:

#2370524 Datsyuk Leaving?!

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 March 2013 - 02:10 PM

Here's a thought:  Can Mr. I just foot the bill to move the entire city that Pavel's daughter lives in to somewhere in Michigan?  Instead of Pavel going back to Russia, let's bring Russia to him.



I am sure that is something Mr. Orr would consider in his Emergency Plan for the city. Create a small area of Detroit for Russian immigrants. We already have Greek Town, Mexican Town, Hamtramck....why not a Russian sect to the city? Belle Isle anyone?

#2370516 Brunner downgraded to the third line!?

Posted by LeftWinger on 17 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

Well, what is being lost in this discussion is that finally Dan Cleary has been put back on the 3rd line!

#2368339 Bertuzzi's continuing back problems

Posted by LeftWinger on 13 March 2013 - 11:09 AM

Bert and Sammy are washed up now. Thank Goodness that with this being a half of year of play, it still counts as a full year off their contracts. Bet should be buried on the LTIR and Sammy should get bought out next year.  Add Colaiacovo to that buyout and we can have enough roster spots to start this rebuild right away and not have to wait until 2015...

#2368216 Babs: " ....the players decide who plays, not me...."

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 March 2013 - 10:10 PM

...ya ok coach...too bad the players don't decide which line to play on...that's all you baby. Get yer head out of yer ass!

#2368203 2013/2014 lineup, Amnesty, Cap

Posted by LeftWinger on 12 March 2013 - 09:46 PM

this is gonna be a really deep draft i dont wanna get rid of our 1st round pick for any ufa


Ya, I said in my first post yesterday that the only way I would be ok with dealing our 1st is if we got a their 1st back (which should be a lower pick, but with the players available, we should still get a nice player.)  But I agree, I do not want to just give our 1st away either...

Perry won't sign for $6m, and this team won't be paying him $8m.


You are correct about the $6 and you may be right about the $8, but as soon as Holland realizes he needs to spend real money to get real talent, then this team will start it's turn around much quicker. Enough overpaying old guys and low balling the guys we actually need...

#2367732 3/10 GDT : Blue Jackets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 March 2013 - 08:02 AM

Here is some good news guys.  Even though we are unable to beat the lowly Blue Jackets, with 28 points the Wings still sit 3rd in points in the West and 4th in playoff positioning. It could be a whole lot worse....we could be in the East right now where we wouldn't even be in the playoffs and we would be 5th in the division behind MTL, TOR, BOS, OTT....we'd still be ahead of TPA and FLA, but yikes! Ken Holland better soup up this team and do it quickly, because it is going to be twice as hard to make the playoffs in our new conference next season!

#2367726 3/10 GDT : Blue Jackets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 March 2013 - 07:05 AM

I am also looking forward to the mass exodus of bandwagon fans that have jumped on board over the last 20 years.  Having gone to Ferris back in the mid 90s, I fell in love with that hockey team and they were not that good.  Still, the 2,000 fans that showed up to the games were enjoyable to watch the game with.  They were knowledgeable and appreciative of what the team brought every night.  Sure, they weren't a 1st place team, but hell they worked hard and the fans appreciated it. 


When they had a great season in 2003 and won the CCHA title, the morons came out of the woodwork the next year.  The arena was sold out every night, but talking with these people were annoying.  They bitched non-stop about the team.  They bitched non-stop about the coaching staff.  It was less about enjoying the hockey game and all about a "what have you done for me" attitude.  After a down season, the morons went away and it was back to normal again.


So yes, Top 10 pick if they don't make the playoffs and we get to start the "fan" purge.


I agree, while it must of been nice being born with the Red Wings "silver spoon" in your mouth, a few years of humbling loses would do this fanbase well.  Don't get me wrong, I still want as many Cups as possible, but you never really appreciate the Cup until your team has fought long and hard to earn it. Not that they haven't earned this success in the last 20 years, BUT every season leading up to 1997, including the dark Dead Wings era, are what made that 1997 Cup the most memorable Cup of all of them.  If the Wings go another 10+ years without a sniff, I think it'll bring the bandwagon, spoiled, fans down a bit and really appreciate what it takes to 'build" a Champion, just like Brian Murray and Scotty Bowman did...

#2367696 Brunner to go with Tootoo and Tatar?

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 March 2013 - 08:47 PM

...wait, I though Datsyuk was already centering the 4th line...

#2367560 3/10 GDT : Blue Jackets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 March 2013 - 06:06 PM

How embarrassing the Joe is...are there more empty seats there than full? Not really, but sheesh!


Note to fans: If you aren't going to go to the game, don't buy the tickets. Then maybe some of us who can't go all the time, can go once in a while...

#2367213 3/9 GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blue Jackets 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 March 2013 - 07:17 PM

Didn't get to watch any of this game, but one thing is still glaring....We need scoring.  Sammy and Bert aren't gonna add enough to help (if they ever get healthy.) So it comes down to a trade. It the bottom line, even when we were doing so good the last few games, you cannot win enough if you only score 1-2 goals a game.


I have to say, it's pretty sad that the WIngs cannot beat this team, I don't know what it is.


ps.  It sickens me everytime I see Hossa celebrating a big game winning goal or hell even a goal...he should have been a Red Wing for life....


...anyway, this team is desperate for a scorer...so desperate that it is going to be expensive to acquire, but I say we need it, do it.  Nothing we have in the IR is going to turn the scoring around to where we score 3-4 goals a game instead of 1-2....