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#2317298 Hockey Prospectus

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 11:36 AM

Uh oh....cue the centcougar sighting in 3...2...1...


#2317295 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 09 July 2012 - 11:32 AM

Which is why Holland should make a deal for Ryan...he would start the next generation. He may influence the likes of Getzlaf and/or Perry next July...Same could be said about Nash too, he would have some influence throughout the league as well...one would think..


#2317163 Bob Probert: 2 Years Ago Today

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 10:32 PM

Had the pleasure of meeting him plenty of times...the year he came back and couldn't travel to Canada, he would always come to DTW and fly out to meet the team, I may have been a bit of a stalker, but I would check the flights to see which one he was on and always "ran into him" there. It got to the point to where if I missed him one time, he's ask me the next time I saw him, what happened... Great Great Guy, depsite all his personal issues...wish he never left us for Chicago and I sure wish he never "left" us for Heaven... I love ya Bob, sorry you never got to drive the electric cart! :lol:


#2317158 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 10:18 PM

Here is the offseason of choice after being one of the snubbed teams by Mary Kate and Ashley:

Shane Doan

Peter Mueller

Pavel Kubina

Trade, waive or do whatever to make rosters spots for these three and let's rock!


I really do wish Holland had the balls to trade Filpulla for Ryan and also trade Franzine for someone else of value! But I'd be happy with just the Ryan trade and the above three UFA signings...


#2317155 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 09:53 PM

Saying Val Filppula is a wash with Bobby Ryan, you are on crack....Hey, maybe they'll trade us Ryan and a 1st rounder for Flip?

Here's the problem, sure Flip and Ryan are the main cogs, but Holland will have to sweetin the deal in order to secure him. Throwing in two NHL ready prospects and a pick should more than entice Murray enough to trade Ryan to us...not unless Columbus offers them Rick Nash...

Everything I have said is all speculation, of course, I do not know Mr. Murray, but he had said he wants a 2nd line center and some young talent...Could there be other teams with 2nd line centers they are willing to trade? Of course! I maintain that Holland has the trump in Filppula though, because of Selanne wanting to play with Flip in the NHL. He was asked last trade deadline if he would like to play with Flip and he said that when they play together on team Finland, they have great chemistry and he would enjoy playing in the NHL with him. Selanne has said he'd like to come back for another year and of course he only wants to play in Anaheim. Couple all that together and it's almost like a marriage made in Heaven. Murray gets Flip AND Selanne...PLUS he gets two NHL ready prospects AND a pick...We get Bobby Ryan, 24 year old phenom who is signed for three more years at a great rate and who will help usher in the next 20 years of dominance! We get younger, get a player at a position WE NEED, they get a player at a position THEY NEED and all are happy...

Both sides would be crazy not to do this deal....Now, not unless Holland wants Nash more than Ryan, then we are talking a whole new ballgame!


#2317135 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 08:53 PM

Fil would bring you Ryan...plain and simple...

Filppula, Mursak, Tatar, 2nd rounder gets us Bobby Ryan....MAKE THE FLIPPIN TRADE!


#2317107 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 06:32 PM

Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen, Jurco, Frk, Sheahan, Sproul, Tvrdon, Athanasiou, Bodin, McKee...We Won't Miss Mursak, Tatar or Andersson...


#2317101 An outside the box idea.

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 06:23 PM

There are lots of options out there. More than we even know. I am not sure Holland will ever move Franzen. He chose to sign him over Hossa and it just seems that if he got rid of him, it would be like admitting a mistake...I wish he'd move Franzen, but....sigh....

Del Zotto would be good and so would McIlrath...I wanted Holland to draft McIlrath but the Rangers swooped him up before he got to Holland...I don't think Holland would've drafted him, but ya, I would love Dylan in a Wings uniform...definitely a youth movement. Same went for Joe Morrow a few years ago, but Pitt took him a couple of picks ahead of Detroit too...


#2317067 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 04:12 PM

All the Tootoo naysayers are going to be pleasantly surprised this season! He just came of a career year and that was in and out of the lineup. I am sure he may be one of the guys rotating with Miller and Eaves, but if he finds chemistry with Helm and Abby (or wherever he ends up) he will surely find himself in the lineup more than out.

I cannot wait for that freight train to level Parise followed up by a Kronwall! Holland should sign Barch for GR and bring him up each game against Minnesota so when our guys target miss prissy too good for Detroit, Barch will be there to whoop the ass of anyone wanting to step up to defend her...


