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#2269205 3/10 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Predators 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 March 2012 - 11:35 PM

Here they come. Told you guys that Wings would fall behind both st louis and nashville. How does a 5th seed sound? Keep playing this way and it will be a reality....if not 6th.

#2269111 3/10 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Predators 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 March 2012 - 10:17 PM

Anyone still think its :hysterical: that both St Louis and Nashville will pass the Wings?

I know its because of the injuries, but its happening. Although its obvious Franzen is NOT a star.....

#2268765 Smith/Kindl/Ericsson

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 March 2012 - 10:50 PM

It'd be hard losing both Lidstrom and Stuart in the offseason.

And there's no telling if we'd get Suter. There will be a lot of teams after him, and we are no longer in the pre-salary cap era, where Detroit can just throw him the biggest contract.

I agree, but I figure maybe with the combined total of Lids and Stuart's money, they may be able to offer Suter $8M long term....dunno, I certainly hope if they both go, that Holland goes after someone big time!
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#2268762 Smith/Kindl/Ericsson

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 March 2012 - 10:38 PM

So, with how Smith has been playing, and with the acquisition of Quincey, it's going to be an interesting picture when Kindl and Ericsson return from injury. I'm thinking that both of them will be left in reserve; Smith is simply playing too well right now.


I would love for Smith to remain in the lineup, but that would require Ericsson to sit. Although E is not as good as he has shown to be in previous years, I don't know if Holland will allow Babcock to have $3M+ sitting in the press box as a healthy scratch. I hope Smith and Quincey make up the #5/6 slots, but I just don't see Ericsson not playing when healthy...that's too bad.


As a matter of fact if both Stuart and Lidstrom leave next year, this is the lineup I want to see:


I can do without either or both of E and Kindl, but not too sure who would replace them.

#2268751 3/9 GDT : Kings 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 March 2012 - 10:17 PM

Whoever negged my last post care to explain why? Did you think it wasn't a snoozer? Did you think everyone played great? Do you think Nyquist played crappy? Don't just neg, explain why you disagree...

#2268743 3/9 GDT : Kings 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 March 2012 - 10:12 PM

a win is a win.

Injuries yes, but there are still regualar players not stepping it up...they shall remain nameless but you all know who they are.

Smith, Z, Fil played great...Helm is Helm and will be a fixture here for a long time. Migity Mac made the saves when he had to. Nyquist looked like he was excited to be here and got an assist to show for it. Hopefully he takes Hudler's spot next season.

Pretty much a snoozer game, but glad they got the 2 points...

#2267016 Cleary, Bertuzzi, Hudler and Franzen

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 March 2012 - 11:11 PM

You can whine when he stops playing up to his contract.

As of right now, it is a good value contract, and with the cap continuing to steadily rise, it will continue to be less and less of a percentage of the cap hit.

When Ville Leino is getting paid $4.5 million to score 6 goals and Rick Nash is being paid almost 8 million for the same goals as Franzen at this point, I would think we should be perfectly okay with how the Franzen contract has played out so far.

And I don't really care about regular salary. Detroit is the second most valuable team in the U.S. (behind the Rangers), so whether they take a small bath on overpaying in salary for their leading goal scorer, I can live with that.

on the other side of the ball sack, Hudler, Helm, Miller and Filppula are make LESS than Franzen and are out performing him on a regular basis. Filppula is way more valuable to this team than Franzen...so is Helm and Abdelkader, so you can argue his salary both ways. He is overpaid considering for his lack of consistency IMO. He takes a raincheck on most nights. If he would play 100% for 82 games? He'd be making $8M somewhere...

#2266977 henrik zetterberg

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 March 2012 - 09:26 PM

I was just reading about all of our injuries today and mlive reported that henrik zetterberg has been playing with an upper body injury. One has to think ,given his history, that it is his back bothering him. With that said, i am very happy with hank because, despite his injury he has still managed to pick up his game to a new level and work his butt off every shift to help carry the wings. But, when pavel comes back i think it is really important to have him rest a few games once pasha is back because we need our eurotwins rested and healthy for playoffs.

I tend to agree about his back. Listen, I love Zetterberg, he was a beast in 08' but the Wings should have never given him that life long contract with his history of back issues. I know that the length needed to be that long in order to bring the cap hit down, but he will never play as long as his contract is...the exact same goes for Franzen...well except I hate him.

To get it fixed it will require time they don't currently have. On the short scale, it's one of those things were you want to keep playing on it in fears of what it would feel like once given the chance to set in. Maybe it would lock up on him if he were to take a few days off, so he continues to just wear on it.

Not sure why you got negged for that, it would be nice for the yellowbelly coward to debate why they negged someone...

