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disturbing that I read in a Detroit News articles today that Holland isn't exicted by the available UFA's this year and will likely not pursue anyone until he sees what is left in August and September...

"I've found there are two different (free-agency periods)," Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said. "From July 1 to July 7, you have the premium guys who are getting premium dollars.

"After that, you have guys who are waiting for deals."

The waiting strategy has actually worked for the Red Wings — Patrick Eaves, Ruslan Salei and Mike Modano were signed as the summer faded into early fall.

Really? This strategy has actually worked with Salei, Eaves and Modano? REALLY? Who the f*** are you trying to kid? Hey, Kenny, are you still competing for the Cup? NO! SO IT DIDN'Tf****** WORK! God Damn I am so sick and tired of Holland and his "holier than thou" GM skills! You got bounced two years straight in the second round BY THE SAME TEAM!!!! MAKE SOMEf****** CHANGES! But Nooooooooooo! Holland is gonna let ALL the good UFA's walk elsewhere ON THE CHEAP none-the-less, then he will re-sign Fetisov for a comeback tour! Holland knows how to negotiate a contract, BUT HE IS FAR FROM THE BEST GM IN THE LEAGUE! For every example of Holland finding a late round gem, I can give you an example of another team finding someone just as good if not better! And if someone even mentions Ericsson......


From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/a...s#ixzz1N1c0mUSg

Perhaps the same reason Crosby name is the only one on the Cup is the same reason the NHL refuses to let Phoenix move.... What the NHL wants, the NHL gets. Playing or not, Crosby is still their poster child. Yes, he is up there in PPG, but he is FAR FAR FAR from the most complete player in the league.  I for one am sorry he got hurt to the point that he may not play anymore, BUT I am glad that his name won;t be jammed down our throats anymore if he doesn't return. (although sometimes I think Carmen would like Crosby down his throat.) Anyhow, I would like to see this commercial myself, but I don't care if they show his name, because Lidstrom's, name is on there 3 more times than his! We know it, the NHL knows it, and unfortunately as hard as the NHL tries to deny the fact that the Red Wings ARE the best thing in hockey, everyone knows the truth. Show Sid all you want, he will never have more Cups than Nick Lidstrom.....take that to the bank! Oooooooh Yeaaaaaahhh! (RIP Macho Man!)

Other than those three, there are Wisniewski, White, Babchuk, and Clitsome as notable under-30 UFA defensemen.

Let Salei and Ericsson seek other employment and pursue Wisniewski hard and Babchuk as insurance.  That'll limit Kindl's numbers, but it keeps Smith in GRR for another full season of 30+ minute hockey...

I think there's always that chance of his rights being dealt before or at the draft, without ever having donned a NYI jersey, however, being a full year removed from NHL action and having a poor World's probably lowered his trade value, so they may want to keep him and see if they can't up his value... never know though...

putting my Hudler hatred aside, I think it would be an even swap for Nabokov if the Wings gave up Hudler.  I don't see Snow asking for too much more than a mid twenty's forward with the POTENTIAL of getting 70 points per season....

If Bettman moves ANY other team than Detroit east, he better NEVER set foot in Michigan again! He wouldn't make it back out! (alive at least)


Moving Nashville to the East is as about as stupid as keeping Detroit in the West.... But since the NHL is run by idiots, I wouldn't be surprised if the moved The Kings to the East....

You have a context issue.

The full quote is:


But the two parts you brought up should be pulled out as such:




He's basically saying that he didn't feel that the existing situation in Detroit would allow him to develop to the level he wants to be at, and to develop into a player who can be relied upon by his team for offense. It's not "I should have been given 20 minutes a game in all of the best situations."

Well, then let him go to another team where he can develop to the level he wants to be at. He is not gonna be that player here.  See ya later Hudler!  I hope beyond hope that he goes somewhere and becomes a great player. He just isn't gonna do that here, he has been given chances from line 1 to line 4, he stunk... Give it up, it's over, let go, nobody listen's to techno...

