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If Draper was average, I want a team full of average players.

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Drapers prime had him making Olympic teams because of his PK ability. I dont think average is how I would describe him at all, he was always one of the best defensive forwards in the game, one of, and probably the best for a while at PKing and was the best year in and year out on faceoffs. Average offensively for a third liner maybe

I just realized why Sheldon Souray has seemingly revitalized his career. Because he's dating WWE diva Kelly Kelly. Don't know if he'll be a Norris nominee, but he should get some kind of award for this accomplishment.

I recognize I will be negged outta my rear for this, but the same could be said about pretty much the entire roster as of late. including players who usually are untouchable as far as critique goes.

In the words of the Rock, Draper knew his damn role, and he shut his damn mouth. Absolutely no reason to say anything negative about this guy. Saying any athlete that's won a prestigious award in his prime, numerous championships, and played 17 years in a professional sport is "average" is just a stupid observation. Kris Draper was a great bottom 6 forward.

Once upon a time Draper was one of, if not the best face-off man in the league, that's not very average.

I think Eaves is ready to play.

Actully no. If the ball is red, the FACT is that the ball is red. If you take that FACT and form an opinion from a different perspective and say the ball is blue, I wouldn't call that an opinion, I'd call it simply being WRONG.

I look at it this way - the Norris Trophy is Nick's to lose every season. Sometimes he wins it, sometimes he doesn't. Either way, he starts out with it.

Five wins and four losses? The coaches suck Never mind that we have two new assistants. Never mind that Babcock is one of the best in the league; the grass is guaranteed to be greener on the other side---fire him!! Cleary hasn't been doing well so far. He's terrible! Send him off the team! Nine games with less production is unacceptable! Bwahaha. OK. So nine games of bad play means that a player is horrible and that not trading him entails excessive loyalty on the part of the front office. Thank goodness you're not a GM.

Just to avoid having a thread started for every big hit, we can put everything in this one. It's a few weeks into the season, so we've got some catching up to do

The same idea as the hits thread, just to get all fighting videos and talk in one place, so we don't have a ton of different threads about fighting. Keep the conversation peaceful. I'll start with Detroit's Big E: Eric Boulton drops Douglas Murray:

Guess who's gonna be there? MEEEE!!!!!!!!!! So pumped for this game.

When? When he scored in the one game he played with Datsyuk/Cleary? Or when he scored 3 points in 4 games with Flip and Franzen? How about last year when he scored 14 points in 11 games with Datsyuk/Cleary? Or the month before that, played mostly with Flip, when he scored 12 points in 14 games? That's about the extent of his "chance" at being a top-six forward at any point in his career.

awesome thread idea! enjoy:

So we can expect to see some actual effort along the boards in tomorrow's game.

and just when you think it wont get any worse for Columbus, they give Brett Lebda a PTO (professional try out)

negged for confusing plural vs. possessive

I guess we may as well just change the website name to "Lets go Crymson" since you're obviously the only one that matters.

Negged you for not making any sense, like the rest of your posts on this site.

Everyone else in the entire league thinks that: a) Holmstrom is old, slow, and stinks b) Bertuzzi is olds, slow, and stinks c) Hudler is small, slow, and stinks Replace these three guys with FAST, YOUNG, and GOOD. That's the answer. We've got a Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Filppula, Franzen, Helm, and Abdelkader. Those 6 forwards are worth their salt. The coaching staff and GM should have enough brains to know what to do with the other 6 spots. Unfortunately, they think Holmstrom and Bertuzzi are 40 goals scorers. Babcock and Holland need to pull their heads out of their butts and realize that they don't have to throw 2011-2012 down the drain to save face with their signings and loyalty. Just put the crappy guys in the stands, and fess up to the fact that you signed them for too long.

And nothing of value was lost.

So after the last game vs the Wild, I've come to the decision that coaching is still a problem. I'm not nearly as confident in Babcock anymore. He's consistently giving players chances that have proven time and time again that they don't deserve them (Cleary, Holmstrom), he refuses to put players together that have worked incredibly well in the past (Dats and Fil), and in the last 5 minutes of the game, he played the same line for seemingly 80% of the time. I don't care how good a line is, those players are going to be too tired to be effective. We need better decisions behind the bench. We need players who are consistently playing badly to be pushed down to lower lines, so at least they get hungry for top line minutes again. Currently we're just handing players playtime who don't deserve it. Players like Helm and Fil, who are working their asses off every game aren't getting chances they deserve either. They've been two of the best players this year, and two of the players that are giving more effort than pretty much anyone else on the team. Dats, Z, and whoever isn't working. They played great for one game, but just plain haven't worked for a long time now. Z still has 3 points and a -4 and yet was given nearly 24 minutes. I don't understand how it works if players who are working hard are still not given opportunities when other players are playing like this. What kind of motivation is it to work hard if someone who's not producing is still given nearly 10 minutes more per game than you and much more PP time than you? Edit: I'm not bashing Z, I'm just saying he hasn't deserved the play time he's gotten recently. Other players who are playing badly are getting time taken away, but Z is just handed more play time every game no matter how he plays. Same thing goes for a few other players too.