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#2315303 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 July 2012 - 09:02 PM

detroit is the premier destination for 35+ players.


If it gets a Cup, then I am all for it....I can deal with getting an aging vet for a couple of years, every couple of years to put us over the top in the quest...he would still be only the 3rd player over 35+ on our team...Semin, Yandle, Mueller and Ryan are young.


FORWARDS
Alexander Semin ($4.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Shane Doan ($5.000m)
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m)
Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) / Peter Mueller ($3.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Keith Yandle ($5.250m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Ryan Sproul ($0.925m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,304,167; BONUSES: $745,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,895,833

Gone in trades are Filppula, Franzine, Mursak, Emmerton, Abdelkader, Quincey, Cleary....whatever combo gets us Yandle and Ryan, I don't care. Filppula being the main one going for Ryan and Franzine main one going for Yandle. I would say Quincey would go to Phoenix as well and Abby to Anaheim...throw in a prospect to each to sweetin the pot...Mursak, Emmeton and Cleary can go for picks for all I care....

BTW, I am going back to a dream roster in my sig, since deleting it didn't help in getting Suter...


#2314964 Ryan Suter agrees to 13-year, $98-mil deal with Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 July 2012 - 03:45 PM

Suter can have been a part of our success for the next 13 years. He would have be an intricle part of our defense for the next 13 years...The Wings can a will win without him....unfortunately, he cannot win without us...if it were down to Nashville, Detroit or Minn, the obvious choice was Detroit....look at the track record, we never miss the playoffs, Holland has Iltich's wallet in his hand to make sure this remain competitve every year...are they Stanley Cup favorites every year? Of course not, but once you make the playoffs, anything can happen, and they make the playoffs....always....Minnesota doesn't. 3 appearances the last 11 years. ONCE past the 1st round... I don't need to quote Detroit's accolades in the last 11 years, but if ANYONE was or is worried about what will happen with Lidstrom gone, once Dats retires and Z retires....let's just look at what happened when we lost Yzerman, Shanahan, Fedorov, Hull, Robitaille, Hasek (the first time,) Konstantinov, Kozlov, Larionov....what happened since then?

Conference Finals
Stanley Cup Champion
Stanley Cup Runner Up
...and then a couple of early exits...

setback? Sure, but between 2002 and 2007 what happened?

1st round loss, 2nd round loss, 1st round loss...

Point is, the history has proven that Holland will always keep this team competitive EVERY year. Ilitch has an open wallet up to the Cap, every year! Guarantee, they have a plan right now and if the feel the price is right, Rick Nash or Bobby Ryan will be on this team...if they chose the UFA route, they will pitch their best at Semin, Doan, Mueller, Winnick, et al...

Sure Suter would have helped, but now they have to persevere and find that next guy to help. I'd give Carle $5M, inquire about Yandle or Bogosian or Bouwmeester... Holland will fill this team and will keep this team a perennial playoff team....history has proven this, and history has proven that Minnesota will not....especially now with half their Cap tied up in 5 guys...


#2314857 Ryan Suter agrees to 13-year, $98-mil deal with Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 July 2012 - 02:41 PM

Don't be so confident. Every empire has a ending. The Wings are on the decline.


Bet it...

Suter was coming here, but just because Holland knew Parise wasn't worth $7.5M, then Suter said forget it. Now when the Wild wins nothing in 13 years, he will be looking at Parise saying, I stuck up for your ass and we still don't have a Cup...Thanks!


f*** off both of them....I hope they are happy with thier wives choosing their lives....poosies...


#2314788 Ryan Suter agrees to 13-year, $98-mil deal with Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 July 2012 - 01:33 PM

Wings will win 2 Cups before Minn makes it out of the 2nd round....


#2313984 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 08:14 PM

I have a feeling that we are going to love this guy. Iam sure he will play his heart out for our team. Not many on Wings roster are willing to do that.


Well, not Franzine thats for sure...


#2313768 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 03:37 PM

Lost in all this, Helen St. James has reported that if Detroit misses the Parise bus, they will go hard for Doan on the 9th...

Not really. Not lowballing him by (by the reports) 20 million less than some other teams with their initial offer, when everybody knows that we NEED Suter, would have shown that they are serious.

This is why you don't try the extreme lowball tactic with somone when you both know damn well that you need them. The Wings bumped their offer up by 10 mil in the blink of an eye. Suter has to be thinking, well if they did that, they'll probably match any offer I get from any other team.

If they had offered him like 90 up front, with some wiggle room, it might have been a done deal. Now its possible we might have to pay even more than that.

Shrewd negotiating doesn't work so well when the other party knows that they have your back up against a wall and your just posturing.


I don't think Holland lowballed him...guarantee that Hollands offer was on par with every other "contending" team that made him an offer....

If there were teams that offered Suter $100M-$110M it was more than likely teams that HAD to offer him that much for even a consideration... ie. Bottom dwellers...
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#2313736 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

Frick! Just make the announcement already! My wife is getting very annoyed with me on this computer and twitter updates all day!


#2313620 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

Why would they be there courting him? They could very well be there finalizing and picking him up to bring him to the Joe for the presser... according to most NHL experts at TSN and ESPN, Suter to Detroit is a done deal...I will go with that until it changes.

So lets just say, Wings contingent in Madison finalizing deal and bring Suter to Hockeytown.


#2313609 List of why Zach Parise and Ryan Suter should choose the Red Wings...

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 01:13 PM

Here is the reason why Parise and Suter should sign with the Wings....and why the likes of Nash, Ryan, Semin will also love to be here:




and here is why they should not want to sign in Pit:




#2313566 Parise Watch [update x2]: Red Wings OUT of Running

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 12:08 PM

I heard from a reliable source that Parise took a dump this morning.

esteef


...and that will not compare to the dump he will take if he signs in Minny...


#2313518 Still no decision from Suter. Speculation abounds.

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

Suter won't be an issue...13 years, frontloaded contract, #1 defenseman on the team, best defenseman in the league, multiple Norris Trophies while here... Suter will be a Red Wing...

Parise, ya, if we can land him too, super! But if not we could get Nash or Ryan along with Semin and possibly Meuller and things would be rockin!


#2313517 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

Uh....nobody really liked the Dallas Drake signing either.... Some of you guys are very finicky....we want toughness, we want someone to stick up for Pav and Z, we want someone who will sacrifice his body, someone to fight in the corners, someone to check people tenasciously...then Holland signs someone like that, and he is only 28 and put in 30 points last season (a career high, so he deserves a raise,) and you all freak out!

If you ask me, a 4th line of Abby - Helm - Tootoo seems to me like a very hard line to play against and one that will generate a TON of excitement with tons of energy and hits...

I like this signing, came out of nowhere and it could be a helpful acquisition in securing Ryan Suter for the next 13 years...and then they BOTH could land us Weber if he becomes a UFA next season...this is no guarantee, but it can't hurt...

Good on you Holland, every year you kick the tires, this year, starting with the draft, you actually have squealed the hell out of those tires and if you can follow this up with Suter, Semin and Nash then those tires will be ripped right from the wheels! Great job so far Kenny, great job!


#2313504 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 10:50 AM

If it takes a Franzine package or a Fippula packge....just do it! It's Rick Frickin Nash!


#2313346 Still no decision from Suter. Speculation abounds.

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 July 2012 - 10:21 PM

Suter, Nash & Semin....please...


#2313321 Still no decision from Suter. Speculation abounds.

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 July 2012 - 09:32 PM

God I hope we land Suter.... Land him and trade for Nash.... Bingo!