#2266971 Cleary, Bertuzzi, Hudler and Franzen

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 March 2012 - 09:10 PM

This team could do without any of all 4 of them... I like Cleary with Helm, but Helm makes anyone look good. I could have done without Bertuzzi next season (and the next) but as long as he plays with Datsyuk, he is effective enough....as much as I hate Hudler, I am happy with his resurgence this year, which means he will ask for $5M+ next year as a UFA, I hope Holland lets him walk. If he wants to re-sign for $3M or less, then I have no issues. Franzen, hmmmmm.....leading the team in goals (barely) but is falling fast down the points list. I for one cant stand the people that defend him for his playoff year a couple ago. He is SO inconsistent it hurts. He scores his goals all before March and then struggles to get back. I agree that if he doesn't have another magical playoff at a point per game, he should seriously be shopped or bought out. Ya, his cap hit is not too bad, but he is not earning his $4M. Points are one thing, work ethic and heart are another, he has none of that and like I said is fading on the point scale. But he is what he is...lazy. I am done with him.

If they lost all four, I would not hesitate a fart....

#2266791 3/4 GDT : Blackhawks 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 March 2012 - 08:53 AM

Keeping Franzen over Hossa was the right move because Ken Holland is the greatest GM in the history of the world and should never be questioned! :ninja:

(even though Hossa is 1,000,000,000 times better than Franzen ever imagined to be.)

Franzen showed his work ethic again against the Hawks. Problem is, this guy will never be traded because every other GM knows his work ethic and wants no part of him. I would just buy him out.

#2266132 Brendan Smith watch thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 March 2012 - 02:59 PM

Lids, Suter, White, Kronner, Quincey, Smith, Ericsson, Kindl???

If Smith is NHL ready, Lids returns AND they sign Suter, they will no choice BUT to trade Ericsson because they cannot have a $3M player being the 7th defenseman.


You'd have to have Kindl be the #7 because he makes less than $1M. I have a strange feeling though that the re-signing of Quincey is gonna be Holland's July 1st D pickup, because if Lids comes back that will give them 7 NHL defensemen. I think Holland will give Lids his $6.2M and say his defense is set.


The only thing this does is give us hope that if Weber does another 1yr deal in Nashville, he will be a UFA in 2013 and we can hope against all hopes that Weber is a Red Wing in 13/14.

This will be okay too, then Holland can maybe throw $7M+ for a long term deal to Parise and address that issue. Then attempt to sign Lids replacement in 2013...

#2266130 Who are the biggest threats in playoffs?

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 March 2012 - 02:17 PM

All are huge threats in their own way, especially on the road...

...definitely the PP/PK...

...Helm will have a great playoff. Franzen....BETTER show up!

#2266126 Brendan Smith watch thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 March 2012 - 02:09 PM

I was very impressed with both Smith and Quincey last night. IMO they both deserves playing time over and above Ericsson and Kindl. I think this defense is in great shape even with Stuart probably leaving and even if Lidstrom retires. I still think Holland should go hard after Suter. I know it probably won't happen, but Lids needs to come back for around $4.5M in order to secure Suter and Parise long term. If he doesn't feel he can take the pay cut, then there is going to be issues siging Suter and Parise. That is only my opinion though and :censored:

Anyhow, Smith looked real good yesterday, let's see if he can stay out of the abysmal black hole on the road that the rest of this team falls into. Good for him!

BTW: I absolutely LOVE Franzen's demotion. He is even lacking effort on the third line....damn that stupid ass contract.


He said the defense was better without Ericsson. Lidstrom has been out both of those games as well.

But I guess this isn't just more baseless Ericsson bashing and you can somehow determine that the defense actually looks better overall specifically because of Ericsson's absence and not Lidstrom's?

It used to be that Kindl>Ericsson, which was wrong. Ericsson clearly outplayed Kindl, who couldn't hold his spot in the lineup over Commie. When that became obvious, you guys shifted to complaining about Ericsson's contract. Now that he's out of the lineup, somehow you can tell the defense is better specifically because of his absence.

You guys hate him. That's fine. Certain players are just going to get bashed. But it's not about what's actually happening on the ice, it's silly to pretend otherwise.

As for Smith, I'm glad he's finally getting some playing time. I know it's probably for the best, but Holland's "overly ripe"philosophy can be frustrating. I can't wait until this kids a regular in the lineup.

It just shows me that if the Wings ditched Ericsson and Lidstrom retired, the D would be okay without them!

Next Season:


#2265493 Current standings

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 March 2012 - 05:48 PM


#2265487 Wings W-L Record In Final 22?

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

So how do you guys think the Wings will go the rest of the way now with all these injuries? I saw the finish no better than 4th in the conference as the Blues and possibly Predators will overtake them to go along with the Canucks.

These "fans" are idiots...I said the same thing on deadline day, that they would lose the #1 seed and possible drop to 6th in the playoffs, hell they are already in 4th. They laughed at me. They call you an idiot. Seems nobody wants to admit that the Wings are not omnipotent.

Dudes, not saying the Wings suck, but Holland should have made a blockbuster. Now with injuries, they are going to lose their position even more. They played like crap against Columbus except for the last 10-12 minutes. That comeback doesn't happen against anyone but Columbus. They needed a shakeup. Now they know they can float around and not show up 100% and be confident there will be no repercussions.