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#2242525 Cherry rips Holland

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 10:56 PM

I'll just summarize the responses for you here:

Crymson: "NO! The Wings are perfect and Holland had nice hair! They do not need a tough guy."

Konnan: "You're all just xenophobic euro-haters. They score plenty of points with 'soft-euros'."

Various: "Fighting in hockey is useless. You should just watch UFC, you don't even like hockey."

Holland: "The right deal just wasn't available, but we're confident that some players will take that next step..."

You forgot the most important one:

"You don't like Hudler and Franzen? You are not a true Wings fan, why don't you go root for the Penguins?"

#2242524 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 10:54 PM

we needed him today and he wasn't there. Some sniper we have... He is worse than Hudler...

You mean like the one time he did that this season?

half his goals have come when we were already winning...not very clutch. Sorry, I just expect more from our "Sniper." He is supposed to be up there with the rest of the NHL snipers, he needs to score when the team needs it, like tonight! Very disappointed in Franzen I am. And we are stuck with him and that God awful contract....like forever.

You know he is horrible when it comes down to being clutch. He just floats around out there most nights and never shows up when needed....much like tonight.

#2242503 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 09:47 PM

It is funny how he gets ripped for that when he still has been leading the team in goals (and tied for second in points).

What does that say about the rest of the team when the inconsistent Franzen continues to lead in that category despite his poor recent play?

agreed. But sure needed him to put a goal in tonight, not when we are winning 5-0 already.

#2242502 Cherry rips Holland

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

Wings win. That's all that matters. Sounds like insecurities from him. Wings don't need a tough man to win. FACT.

Fact? Tell me one Stanley Cup they won without one? Sure they win in the regular season and give it a go in the playoffs, but where are the FACTS? I am not advocating an enforcer, just a tough guy who will fight when needed.

#2242332 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 07:40 PM

Corey Perry would help us right now.

Now would be a great time for our sniper to snipe away and score a couple...you hear me Franzen?

#2242247 Jiri Hudler Appreciation Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 06:48 PM

Now the question becomes, if he keeps playing like this and comes in around 55-60 points for the season...should we re-sign him and how much is $ is a reasonable contract?

No, we should NOT re-sign him. Either trade him or let him explore his UFA options. He no doubt will want way too much than he deserves, or what I want to see Holland pay.

#2242185 Flyers fans attack Rangers fans after Winter Classic

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 01:08 PM

I love the FB comment saying the guy licked his girlfriends ***! Well, it's all fun and game until a *** gets licked! I have been to plenty of "events" where drunk girls are whipping out there **** for one reason or another and for the most part they are accompanied by their boyfriends/husbands (or girlfriends, hey it's 2012) and there has been plenty of questionable touching, squeezing and yes licking. Not that it is alright to do this, but it happens and it happens a lot. Would he have reacted the same if another female licked her? Doubt it. So in a way I say he was a drunk idiot, but in another way, if this indeed happened maybe he was defending his girl in some manner. Maybe it wasn't about a Rangers fan vs. a Flyers fan, maybe chivalry isn't dead? I don't know, but I do know women like to expose themselves at celebrations for some reason and they have to expect certain things to happen in a drunk crowd. If the boyfriend is encouraging it, he has to expect it as well, but when the line gets crossed and at that point your woman feels violated then it was time to step up, and I have a feeling that this guy in the Rangers sweater wasn't just standing there not saying anything to the Flyers fan. It my woman even got touched in the wrong fashion, I don't care what sweater the guy was wearing, he is gonna get hit. First by my wife, then by me, if he is left standing after she hit him...

At least the guy defended his girl, it would have been sad if the Rangers fan got to lick the *** and then beat the hell out of the boyfriend...

I am not defending the violence, but I am just saying that if the licking happened then the Rangers fan had a beating coming...

#2242160 Realignment Not Occuring Next Year

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 10:52 AM


NHLPA statement.

