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#2265487 Wings W-L Record In Final 22?

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

So how do you guys think the Wings will go the rest of the way now with all these injuries? I saw the finish no better than 4th in the conference as the Blues and possibly Predators will overtake them to go along with the Canucks.

These "fans" are idiots...I said the same thing on deadline day, that they would lose the #1 seed and possible drop to 6th in the playoffs, hell they are already in 4th. They laughed at me. They call you an idiot. Seems nobody wants to admit that the Wings are not omnipotent.

Dudes, not saying the Wings suck, but Holland should have made a blockbuster. Now with injuries, they are going to lose their position even more. They played like crap against Columbus except for the last 10-12 minutes. That comeback doesn't happen against anyone but Columbus. They needed a shakeup. Now they know they can float around and not show up 100% and be confident there will be no repercussions.

#2265444 Current standings

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 March 2012 - 02:19 PM


#2265224 Johan Franzen Depreciation

Posted by LeftWinger on 29 February 2012 - 08:59 PM

I'm glad you missed the entire point of the whole "signing Hossa or Franzen" aspect of my post.

The entire point was because of his shoulder injury, he was GUARANTEED to miss half the season due to rehab. Franzen wasn't.

Hossa's "other attributes" did not do much to help Detroit in the post season. That is an issue despite the fact he was able to score 40 goals.

His best year happened to be alongside arguably the best center today. He hasn't replicated that performance, or even come close since.

Also, Franzen signed before the season ended, while Hossa took longer to negotiate a contract. Holland wasn't about to risk losing BOTH Franzen and Hossa by waiting on a deal for him.

Finally, the "one year rental" aspect, if you bothered to bring it into context, makes the point of Holland being loyal to players he drafted and included in the system. Hossa came by for one year, and Franzen worked his ass off to make it to the top line. Did anyone expect him to start floating? Absolutely not.

Point being, the entire point was that Hossa was not an easy choice, and if not for the Hudler debacle, Hossa AND Franzen could have been signed.

Funny how people forget that.

Not me! This is one of the reasons I f'ing hate Hudler...

#2265211 Lidstrom to win Norris trophy?

Posted by LeftWinger on 29 February 2012 - 08:23 PM

Lidstrom hasn't even been the best defenseman on our team, IMO, let alone the entire league. I don't know if he would win the Norris even if he was playing hockey ala lidstrom 2002, though. I feel like there are too many influential people who see Lids as inferior to Orr and have to justify that by not voting for his tying Norris trophy. It doesn't matter either way, though.

This to a "T"

They will never vote Lidstrom an 8th trophy just because that would mean that people would have to admit that Lidstrom is just as good as or even better than Orr ever was. So by that fact alone, Lids will retire with 7 Norris Trophies.

On that note, if I am making a team and picking players from their prime, Lidstrom gets picked before Orr...

#2264293 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 07:33 PM

This year the finals will be Canucks/Rangers with the Canucks finally winning the Stanley Cup. You can take that to the bank.

Better them than the Rangers, if New York won it, we'd never hear the end of "America's Team!" "Won it for the 9/11 victims!" "Best team to ever play in the United States!" etc.....

#2264283 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 07:16 PM

What the hell did St. Louis acquire today that suddenly makes them better than the Red Wings?

Nothing, but they are coming fast as is Nashville...Detroit slumping at home, Datsyuk out, defensemen hurt, horrible road team, unmotivated forwards in the top 6. There is no doubt, St. Louis will pass us up.

#2264276 Defenceman Hurt

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 07:04 PM

Lids, Quincey out Commie traded, guess we'll see how deep our d is(n't)

Nice deadline day Holland!

#2264268 Columbus GM Reveals Nash Demanded Trade

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

Gee, I wonder how Wisniewski feels now about signing in Columbus...drama, drama, drama

#2264262 Columbus GM Reveals Nash Demanded Trade

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 06:36 PM

...and this just in from Columbus, for the rest of his contract, Rick Nash has developed Johan Franzen disease.

#2264259 Columbus GM Reveals Nash Demanded Trade

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 06:35 PM

Still wondering what the Nashville GM had to do with any of this.... :ninja:

#2264255 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

So Ken Holland stands pat.....again. Says asking prices are too high and nobody wants to deal with Detroit. Is that because we have nobody that anybody else wants or? Who did we think that Ken Holland was going to get with nothing to offer? Ken Holland couldn't dump Hudler for picks when he tried last season. Z,Pavel,and Flip are not going to be moved so what does that leave us to sell? The 3rd line has been the only line thats playing so they are safe. Cleary, Eaves, and the entire 4th line in a package would not have got us a top six sniper. This team has to be re-tooled after July 1st. Ken Holland will need to make some tough choices then. Players need to go (Cleary, Hudler, Eaves,Homer) and some brought in or brought up.

...and Ken Holland agrees with you, until July 1st comes around and then the end of summer, then he states that "We kicked the tires, made some inquiries but in the end there wasn't any asset out there that would fill our needs and we really like the re-siging of Bertuzzi, Hudler and Quincey. Patrick (Eaves) is at 100% so we also like him as our off-season acquisition..."

#2264232 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:55 PM


"Laugh it up Fuzzball" Nashville is only 6 point behind the Wings and coming strong. Wings cannot win on the road and their last 4-5 home games have been yawners that they barely won and lost the last two of...They may not be 6th, but they will be 3rd in the central.

#2264220 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:44 PM

And some of those wins were the "pull it out of their ass" variety in OT or shootout after they looked like s*** for at least 2 periods. But yeah, we won 23 in a row... :rolleyes:


Ya, I am not discounting the fact that they won 23 in a row or that they are flirting with 1st overall, but, if it weren't for that win streak (which had games within it they had no business winning) this team would be out of the playoffs. The road woes, the power(less)play and the inconsistent forwards are gonna be the death of this team and just because of a magical season 4 years ago, they will get a pass. Holland missed an opportunity today to send his team a message. Play or you are not wanted here. He will spout off about the draft and the UFA day, when he does nothing again, slappies will talk about the past 20 years and how he is the best in the business because a scout (not Holland himself) found Datsyuk playing in Siberia or somewhere. If they don't win the Cup, I hope Lids hangs em up and Stuart leaves, because he aint getting Suter then we will see what is broken or not.

#2264206 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

Did you people all go to the "if it ain't broke, break it" school of philosophy? To make a move just so you can say you made a move makes no sense. Do you really care that they had room under the cap and didn't use it? Makes no sense to me. Just knowing they have the room available IF a quality player can be had means more to me. If that means RFA or FA this summer, then so be it.

What's not broke? The power play? The road record? Inconsitent and lack of interest players? It is broke. If it wasn't for the win streak at home and if they played more like the average team at home, this team would be out of the playoffs right now. The ONLY constants on this team is Datsyuk, Helm, Abby, Lids and Howard. The rest? Broke...

#2264201 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:26 PM

Yeah those results have really sucked the last 20 years.

20 years mean nothing for this year. Besides you cannot count the years where he had unlimited funds to spend on trade day and UFA day. In this day and age if you want to edge, you must overpay a little to get it. By the end of the year Wings will be in third in the Central and about 6th in the playoffs. You guys who have faith in Franzen are in for a rude playoff. He is done, over, wasted. He got his life-long contract and is mailing it in for the duration. He had one great year and now he gets a pass for being s***ty. Yes, I am mad. Holland could have overspent today to shake his team up, to show he means business, either you come and give 150% or you are gone, adios! Oh wait, he did overpay, for Quincey and when he re-signs him, Hudler and Lidstrom over the summer, he will over pay even more! All while losing Stuart.