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#2243286 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 January 2012 - 10:16 PM

I guess the only way Detroit can beat Chicago, is by cheating....from what I heard on TV...


#2242932 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 January 2012 - 08:39 PM

Hey, here is an idea, lets put cleary back on thesecond line where he has sucked,and lets put hudler on the third line where he has sucked.

Hudler is playing good with Z and Flip. Cleary is great with Helm. WTF is Babcock doing?


#2242630 Open Season on Ducks

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 January 2012 - 01:14 PM

Franzen leads the team in goals and is second in points. He's on pace for over 30 goals. How is that "not performing"?

Ok, he was "performing" then last year too when he scored 28 Goals to lead the team and 55 points to end up 4th on the team, right? Problem is, on 2/2/11 he scored 5 goals against Ottawa to give him a total of 26 on the season, that means for the next 2+ months he only had 2 goals, one on 3/5/11 vs. PHX and one on 4/3/11 vs. MIN. That is far from performing and leading the team. He does the same thing year in and year out. He is very lazy most nights, puts in a batch of goals for a stretch, then disappears again. I'd rather he score a goal every other game than a bundle before the trade deadline then stink up the ice the rest of the season. Again, if Perry is presented to us and Franzen needs to part of the deal, I say do it!


#2242621 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 January 2012 - 12:09 PM

I hate to interrupt the bulls*** with an actual fact, but Fanzen has 8 game winning goals which leads the entire National Hockey League. Brad Richards is second with 6. 8 guys have 5. He has a +22 which is number 1 in the NHL among Right Wingers.

So explain to me again why you want to trade the most clutch player in the league.

...again, someone misinterprets the GWG stat by actually thinking the game was tied and he scored to untie it to win us the game. The GWG is nothing but the goal that you won by. Let's say the Wings were up 6-0 and Franzen scored the 7th goal. The Hawks come roaring back and score 6 goals only to fall short of the comeback, viola, that 7th goal is still considered the GWG, but it was hardly a "clutch" goal. Franzen is no more clutch than a break pedal. Most if not ALL of his 8 GWG's are of that exact variety, he scores when the Wings are already winning and the other team loses by one goal or more and Franzen's goal which was scored two periods ago, just happens to get the stat of GWG. The NHL should change the way the stat is defined. A GWG should only be a goal that a player scores to untie the game and end the end wins the game for you, not the way it is awarded now.

Again, if you or anyone can show me Franzen 8 ACTUAL GWG's that untie the game and win it for the Wings, then I will agree that he is the most clutch player in the league. But in all actuality he is not.


#2242556 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 January 2012 - 12:21 AM

I like how you waited three minutes before assuming I was too afraid to respond.

I had originally thought it was 8 goals when the game was tied, but I must have misread that. Either way, you disregarded the rest of my post to argue a minute point. Bad form.

Well, the rest of your post was fine. I hate Hudler and Franzen equally, ya, his cap hit is pretty small, and again, I dislike him with a passion, so I never thought he was as clutch as Zetterberg. BUT the 8 GWG, doesn't always mean they were actual goals that untied the game for a win. In all honesty I wish that was the way they credited GWG's instead of the way they do now. Sorry, Franzen could score 100 and Hudler 200 and I will never like them...


#2242548 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 11:58 PM

:lol:
You have lost it.

And half of them have come when the game is tied.

SUPER CLUTCH!




Yeah, and we have to pay him a whole 4 million a season. Everyone run for the hills, because we won't be able to improve the team or trade him like ever.



It only took a year for Franzen to turn from "the most clutch player next to Zetterberg" to "the least clutch player on the team".

I'm not even saying Franzen has been up to par this season. But you are just getting ridiculous. The guy is struggling but still able to have more goals than anyone else on the team.

Temper the over the top hate.

Half of them have not come when the game was tied. Of those 8 GWG's, most of them were goals he scored when the team went up 2 or 3 goals and the other team fell short of a comeback and by default his goal was the game winner. Show me 8 GWG's from him when the score was tied and I will take back everything I have said.

edit: thought not.