Ok, fine, but what do you suggest then NHLPA? Keep Winnipeg in the East and Detroit and Columbus in the West and instead of evening out the travel schedule for all, lets just continue to punish a few teams that travel more than any other team in the league! I am waitng PA, let's see your proposal, if you didn't like the NHL's, then show us yours....simple. Unless you have something better, you are taking away from the fans who I do believe were 99.99999% on board with seeing every team in the league for the first time in a long long time.

I'd like to know who the whiny millionaire players who were concerned about their personal travel were? You play for the fans and the team, the more fans you make happy, the more money you get....cry me a river.

I didn't like the new realignment anyway, so it doesn't bother me the PA rejected it. The owners liked it because it meant they could raise ticket prices even more, with more out of Conference "elite games".

I'd like to see the PA crush the Owners this time, so Bettman is out the door. Time for some new blood. America has had 3 Presidents since Bettman took over. Imagine how sick of Clinton we'd be if he was still around?

Not as sick as if Bush were still around or if Obama gets re-elected...

Also, why doesn't the NHL just do what my place of business did when they had issues with the Union? They just did what they wanted and then dealt with the grievances later (which they won most of the time anyhow) and now I don't have a Union as these acts eventually broke the Union and now they just do what they want...Use the Dave Bing tactics.

#2242018 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 January 2012 - 05:09 PM

Franzen, Hudler, Kindl, Andresson, Ferraro, McCollum, Nestrasil, ANY of our D prospects. You just cannot pass on Perry or Getzlaf. I would acquire them both if I could. Ya, now I am dreaming in EA Sports land, but those two on Detroit would make us almost instant favorites, and face it, with the improvements Chicago and San Jose has done this year, Detroit needs to step it up and this would be a great move.

We have the Cap space for both, they are signed through next season. The Wings are over their head deep in great prospects and could easily afford to give up a few of them. McCollum is NOT going to be backup to Howard, he is going to want to be a starter in the NHL and will probably leave as a Free Agent before Howard is ready to give up the #1 spot, so you could easily trade McCollum especially with how good Mrazek is playing. Next season you will be shopping or a #1 defenseman, not another #7 so Kindl and the rest of the prospects are fair game. You could go down the list of top 25 prospects in our organization and chose three or four that you could really live without, so if losing Franzen & Hudler and prospects in exchange for Getzlaf and Perry, I am doing it. You have to ask yourself, if this trade were in the works, which Detroit team has a better chance to compete with Chicago/San Jose and actually win the Cup this year or next, the one with Franzen/Hudler on it, or the one with Getzlaf/Perry? Holland made a mistake in 2009 by letting Hudler handcuff him by coming back and re-signing Franzen. He lost Hossa who said he wanted to stay and would take considerably less to do so. Here is Holland chance to make ammends on that mistake, get rid of Franzen & Hudler and make his team much better and tougher to play against in the form of Getzlaf and Perry. That is a blockbuster trade that will workout for both teams. PLUS it allows Holland to just focus on replacing Lidstrom next year instead of trying to find that power forward and sniper along with a #1 defender.

I know it is hard to say goodbye to homegrown talent. Guys who have grown up in our system, but in the end, it's all about the crest on the front of the sweater. I hope Holland doesn't make the same mistakes he made in 2009 by passing on better players to keep Franzen & Hudler...

EDIT: Also, ask yourself this, who you rather have these two or would you rather see Chicago, San Jose, Vancouver or worse yet Pitt or Toronto or Boston get one or both of them? If that happens then you not only lose out on acquiring two great players, but you also take two steps back from being on par with the elite teams in the NHL.

#2241966 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 January 2012 - 01:07 PM

people forget that Mule is a BEAST in the playoffs when he is healthy. He has 72 points in 83 playoff games in his career. He was playing injured last year in the playoffs but here's his point total before that:

2008 18 in 16 games
2009 23 in 23 games
2010 16 in 12 games

Why would we even think of trading one of the top playoff performers in the league? Because he's streaky in the regular season? Are you people frickin crazy?

