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#2313768 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 03:37 PM

Lost in all this, Helen St. James has reported that if Detroit misses the Parise bus, they will go hard for Doan on the 9th...

Not really. Not lowballing him by (by the reports) 20 million less than some other teams with their initial offer, when everybody knows that we NEED Suter, would have shown that they are serious.

This is why you don't try the extreme lowball tactic with somone when you both know damn well that you need them. The Wings bumped their offer up by 10 mil in the blink of an eye. Suter has to be thinking, well if they did that, they'll probably match any offer I get from any other team.

If they had offered him like 90 up front, with some wiggle room, it might have been a done deal. Now its possible we might have to pay even more than that.

Shrewd negotiating doesn't work so well when the other party knows that they have your back up against a wall and your just posturing.


I don't think Holland lowballed him...guarantee that Hollands offer was on par with every other "contending" team that made him an offer....

If there were teams that offered Suter $100M-$110M it was more than likely teams that HAD to offer him that much for even a consideration... ie. Bottom dwellers...
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#2313736 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

Frick! Just make the announcement already! My wife is getting very annoyed with me on this computer and twitter updates all day!


#2313620 Suter Watch: Decision today, down to Wings/Wild

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

Why would they be there courting him? They could very well be there finalizing and picking him up to bring him to the Joe for the presser... according to most NHL experts at TSN and ESPN, Suter to Detroit is a done deal...I will go with that until it changes.

So lets just say, Wings contingent in Madison finalizing deal and bring Suter to Hockeytown.


#2313609 List of why Zach Parise and Ryan Suter should choose the Red Wings...

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 01:13 PM

Here is the reason why Parise and Suter should sign with the Wings....and why the likes of Nash, Ryan, Semin will also love to be here:




and here is why they should not want to sign in Pit:




#2313566 Parise Watch [update x2]: Red Wings OUT of Running

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 12:08 PM

I heard from a reliable source that Parise took a dump this morning.

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...and that will not compare to the dump he will take if he signs in Minny...


#2313518 Still no decision from Suter. Speculation abounds.

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

Suter won't be an issue...13 years, frontloaded contract, #1 defenseman on the team, best defenseman in the league, multiple Norris Trophies while here... Suter will be a Red Wing...

Parise, ya, if we can land him too, super! But if not we could get Nash or Ryan along with Semin and possibly Meuller and things would be rockin!


#2313517 Red Wings Sign Jordin Tootoo to 3-yr deal, $1.9M/yr

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

Uh....nobody really liked the Dallas Drake signing either.... Some of you guys are very finicky....we want toughness, we want someone to stick up for Pav and Z, we want someone who will sacrifice his body, someone to fight in the corners, someone to check people tenasciously...then Holland signs someone like that, and he is only 28 and put in 30 points last season (a career high, so he deserves a raise,) and you all freak out!

If you ask me, a 4th line of Abby - Helm - Tootoo seems to me like a very hard line to play against and one that will generate a TON of excitement with tons of energy and hits...

I like this signing, came out of nowhere and it could be a helpful acquisition in securing Ryan Suter for the next 13 years...and then they BOTH could land us Weber if he becomes a UFA next season...this is no guarantee, but it can't hurt...

Good on you Holland, every year you kick the tires, this year, starting with the draft, you actually have squealed the hell out of those tires and if you can follow this up with Suter, Semin and Nash then those tires will be ripped right from the wheels! Great job so far Kenny, great job!


#2313504 St. James: Wings have inquired about Rick Nash

Posted by LeftWinger on 03 July 2012 - 10:50 AM

If it takes a Franzine package or a Fippula packge....just do it! It's Rick Frickin Nash!


#2313346 Still no decision from Suter. Speculation abounds.

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 July 2012 - 10:21 PM

Suter, Nash & Semin....please...


#2313321 Still no decision from Suter. Speculation abounds.

Posted by LeftWinger on 02 July 2012 - 09:32 PM

God I hope we land Suter.... Land him and trade for Nash.... Bingo!


#2311516 Pens Targeting Suter and Parise

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 June 2012 - 08:00 PM

Here's a couple interesting tidbits concerning Parise and Suter.

Report: Pittsburgh’s offer for Parise — “many years between $7-8 million”

The Ryan Suter sweepstakes will likely drag into next week


Well then if Holland is serious, he'll just have to up that to $8M-$9M....longer contract...front loaded so he is making $10M-$11M a year for over half the contract... What Mr.I wants, Mr.I gets....all he has to do is feel slighted by Shero and the Pit owner and "Badaboom!" Parise will be his....along with Suter.

IMO, though I could care less if Parise does not come here. Suter is more important, then Holland can focus on the Doan's around the league... besides if Holland lands Nash, we'll be saying Parise? Parcheesee? Pepperoni? Pimples? Who?


BTW, it's nice that an "offer" leaked out, can anyone say tampering?


#2311472 Predictions on where players will land

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 June 2012 - 04:59 PM

Well wingydingy....they need to sign 2 forwards and 2 defensmen. If they give Brunner that spot, then yes one forward, but you better believe it will be a top 6 rather than a bottom 6. 2 defensmen, sure they have Quincey as a RFA, but dump him and get Suter & Garrison...That will bring them to 23 players. When and if they keep Abby, someone (Emmerton or Mursak) will be bumped out. May as well go for Doan too and bump both of them or trade them in a package or just for some draft pick depth....

Wonder if the words "I like the team we have currently" and "we can always add at the trade deadline" will be spoken from Holland tomorrow


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#2311460 Predictions on where players will land

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 June 2012 - 04:17 PM

I am gonna say Suter/Doan/Prust/Meuller/Garrison/Montoya - Detroit... everyone else I could care less about because nobody will be able to touch us after we acquire Nash to go along with those UFA's!


#2311458 D Justin Schultz signs with Oilers

Posted by LeftWinger on 30 June 2012 - 04:11 PM

Also, it's be nice to get Petry off their hands and into our system!


#2311246 Brodeur may test open market

Posted by LeftWinger on 29 June 2012 - 06:50 PM

Howard is in a contract year, don't think he will like splitting time with someone when he wants to play the most he can and the best he can to get a nice fat paycheck next year...he would really hate if he lost his job to Fat Boy and it would suck if he just said F/U and walked as a UFA....