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Solution on D: Kronner - Big E Smitty - Q Laser - Dekeyser Kindl (Huskins) No need to waste a trade on big name defender....our D will continue to grow and gel. IF a trade is made it will be for scoring help...

Injuries are exactly the time when a player like Tatar should get top line minutes. Perfect opportunity to see what he's got with comparable linemates. When we're healthy he absolutely won't get a chance, we all know that. Underutilization of talent by Babs IMO. esteef

My guess on why that line exists, can be answered in photo form

Oh yeah, the flukey goal from the dman that bounced off the boards and the goalie's skate and went in. How could I forget about that pure domination? esteef

Visors should be mandatory for all players entering the league. They're already use to them. There is not a single valid argument of why they shouldn't be mandatory. Players use to be against helmets, but sometimes you need to protect played from themselves.

Holland, Stan Bowman and Paul Holmgren sat down for a conversation with ESPN's Pierre LeBrun regarding possible trade mindsets for their respective teams. When the conversation came around to the Red Wings needs, Kenny Holland says the phrase we all know we LOVE to hear... (emphasis mine) LeBrun wraps up the Wings section nicely by pointing out the Wings would like a top-4 D man, but that might be hard to get come deadline time. I'd recommend giving the full story a read.

They have lost....just not in regulation. We as Detroit fans know all to well that while NHL records are nice, they don't mean crap in the playoffs. I am not trying to downplay the Hawks and their fans and "The Record," but not unless this equates to a Hoisting of the Cup, it's it means nothing. Much like 1996....

if were trading im looking for a forward to play with datsyuk and kick cleary out of the line up

Never understood the fascination with Bouwmeester

We are 4-4-3 in our last 11 games. Take away the 8-goal trouncing we gave Luongo and the Nucks, and we're averaging just barely over 2 goals per game. If it wasn't for Howard coming around and heating up over the last stretch, we would be much, much worse off. That line isn't producing, and we need it to. Period.

Do you know how many of your threads I've come into and complained about one way or another? ZERO. You obviously like my threads, or you wouldn't keep posting in them. It's really interesting that you have the highest posting percentage in threads started by The Axe. Yes, I read the stats. And you post in 92.5% of my threads, and your posts account for 6.3% of the total amount of posts. So if you're so unhappy, why do you keep interacting in my threads? Just ignore me already!!! Anyways, I am thinking that Cleary and Abdelkader will stay in the line-up once our injuries heal, but I just posted on what I would like to see. Odds are that Emmerton and Eaves are on the hot seat once we have the 4 forwards we are missing available.

not to stray away from the NHL but it wasn't mandatory in NASCAR to wear what's called the HANS device until they lost Dale Earnhardt in 2001. Sure it was always an option and available, but drivers hated wearing it and drivers like Earnhardt and Tony Stewart among others refused to do so. Even after his death the device met with a lot of resistance, but today there isn't a driver who would think twice about NOT wearing it. NASCAR and US Motorsports just made it mandatory within all sanctioned stock events and the "kids" "grew up" using the device and now it is like second nature to them...even the old guys that were around before 2001 now have been wearing in for over a decade and it has become a part of their car, not just a cumbersome restraint system... The same would happen with the NHL if they adopted the visor and Kevlar protection, it about 5 or so years, nobody would even think about what it was like without it... who was it back in the early 90's that wore what looked like football shoulder pads with a protector that was behind his helmet? If I figure it out and find a picture, I will post it....I think he played for the Sabres, but am not sure....

I say no, but as with the other PSE you mentioned, I have a feeling that soon all of it will be. There is just no reason why they shouldn't be. Right now in the USA most kids grow up using the ear guards on their helmets and neck guards, it will ne just a matter of time until it is SOP for our kids to start using all the stuff you mentioned so by time they get to college, junior, NHL it won't affect their play at all because they grew up with it and would have learned the game with it from day one. Much like the helmet now, NHL players wouldn't even think about ever playing without it, and soon it will that way for the visor, Kevlar, neck guards, etc...none of which, as you said, restricts play at all... You would think that a huge company like Under Armor would partner with the NHL and lessor leagues, even into college levels and develop a body suit (or shirt pant combo) than has the Kevlar in it. With all the recent injuries due to skates, sticks and pucks, it's a no brainer...and speaking of brainer, the concussion is a whole other conundrum...

Datsyuk needs a gun on that line. Get Eaves up with Datsyuk, Bring Abdelkader down to center Andersson and Tatar. Switch Franzen n Cleary. Trying something on the second is better than having nothing happen. Zetterburg and Brunner can compensate for the short comings of Cleary. Nyquist is Good for Grand Rapids, From the games he has played for the Wings I find that Tatar had the quicker to adapt ability to the competitiveness of the NHL. Nyquist needs to find that lil something more that will make him successful at the NHL level. But then it could be just an expectation created from other posters on these forums, but I just don't see it during his time with the Wings.

Yeah this line needs to go. I know we are thin because of injuries but there are options out there. I don't see why Z has both Franzen and Brunner on his wing. Let Franzen play with Datsyuk, and then preferably throw Tatar on that line. Franzen-Datsyuk-Tatar sounds a whole lot better than Clearly-Datsyuk-Abdelkader. I'd love Nyquist to be called up for a spot on that second line with Z and Brunner, and then when Fil comes back he slots into that spot. I hate being one to pretend I know more than an NHL coach, but this line is just frustrating to watch and it is getting a little baffling as to why it is still together when everyone can pretty plainly see it isn't working.

Last night wasn't just about talent, though. He put forth a good effort, got in the right places to score and looked to be a step quicker than in previous games. Take away the goal, and he still created lots of chances and had a solid game. Really hope he can continue to push it.

seriously, this is basically the same thread as 5 others, why do you need to start a new thread to talk about the same things?

I advise you to stop letting this guy bait you.

points count as points, 21 points out of a possible 38, is above .500

If Kenny can't realize that a player like Lashof is one the best current DEF and he's not going after top 2 D, he's stupid. We need to get rid of; Q, Carlo the glass, White... and bring some true D

Much better game tonight.

No, they have similiar skills. Hossa uses his and frnazen does not. That is the difference. If we could merge Cleary's heart and effort with Franzens natural God given talent, we would have a 50 goal scorer. But at 33 years of age, that just isn't happening.

This is definitely true. But if he was on his game every night, do you think we'd be paying him the same amount? I totally get the frustration here, but I think some people think that it would be perfectly natural to have a 40-50 goal-scorer (as he almost certainly would be if he tried) for under 4 million/yr. Realistically, this is why long term bargain contracts are bad. He IS earning the money that he's making, whether people like to admit it or not. There's just an infuriating amount of potential that he refuses to tap into.

Funny joke..... right? Your 2014 team is worse than the current team. I don't even think NHL13 would let you ice that team.... Do you even know anything about Thomas McCollum? What happened to the dislike button?

Reddit sucks. Someone needs to tell them their website is stuck in the 90s.