You have to give up something if you want something. In 2001 Holland traded away perhaps one of the best playoff performers AND prolific regular season scorer we had in order to get a goalie he felt we needed. He traded Kozlov AND a 1st for Hasek. I think an exchange that involved Franzen for either Getzlaf or Perry would be a great move. Franzen, Hudler and Kindl are three players from the big club who can and should be shopped come deadline day. If Holland could trade any combo these three plus prospects and get a Getzlaf and or Perry and or Ryan, then it is a no brainer...

#2241751 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 January 2012 - 11:54 AM

I might get flamed for this but I would make a package with Franzen.

Hes clutch yeah, but so Is Getzlaf. Getzlaf is only 26 and easily a top 5 center in the league, he isnt injury prone like Franzen is either and isnt locked into a long term contract.

Getzlaf plays solid defensively as well.

If you get flamed, then I am on fire with you! If this team had a chance to score any one f Getzlaf, Perry or Ryan, I would send Franzen packing in a heartbeat. Hey, Franzen may be our third best player right now, but he is in no way better than the fore mentioned Ducks. Perry just came of a Hart trophy for pete's sake! If we could package Franzen, Hudler and some prospects for two of them? Ok, I am gonna stop now because I am just getting carried away!

If you get flamed, it would be by big time homers.

I will bring the fired retardant clothes because trading Franzen for one of these guys would be worth the flaming!

#2241089 Henrik Sedin's Comments on Vancouver's Toughness

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 05:50 PM

Who is this anyone guy and where does he play? I understand he isn't gonna come out and say they are ballerina's but if Vancouver is tough, the Wings are Mike Tyson...

#2241065 Rupp 1st Goal, Then Salute at WC

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 04:40 PM

More than that, just be excited and celebrate the goal.

The salutes and pointing your stick like a gun and the like are all premeditated moves the player does to call attention to himself. I'd take a Patrick Eaves spontaneous excitement kind of celebration any day over that.

This is what I am saying. I am not saying do not celebrate your accomplishment, but all the staged antics and dances are annoying. Hey, let's pretend I am fishing after I make a tackle, let's do a salute (albeit a incorrect and almost pansy looking one) after I score a goal. I do not mind the pure excitement and celebration, but when a player in any sport does the same thing over and over (discount double check) it's like look at me, I am bigger than the game! Just freaking score and jump for excitement, don't put on the monkey act.

#2240989 Rupp 1st Goal, Then Salute at WC

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 12:03 PM

IMO, any kind of "dance" or strange celebration outside of a fist pump or raising your arms up then hugging you teammates should be penalized in ALL sports. Score a goal, Homerun, Touchdown and dance around like a damn fool like you are bigger than the game then it's a penalty. I know they don't have penalties in baseball, but enough of the chest bumps and crazy handshakes. Enough of the endzone charades and dances and enough of the "salutes" and "discount double play's." Score, pump your fists, hug teammates, get congratulated and move on. Nothing ruins a great touchdown/goal/homerun more than the kind of stuff that goes on after. (not so much happens in hockey, but the other sports got to do something about it.)

:lol: :hysterical: at the negs. Thanks! I think I may just do a dance!

#2240987 1/3 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Stars 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 January 2012 - 11:55 AM

Looking forward to Commodore throwing Ott around everytime he steps in front of Jimmy! Go Wings!

My bro, his lady friend, and I have tiks in Sec 223 (platinum level, Bitchez). I will wearing my Home Probert jersey (not genuine but Reebok reproduction ... boo) and my bro will be his Datsyuk black practice jersey. Looking forward to a good game and "killin it" at the Old Number 7 Club pregame and postgame. Will try to stop Hooter's to hook up with our LGW brethren. What time will you guys be there?

Dude, third wheel is not cool....lady friend won't be happy! :lol: