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I'm not sure why we're having this debate again. History has shown that being evermore violent in response to things we don't like ALWAYS works out well. Absolutely tons and tons of examples when punching people has effectively helped folks achieve their objectives. That has got to be the most idiotic thing a person can think. By comparison it makes GMRwings' "I like fighting because it's entertaining" argument both honest, and sensible. Can all the fighting people just use that argument? That way we don't have to keep restating how intellectually bankrupt this "fighting deters rats" argument is. I'll even help. "For as long as I can remember, I (state your name here), have enjoyed fighting in hockey. I find it entertaining and exciting. As such, I am willing to tolerate the short and long term health risks that come along with it and believe players who engage in the sport should too." At least then your position won't be so demonstrably invalided and your justifications so blatantly post hoc.

I think at the beginning of the game, every player should stand in a line and the home team chooses his opponent, then they joust to decide whoa going to be aloud to be rats for the game. And the team that gets to be rats, has to where rat mascot outfits the entire game. Problem. Solved.

Frank, I'll agree with you on one thing, Avery getting more games for his retort than blatant head shots is wrong. I'm not defending Avery, but it illustrates an issue we see everyday where violence is accepted and sex isn't. Look at how censorship is handled on TV, murder is fine on prime time but show a nipple or backside and its a no go. It's no wonder everybody acts out violently, it's the only socially acceptable way to cope with sexual repression! Well save for Brian MacGratton, I mean his girlfriend is hooooooott!!

Aw man, I thought we were HOMIES. Why you gotta talk so rough?

Where do you get this stuff? No one said anything about banning hits or making the nets bigger.I know you love fighting, frank; I've made it clear that I dont. However, our positions on that issue don't necessarily dictate our positions on the issue at hand. There is a huge difference between targeting an unsuspecting players head and engaging in a consentual fistfight. There is no debate that the former has no place in hockey, but the latter still has plenty of supporters. All I am asking is that the league punishes headshots severely enough to deter players from targeting the head.

One look from this face would make Benn pet Zetterberg's head rather than punch it.

Or maybe Ericsson doesn't punch hard enough? McGrattan would have punched Benn into the next dimension.

Video does clearly show Abby pushing Stars goalie... Eh, I will take it as we been burned in the past

No one would run our guys if they saw this coming

1g, 3a in a dominant performance tonight as Michigan beat Ohio State 5-2. I fully expect him to spend 1 more year at Michigan and then go to Grand Rapids. This kid continues to impress.

Did I say anything about turning hockey into soccer? Did I say anything about eliminating hitting? Did I say anything about increasing the net size? You are just taking my argument to the extreme in an attempt to dismiss what I am saying. We are on the same page Frank with protection of our star players, but your philosophy on how to do this (an eye for an eye) does not work. It leads to more injuries and more guys getting hurt. There is a reason why so many players are suing the NHL right now,(I'm sure many of which that were fighters). To protect our star players (all players for that matter, I don't believe the lower end guys don't matter) we need to eliminate cheap shots from the game. To say that fines/suspensions are not going to happen is silly. Things are moving in this direction, it wont happen over night, but with all the lawsuits and all the new research coming out on head trauma, it's headed in this direction.

"The notion of The Outrage Police is as hollow and disingenuous as it gets – and most importantly, it doesn’t make what Rielly said right. To repeat: he’s 20 years old and not a monster, but he said something you can’t say anymore, people let him know, and he said he was sorry. That’s the way the process is supposed to work. And the people who want to distract from that basic fact by focusing on anything other than the women who are telling us what he said was wrong are polar bears on an ever-shrinking rhetorical ice floe, letting out embarrassing death rattles as they fail to adjust to a world that’s rolling right over their prized prejudices. Clearly, some men don’t like being confronted by voices other than those of their ever-forgiving frat boy buddies. Too bad. Whether they like it or not, this issue is another example of two tectonic cultural plates pushing against one another – and, as is always the case, the progressive, fair-minded plate is eventually going to push the ignorant, divisive plate deeper into the earth, precisely where it belongs." Absolutely right.

@TheHockeyNews: THN's @Proteautype writes on Morgan Riellys mistake, casual misogyny and the empty idea of The Outrage Police: http://t.co/pvjiyGQNU7

I heard there was a lot of this

For some reason, Z's head doesn't matter. We all remember what happened when that scumbag weber crushed his helmet.

Benn should be suspended for at least 5 games. He's the 'example' and leader as Stars' Captain. Zetterberg is a CAPTAIN and acts like it. In my opinion, Benn should lose the "C" on his sweater for this. But it's the NHL, and only my opinion. So that won't happen. Hope Z is OK, and we can move on, for sure. It's OK. I knew what you meant. I expect most here did. Z is more 'valuable' in terms of heart and leadership, not that Mule isn't great to have on the ice, if and when he's able.

Franzen being out is OK with me. Rather his spot be filled by one of the kids who actually wants to play. Hope Z will be alright and back in the lineup soon.

Malik summed it up for me: "The Detroit Red Wings' 7-6 win over the Dallas Stars was wild, woolly, insanely bipolar and completely, totally unnecessary should the Wings have even marginally showed up mentally."

You're acting like really leafish bro.

Ironically enough, didn't Toronto's women's hockey team win their cup this past year? Toronto would do well to add some of those ladies to their team...you know, considering they know how to NOT lose...

Maybe they can stream a movie about it. And, I'm no clown, or juggler (or juggalo, for that matter). #TANKITTHAMUUVIE

I will fight Morgan Rielly. He can call me a girl the entire time I'm beating his ass.

It's pretty obvious to me that frank's favorite NHL team is Canada.

Kindl out for a rookie. Cleary out. Pulkinnen in. Gustavsson out for Mrazek. Andersson maybe out. Anyone wanting a lot of changes is going to be disappointed.

In Soviet Russia player drain you!