#2317047 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

Well, his agent has contacted 12 teams including the Wings, so I believe he is trying to drive his value up for negotiations with Phx. His offensive production has been dropping over the last 5 years, and he projects to be a 3rd line winger based upon production, age, and skill set. Do the Wings need another 3rd line winger? The answer is no. And to leftwinger, 3 years at 5.5 million is a joke, that would make him paid in the same ball park of Zetterberg, and hes no Zetterberg.

No he is not a Zetterberg...he is though a whole different Dimension to this team...he would be the power forward we have missed since Shanny left. He would NOT be on the 3rd line. He would get at least 2ns line minutes, if not play on Pav's wing.

The joke is, standing pat and giving Tatar and Andersson playing time....that is the joke. Tatar and Andersson should be moved in a package deal for Ryan or Yandle or Nash... Detroit does not rebuild, they reload. It's been their winning model since the 90's. A steady influx of UFA vets and bringing kids up...Nyquist and Smith are the kids this year, Doan SHOULD be the UFA. He is here for 2-3 years, Holland goes hard after Perry or Getzlaf and Weber next off season, and then implements Plans b,c,d,e,f-Zz.

You will never see this team with all 30 and under players on it...there will always be 2 or 3 players over 35. Holland needs to trade for Ryan, sign Doan, sign Kubina, re-sign Abby and then Q if the awarded contract is feasible.


#2317037 Doan staying in PHX 4 yrs $21.2 mill

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 July 2012 - 02:38 PM

Doan for 3 years please....not just a one year chance at a Cup....he'll want to go where he can win a Cup, but he will need a year just to get into our system 100%. Three years $5.5M please! Still leaves plenty of cap room...we need to get these types of UFA's in here, because they attract others...If Doan comes here, has a great time and gets into playoffs, guarantee he is respected enough among the players that UFA's next July will be calling him asking about his experience and if Detroit is the place to be...I don't think Semin would have the same affect, lets say, on Corey Perry or Ryan Getzlaf or even Shea Weber as Shane Doan would...just my $.02 worth....


#2316879 Semin

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 July 2012 - 09:48 PM

Semin will come to Detroit, and the season will have a happy ending in June.

I can foresee it.


:lol: I see what you did there....Semin.....Happy Ending.... :hysterical:


#2316839 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 July 2012 - 07:00 PM

^ I agree too...too ( :lol: ) I don't understand the hate for this guy...27, in his prime, coming off a career year (30 points) he can only help us, as long as Babcock plays him...


#2316830 Wings hire Lidstrom as overseas amateur scout

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 July 2012 - 06:41 PM

We'll have McKee and Bodin in a few years...no worries about big and strong hitters...

Of course LIdstrom is gonna work for the Wings over there, did anyone expect anything else? You know what I want? Someone in Russia finding the next Fedorov/Datsyuk...

side note: without bumping it, I am sure glad the Suter/Parise threads are dropping off the first page....looking forward to the Kronwalling!


#2316828 The Next Move

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

I think its pretty obvious now that the main FA left that Holland is targeting is Doan, especially considering all his "we need veteran leadership comments".

While he's a great player, can someone please explain to me why we need him of all people? I just don't get it. Veteran leadership? Most of our core team are seasoned veterans!

Datsyuk - 33
Zetterberg - 31
Franzen - 32
Kronwall - 31
Bertuzzi - 37
Sammy - 36
Clearly - 33


Given this, it seems we have plenty of veteran leadership and I just fail to see what Doan could possibly provide except some toughness and some more goals. We should be trying to get younger, trying to get a sniper to play wing with Pav. Another 35+ player on a team of aging veterans? I just don't get it.....


Hence acquiring Bobby Ryan...adding Shane Doan only helps this team...This guy can and will score 30+ goals playing with Pav or Z...Ryan scoring 40 is not unrealistic. Bobby Ryan is 24...trade for him then in three years tie him up for the rest of his career...Parise who?

to ANA : Val Filppula, Jan Mursak, Tomas Tatar, 2nd round pick

to DET : Bobby Ryan

it's almost explains itself....sign Doan, Kubina, Q if the price is right... Roll On! (Getzlaf, Perry, Weber available next July)

Holland needs to go. Hes not doing his job.


What do you mean? He offered Suter less money so he could play for your team....he did it for you!