Can't think, too many cups in my ears.

ya, and only 1, ONE of those Cups were won with small skilled forwards. So take your head out of your other ear so you can hear. Oh, and on that Cup team, the two recently drafted forwards to actually contribute? Abdelkader and Helm, far from your small, skilled, soft player.  Example of a player who was that way? Ritola, and he contributed himself right off the team. The list of small, soft players Holland has drafted goes on, and for the most part the have yet too, and may never make this team. I get the shakes when I think of this team when the grittiest player is Datsyuk.  Image this line, Mursak - Hudler - Tatar. EEEEEEGAD! Listen, I don't claim to know as much as Holland, but as a fan of this team since 1979, I have seen the makeup change a few times, and right now, this team is FAR from winning another Cup, especially if they don't get bigger and tougher. I am not saying a team full of enforcers, but a team full of Hudler's and Mursak's isn't gonna win you a Cup. I just hope that Holland trends the way of Sheahan rather that the way of Hudler...

edit: You Avatar says it all...unfortunately...Of course I can deal with Filppula as long as he plays on Datsyuk's wing. Holmstrom and Rafalski are here til the retire, Hudler...... Oh Father, Thou Art In Heaven, Please Tell Holland To Trade Hudler, Please....

I like Carcillo, but not enough to justify a trade, unless we were just dumping garbage of course.  

Hudler......

I have been mentioning Wisniewski for a few months now, and even though rumor says Montreal wants to negotiate with him, I will still want him here until he isn't available anymore! If he is gonna $4m, the Hoilland, make it so! With the Cap scheduled to increase and trading Hudler away along with giving some modest raises, $4M should be easy to take on...

I just checked out the may ISS ranking and saw Mark Mcneil at 20! This is my dream guy for the wings to draft, they should trade up for him if they need to but they need to get him.

81 points this year, a big hitter, good size at 6'2 and a good fighter although he doesnt fight a whole lot. A big right handed shooting centerman from western Canada is something I would love on the wings




If he is still around at 20 the wings need to get this guy, he is everything they need

with that being said, Holland will draft 5' 10" 165lb. Defender Hok Ptew out of the Swiss Army League.... (no offense to any Swiss we may have on this forum...)

http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/69502-two-year-plan/page__view__findpost__p__2170802

I am sorry, but any Wings roster with Hudler on it is NOT a step in the positive direction.  PLUS you actually re-signed him AGAIN at $3.25M? Sorry, but Hudler and the Wings are not good for each other.

I cannot comment of this topic because of my (well known) hatred for Hudler, I will just say I wish him a good future, just not as a Detroit Red Wings forward...

...I do get a chuckle at how many people have turned against Hudler, when it was but last summer that I amassed more than -95 user rating while I was expressing my views on him. Oh well, he could've proven his negative critics wrong, but failed to and actually amassed a lot more negative critics. Listening to 97.1 today, I couldn't believe all the folks calling in saying how its over for Hudler... To quote James Brown, "I feel Good!"

I do agree Holland doesn't have to balls to make a big trade. The problem is, and the worst thing that could've happened was the Wings forcing a game seven.  Now Holland is looking at it like, if we only had Franzen, if only Pav and Zetts were 100%, if Bert and Cleary didn't get hurt, blah blah blah! Thats all good, but in the end its gonna end up seeing the Wings ice the same team next year with the exception of Modano and possibly Salei... HE needs to get rid of Hudler, Ericsson, & Salei. Osgood and Modo should retire.  Try to get Nabokov to push Howard to the next level, because right now Howard knows there really isn't a ligit back-up and his job is safe.  Bring in Nabby for the back-up and if Howard doesn't improve even more next season, Nabby could come in and take that job. Lidstrom? Who knows about him, I just hope he decides before July 1st...

Holland please ditch Hudler! IF there was a trade on the table for him and Ericsson (it may have to be sweetened now) then do it. On the open market Ericsson will probably get 3-4 million, but he is not worth the huge cap hit here. Especially after this season and playoff...

4 power plays, 2 shots... Babcock made some bad line choices ZDH is no longer any good... I dont get his coaching decisions.  I feel sorry that the greatest American born player had to finish his career riding the pine....that is the reason he wasnt re-signed in Dallas.  He wasnt the best anymore, but he was better than Hudler and should've have been in every game instead of Hudler.

So what does an Orca have to do with the Canucks? Just because you may see some whales in the ocean? We got fish in the Detroit River, but I don't see people carrying around Carp Stuffies...

NHL can make another History Doesn't Surrender commercial !!  Only thing that I can wish for is for Thornton to get Kronwalled!

Maybe Thornton should take a car ride with Heatly.....ouch, that was uncalled for...forgive me...

******* crybaby goons....Really, Nichol trying to bait someone? Really? Homo Joe shows his true colors again! Such a Fine Canadian Boy! Canada should be ashamed of your antics!