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Possibly. But Bettman and the NHL made this move much more likely by not involving the NHLPA in the process until now. A while back in an interview about the realignment, Bettman was openly condescending towards the union and about how they'll check with them but don't really have to be consulted. The league went ahead with this process and by not involving the NHLPA from the start put them in the position of having to put the brakes on this if they didn't agree. Now they're painting the union as the bad guy for delaying things, which is idiotic. If there's a massive reorganization like that, doesn't it seem like they should have involved the people who actually play the hockey games BEFORE they decided to go ahead with the plan? The posturing has definitely begun, but it's not like it's only come from the NHLPA. Bettman has nothing but open disdain for the players union and sets a very divisive tone. If there is another lockout, he should absolutely be removed as commissioner. I understand he is representing the franchise owners but ultimately he represents the game, and sometimes his job means he needs to save a few idiot billionaires from themselves. A big part of his job is and should be diplomacy, which is where Bettman is the most lacking.

Franzen, Hudler, Kindl, Andresson, Ferraro, McCollum, Nestrasil, ANY of our D prospects. You just cannot pass on Perry or Getzlaf. I would acquire them both if I could. Ya, now I am dreaming in EA Sports land, but those two on Detroit would make us almost instant favorites, and face it, with the improvements Chicago and San Jose has done this year, Detroit needs to step it up and this would be a great move. We have the Cap space for both, they are signed through next season. The Wings are over their head deep in great prospects and could easily afford to give up a few of them. McCollum is NOT going to be backup to Howard, he is going to want to be a starter in the NHL and will probably leave as a Free Agent before Howard is ready to give up the #1 spot, so you could easily trade McCollum especially with how good Mrazek is playing. Next season you will be shopping or a #1 defenseman, not another #7 so Kindl and the rest of the prospects are fair game. You could go down the list of top 25 prospects in our organization and chose three or four that you could really live without, so if losing Franzen & Hudler and prospects in exchange for Getzlaf and Perry, I am doing it. You have to ask yourself, if this trade were in the works, which Detroit team has a better chance to compete with Chicago/San Jose and actually win the Cup this year or next, the one with Franzen/Hudler on it, or the one with Getzlaf/Perry? Holland made a mistake in 2009 by letting Hudler handcuff him by coming back and re-signing Franzen. He lost Hossa who said he wanted to stay and would take considerably less to do so. Here is Holland chance to make ammends on that mistake, get rid of Franzen & Hudler and make his team much better and tougher to play against in the form of Getzlaf and Perry. That is a blockbuster trade that will workout for both teams. PLUS it allows Holland to just focus on replacing Lidstrom next year instead of trying to find that power forward and sniper along with a #1 defender. I know it is hard to say goodbye to homegrown talent. Guys who have grown up in our system, but in the end, it's all about the crest on the front of the sweater. I hope Holland doesn't make the same mistakes he made in 2009 by passing on better players to keep Franzen & Hudler... EDIT: Also, ask yourself this, who you rather have these two or would you rather see Chicago, San Jose, Vancouver or worse yet Pitt or Toronto or Boston get one or both of them? If that happens then you not only lose out on acquiring two great players, but you also take two steps back from being on par with the elite teams in the NHL.

Pretty much. Canadians are upset because a 19 year old kid is excited that he scored goals against them in a big game? They were also upset that the Russians were celebrating during their 3 goal comeback in last year's Gold Medal game. How dare they celebrate? I'm just happy the other countries are getting better at this tournament. It's not just Canada winning every year now.

Sloppy Seconds!! esteef!

Ah, once again the public suffers due to a pissing contest. Bettman should have included the NHLPA, and the NHLPA should just move on. f*** both of them.

f*** em. What needs to be done in a situation like this is, move Winnipeg to the West, move Detroit to the East, and just for s***s, move Columbus to the East and move the Penguins to the Pacific. That’ll teach them.

this is nothing but a negotiation ploy for the NHLPA. Get ready everyone because another lockout is coming

Didn't Perry win the Hart Trophy last year? How many of those will Franzen win anytime soon?

Pissed.

My bad, they all look alike to me I kid

a ninja star?

Martin Frk please!!!

You have to give up something if you want something. In 2001 Holland traded away perhaps one of the best playoff performers AND prolific regular season scorer we had in order to get a goalie he felt we needed. He traded Kozlov AND a 1st for Hasek. I think an exchange that involved Franzen for either Getzlaf or Perry would be a great move. Franzen, Hudler and Kindl are three players from the big club who can and should be shopped come deadline day. If Holland could trade any combo these three plus prospects and get a Getzlaf and or Perry and or Ryan, then it is a no brainer...

Dude shouldn't have been disrespecting me, bro. Also, this is me with my *****. She just gave me head. s*** was SO cash.

I might get flamed for this but I would make a package with Franzen. Hes clutch yeah, but so Is Getzlaf. Getzlaf is only 26 and easily a top 5 center in the league, he isnt injury prone like Franzen is either and isnt locked into a long term contract. Getzlaf plays solid defensively as well.

The League has the best officiating of any sport. Just ask Bettman; he'll tell you.

Torts has plenty of money, he still got what he wanted which was drawing attention to ridiculous calls that seemed to be made to make the game more dramatic, fairness be damned. Good on Torts. esteef

I'm pretty sure that Kopecky fought Samuelsson at practice once... There were no survivors

Moon the crowd!! esteef

Badass celebration

or this: cutest thing, ever. "Look at me!!! I'm a Red Wing!!!"

I would like to learn the players names that said Barch made the slur. That is pretty pathetic to cry like a grade school kid and say HE SAID ....... Get over it racial slurs are said almost day around my area and Im not saying that like im proud of it or anything at all. Maybe its a canadian thing how they like to pretend they are so sensitive to everyone. I say get over it and take care of yourself. If someone is a racist oh well it does not affect you.

Bobby Ryan or Ryan Getzlaf please. Thank you.

If the season was approximately 7 games, he might have a shot.