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Refuse to lose for Hughes

I'd love to see Holland take a flyer on Zykov. Big, skilled right-handed winger, with top six potential. I remember being really high on him in his draft year. He hasn't panned out yet, but he's still only 23 years old. Off to a rough start this season, but put up 7 points (3 goals, 4 assists) in 10 games with the Canes and 54 points (33 goals, 21 assists) in 63 games with the Checkers last season.

You know who doesn't fear them? This guy:

I think we have a number of players in our system right now that will fill in seven or eight of those question marks. A good draft this year with a defenseman involved will go along way in completing or rebuild.

That for the most part, our young guys are the ones that are doing the scoring and we aren't being led by our older vets. Larkin, Mantha, AA, Bert, and Cholo are all doing well. Ras is contributing and looks good. Hopefully we get four or five players from last years draft and a couple more this year.

Another counterpoint: Filip Zadina.

Counterpoint: Refusing to move Nyquist doesn't necessarily guarantee that Nyquist will re-sign with the Wings.

And the team can either be named the Milwaukee Mullets or the Cheese Curds!!!!!

You two should get married. That's legal in all 50 states now.

Tatar had term on his deal tho. And Vegas had picks to burn. I think a 1st is a reasonable expectation.

Meh. I think he was most likely to be a depth guy anyway.

Shut down LGW.com. Pack it in. This post will never be topped.

I think the difference is chemistry and speed. Landeskog - Mackinnon - Rantanen line is clicking on a super high level. They're unstoppable together. I think it's similar to what's going on in Buffalo. The addition of Dahlin hasn't been the difference maker for them this year, it was more or less the addition of Jeff Skinner. Skinner - Eichel - Pominville/Reinhart line has been completely in tune and is carrying that team. Oilers have good chem between McDavid and that German fellow... but then they're usually paired with some slow azz punk like Chiasson or Lucic. Of course Chia, the genius that he is, has the fastest player in the world and therefore decides to surround him with a bunch of big slow players We should trade Abdelkader...

So Boston, Tampa, Colorado, and Toronto. I guess fearing Colorado and Toronto is a thing now... I gotta get used to it yet These four games should be good and important to watch. How we perform in these will be a good measure of just how well this team stacks up against the big boys. If we drop all four might be a good indicator that we need some more tanking

Duh Hockeymom your subconscious is working overtime on ya. It knows you would have Beer AND Fried Cheese Curds at every concession stand who could want more? I am ready to sign any petition for a Wisconsin team based on that alone. Probably based on dietary habits the seats would be bigger also.

<----- Born & raised 'Cheesehead'

Well their issue is they dont wanna pay him because they need the cap space this summer to re-sign their other boys right? And we don't have any cap space to give Nylander the big contract he wants, so we would have to off load to them expiring contracts. So in theory that trade probably begins with Nyquist. After that I don't know how much term + cap they are willing to take on. Nylander could end up an overpaid version of Nyquist. Not sure I'd take that gamble honestly.

Depends on what exactly that compensation is, naturally. I guess I'd put it this way: The offer would have to really get my HYPE! juices flowing. Sort of an "I'll know the right offer when I see it" kind of thing. I'm assuming Holland's thinking the same thing, though I'm sure his definition of "too good to refuse" differs a bit from mine.

Then again, a 2nd from St. Louis might be a 30's pick. Again, trading both Nyquist and Howard is not about "getting rid" of them, it's about acquiring assets to make this team's rebuild better and faster. We can always re-sign them in July if we want them to retire Red Wings. And if getting a couple of 1st's or maybe a higher end prospect for a couple of months of not having them, I am all aboard! Also, Gus and Jimmy should be as well. It just means that we have that much of a better team for them to come back to!

Allen + 2020 1st. I do that if we can't get one of those 2 righties.

Dreger also says that once a GM is named in Philly, they will be searching for a goalie. We could get handsomely compensated for Jimmy.

Points update: Bertuzzi (2 goals) - 8 goals and 15 points thru 25 games Green (2 assists) - 2 goals and 13 points thru 16 games Athanasiou (1 goal) - 11 goals and 16 points thru 21 games Nyquist (1 assist) - 3 goals and 18 points thru 25 games

4 8 15 16 23 42

Last night was the first time this entire season that Mackinnon scored a goal and Rantanen didn't assist on it. And Mackinnon and Rantanen are the only players in the league who've breached 40 pts so far. They're both on pace for around 135 pts Meanwhile Landeskog sucks big ones lol with a measly 28 pts in 25 games haha what a loser