#2242545 Cherry rips Holland

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 11:53 PM

Video up


Well, after watching that, I have to say this was blown out of proportion by someone here. He wasn't mocking Holland, he just said, hey, you are gonna have to go into places like Boston and if you don't have someone who is willing to drop em and defend your teammates, then you aren't gonna win.

Boston, San Jose they are going to bounce you around again and again. I agree with Cherry. Wings lack that Avery type player, Lapointe, Drake, Rouse. They don't need a Probert.


#2242534 Cherry rips Holland

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 11:25 PM

Exactly who was theirs in 2008? Running from hockeyfights.com...

Downey? Won 7 of 10, but several in close decisions. Lilja? Three, all draws. Drake? Lost 3 of five. McCarty? Zero fighting majors.

you don't have to win them all, just be willing to go. Downey, Lilja, Drake, McCarty. Any one of who would drop the gloves at the first run at Datsyuk or Lidstrom. We don't have a regular player like that now. And when our star players are getting beat on in the regular season, it takes it's toll on their bodies and they are hurting in the playoffs. If a Aaron Downey was there to protect them in the regular season, they are that less hurting come playoffs.


#2242532 Losing: a reoccuring theme

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 11:16 PM

Scoring...we have certain players that only score when the pressure is off, and when they do, they score in bunches to pad their stats, but fail to show up when really needed. The Wings are near the top of the league in goals for, but how many of those came in that stretch when they score 7 goals every game at home? Our sniper scores half his goals in November and them doesn't score a meaningful goal for three months. Change is needed and I hope change is coming. We need a scorer that can be relied upon to score when the chips are down...


#2242530 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 11:09 PM

Have to agree. Hudler at least showed some grit tonight, I'll give him that. I think we're getting to the point where turning a win into a blowout isn't really needed, but someone to turn a one goal deficit into a tie-game is.

totally agree. Franzen is by far not the only one that needs to show up more, but he IS our sniper, right? At least that is what we are being told...he is better than Hossa....from what I hear..


#2242525 Cherry rips Holland

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 10:56 PM

I'll just summarize the responses for you here:

Crymson: "NO! The Wings are perfect and Holland had nice hair! They do not need a tough guy."

Konnan: "You're all just xenophobic euro-haters. They score plenty of points with 'soft-euros'."

Various: "Fighting in hockey is useless. You should just watch UFC, you don't even like hockey."

Holland: "The right deal just wasn't available, but we're confident that some players will take that next step..."


You forgot the most important one:

"You don't like Hudler and Franzen? You are not a true Wings fan, why don't you go root for the Penguins?"


#2242524 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 10:54 PM

we needed him today and he wasn't there. Some sniper we have... He is worse than Hudler...

You mean like the one time he did that this season?

half his goals have come when we were already winning...not very clutch. Sorry, I just expect more from our "Sniper." He is supposed to be up there with the rest of the NHL snipers, he needs to score when the team needs it, like tonight! Very disappointed in Franzen I am. And we are stuck with him and that God awful contract....like forever.

You know he is horrible when it comes down to being clutch. He just floats around out there most nights and never shows up when needed....much like tonight.


#2242503 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 09:47 PM

It is funny how he gets ripped for that when he still has been leading the team in goals (and tied for second in points).

What does that say about the rest of the team when the inconsistent Franzen continues to lead in that category despite his poor recent play?

agreed. But sure needed him to put a goal in tonight, not when we are winning 5-0 already.


#2242502 Cherry rips Holland

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

Wings win. That's all that matters. Sounds like insecurities from him. Wings don't need a tough man to win. FACT.

Fact? Tell me one Stanley Cup they won without one? Sure they win in the regular season and give it a go in the playoffs, but where are the FACTS? I am not advocating an enforcer, just a tough guy who will fight when needed.


#2242332 1/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Maple Leafs 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 January 2012 - 07:40 PM

Corey Perry would help us right now.

Now would be a great time for our sniper to snipe away and score a couple...you hear me Franzen?