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1. The whole comparing players and their draft positions is a fool's errand. If a guy drafted in the 3rd round turns into a 90 point player and a guy drafted in the top 10 turns into a 70 point player, does that make the 1st rounder a bust? That's silly reasoning IMO. 2. What are reasonable expectations for Zadina? I would argue a 30 goal/ 60 point player is reasonable IMO. If he becomes a 70 point or PPG guy, that's a bonus for me. Has anyone really seen enough at this point to say, with any reasonable argument, that he won't become that? I haven't. So let's be real, and wait for real evidence (not conjecture) before we declare anything, shall we? 3. Players develop at different rates. Comparing Zadina to Larkin is completely ridiculous. Some guys make the NHL right from the draft and never become more than average NHLers. They peaked sooner and everyone expected them to continue to progress. Other guys flounder in juniors, overseas, and/or the AHL for a couple seasons and manage to develop into superstars. They're late bloomers. Every guy is different. Comparisons are inaccurate and unfair. FiFY. Maybe he should filiPinch them.

To be disappointed that Zadina didn't light up the AHL and get a call up to be full time for the Wings is totally reasonable. I wish that would've happened too. However: Nailed it.

Larkin was a steal in his draft. If there were a 2014 re-draft, he would be a top 5, possibly top 3 pick. In saying that, I agree that Larkin should be used as somewhat of a measuring stick for our future stars. However, just because Zadina isn't where Larkin was at the same age, doesn't mean s*** to me. Zadina could still be as good or better in 2-3 years time. I'm not saying he will be, or even that I think he will be, just that he could be. Larkin and Zadina have taken completely different paths to get to the NHL, so why should we expect the same results right out of the gate? And who's to say, Zadina wouldn't have had similar numbers if he played a full season in the NHL? I watched quite a few Griffins games this past season, and I know for a fact that Zadina was often a victim of circumstance. I lost count of the number of times he made plays that his lines mates couldn't finish, or he was in the right place, and his linemates couldn't get him the puck. Maybe if he played a full season with Larkin (Zetterberg) in the NHL, he would have put up better numbers. Who knows? Either way, to call Zadina a bust after one season is beyond f***ing stupid in my opinion...

Top two, maybe

No.

Interesting... this topic is 2019 Draft.... yet there is a WHOLE lot of talk about the 2018 Draft... Get back on the topic already.

If he’s a bust Rasmussen is the next pat Falloon ... fa who? Exactly

Zadina is lazy and he busts

So it means he had a disappointing first season. I'm not in the habit of sticking my head in the sand when a player has a bad season relative to expectations just because he might one day be better. And I don't think it's as "dumb" or "******* stupid" as some of you seem to think it is to express concern about it. 35 pts and -17 in the AHL does not meet the standards I have for a supposed future star of this team, even in his first season. Simple as that. I'm expecting a much bigger second season out of him. If he can make the team and contribute 30-50 pts next season I would be happy, or if he can dominate the AHL and put up like 50-70 pts I'd feel better. He's got to get his plus/minus up to. It's not my primary concern, but his is shockingly bad. By far the worst in that stat on the team. 1257 players played in the AHL last year. Zadina ranked 1224 in plus/minus. Yikes. No that's what I think is likely based on what I've seen so far. His floor is idk, 30 pt winger? But I think that's unlikley His ceiling is probably like 80 pts... at least that's what I thought when we drafted him.

Not missing your point at all. Age is not the major factor here. I guarantee you, GMs, coaches, etc. do not look at age to determine readiness. You need to consider experience and at what level of hockey. The better comparison is really to look at where a player has progressed since being drafted.

you are a true gentlemen

Same. I'm still pretty confident though.

Z-Pinch will be good. Dude still has zits. Give him a break already.

Well all I know if it's SJ and BOS and Boston wins which I'm predicting.....yawn!

You're a legendary troll, the whole victim thing you got going on right now is good stuff. How so? You think Zadina's a bust after one season, that's stupid.

The first two are obvious. It looks like Bowen has cemented himself into the three spot with a great playoff. I haven't heard anything negative about Turcotte for a while so he goes four or five. I have a hunch Dach goes next. That leaves Cozins or Podkolzin for us. I like Cozins

Oh man, if they could pull it out in 7 that would be a heavy burn, but that's pretty unlikely. Never say never, I guess. If Boston plays SJ or STL, doesn't matter as long as they win their franchise first cup by beating Boston. The Thornton storyline would be cool. He doesn't look like he's got much left in him. Let the man finally raise one and retire.

Damn it, Krs. You were doing good.