MTU_Huskies963 398 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) here's a gif of the palat hit Edited April 28, 2015 by MTU_Huskies963 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nyquistfan14 489 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I just watched it three times again. Is it just me or was it not even that bad? Havlat was worse... Ya that wasn't even bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I think he'll be suspended. Primary contact is the head and to make it look worse he follows through with the left arm motion (not sure if it matters or not that kucherov was low the whole way to the point that head contact was inevitable ). If Kronner would have fully turned his back like he has in the past, this wouldn't be an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 And the NHL continues to prove that their disciplinary process is a joke... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 Detroit is cheating. 1 wings7 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings7 62 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I'm confused that this is going to review. I'm also worried because why would it unless they planned on suspending him. Though, Suh. Different league but similar. I bet 1 game suspension. Kindl comes in. 3 points. Wings 5 Lightning 1 After game, "They cheated, Kindl never plays." - J Cooper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 What about Garrison's hit to Abdlekader's head in near the end of game 5? The NHL has been waiting years to punish Kronwall. This is their chance to do that AND push hockey in Florida. We call that a "Bettman Bonus". 2 Izzy24 and MrazekFanBoy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 Here we are two pages into this thread and all I have seen are threats, whining, bitching, and complaining. The thing is that nothing has been decided upon yet. Maybe we all should take a step back and wait until a verdict is rendered before passing judgement on the NHL, player safety board, Betteman, etc. Just my opinion. 1 chicagooverrated reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I'm confused that this is going to review. I'm also worried because why would it unless they planned on suspending him. Though, Suh. Different league but similar. I bet 1 game suspension. Kindl comes in. 3 points. Wings 5 Lightning 1 After game, "They cheated, Kindl never plays." - J Cooper I'm pretty sure Weber got a hearing and then only a fine after the Zetterberg incident.. I'm sure it's happened other times before. Hearing doesn't necessarily mean suspension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings7 62 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I'm pretty sure Weber got a hearing and then only a fine after the Zetterberg incident.. I'm sure it's happened other times before. Hearing doesn't necessarily mean suspension. Obviously I hope you're right ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingedWheel91 271 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 As inconsistent as the NHL Department of Player Safety seems to be at times, I think they still primarily focus on 2 aspect's of each reviewable play (much more than any other's): Injury + History. Because a hearing doesn't guarantee a suspension, I think the 2 main factors in the decision to only FINE Kronwall are as follows: (1) Kucherov was NOT injured on the play + (2) Kronwall does NOT have any suspension history with the NHLDPS - Actually, he doesn't even have a review history because the Havlat hit was a game misconduct for interference... And interference (at the time) wasn't even grounds for an infraction leading to a game misconduct (which pissed me off). If I'm wrong and he is suspended, I'd like to channel the 2007 Anaheim Ducks when we beat them 5-0 in Game 3, Pronger got suspended the next game for a hit on Holmstrom (where he also wasn't even penalized on the play) and the Ducks came back and beat us 5-3 in Game 4. 1 derblaueClaus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandon27 111 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I think it's safe to say Kronner won't suite up for game 7. Apparently a 2 handed slash from PK to an opponents wrist is 'OK', but nailing a guy with his head down (although Kronner drove thru him, and left his feet a bit) will be suspended...Oh well. Yes. It is ok to deliberately slash a players wrist. It doesn't lead to a concussion. Kronwalls hit... to me.. first point of contact is the shoulder/neck area. I won't say head, but you know with the focus in sports, at all levels to eliminate concussions, any sort of high hit like that is going to get the attention. A slash to the wrist is irrelevant to the NHL when compared to a hit that could possibly result in a concussion. It didn't in this case apparently, but I fully expect some sort of release from the NHL saying they felt it was a high hit. Targeted or not, wont matter. They'll consider it reckless because it landed "high" on the body. I don't agree with it, but it's how they've called them before. If theyre calling a hearing about it, I'd be prepared for a suspension if I'm the Wings. It sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 Anybody know roughly when the hearing is and when we will have word of the disciplinary action? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,520 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I'm not actually worried about it. If history is any indication, Kindl will come in and score a goal and an assist in Game 7. He will then be banished back into the nether realm...of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I'm not actually worried about it. If history is any indication, Kindl will come in and score a goal and an assist in Game 7. He will then be banished back into the nether realm...of course. Exactly. And Kronwall hasn't exactly been awesome this series. Far from it. The real question is, what the parings will be? One obvious choice would be to simply make DeKeyser/Quincey your top pairing. But then it gets even scarier after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt198913 932 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 He will be gone 2 games. I have no doubts, and we will still win game 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTU_Huskies963 398 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 who decides when to look at these hits I really feel like it's the attention the media gives. Abdelkader has been hit in the head a least 3 times. Palat leaps at glendening makes contact with the head ,nothing. It's sad that the media has to really latch on to hits for them to get noticed. 1 rick zombo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 Anybody know roughly when the hearing is and when we will have word of the disciplinary action? All I've heard is "this afternoon".... I'd guess we'll know sometime around 2-3 o'clock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 Exactly. And Kronwall hasn't exactly been awesome this series. Far from it. The real question is, what the parings will be? One obvious choice would be to simply make DeKeyser/Quincey your top pairing. But then it gets even scarier after that. This is a joke. Kronwall has not been very good? Have you forgotten Stamkos has not scored a goal yet in this series? Lots of that is because of Kronwall playing against him. Sure he does not put the points up that Lidstrom did, but Kronwall is doing a fine job imo and we have zero chance of winning game 7 without him. I swear some fans are so ridiculous. Now, if Kronners is suspended then the NHL is a complete joke. I am thinking if anything he is fined, but we will see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I still don't think the hit was that bad. It looks bad, but slowed down you see his fore arm makes chest contact and then the follow through is what gets Kucherovs head. There's been worse in the playoffs, and yet I wouldn't be surprised if he's suspended because it's the NHL after all. Frustrating as a fan, the wings barely hit all season long and are kind of wimpy, finally get to see a crushing check and the media won't shut up about how dirty it is. Meanwhile Subban targets the best player on the Sens, no suspension, and the media heralds his ability to deal with adversity. Really? Garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) This is a joke. Kronwall has not been very good? Have you forgotten Stamkos has not scored a goal yet in this series? Lots of that is because of Kronwall playing against him. Sure he does not put the points up that Lidstrom did, but Kronwall is doing a fine job imo and we have zero chance of winning game 7 without him. I swear some fans are so ridiculous. Now, if Kronners is suspended then the NHL is a complete joke. I am thinking if anything he is fined, but we will see. You want your number one defenseman to score more than 1G, 5A in the 25 playoff games he's played since Lidstrom retired. So no, he hasn't been very good. Edited April 28, 2015 by GMRwings1983 1 ShanahanMan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I'm not actually worried about it. If history is any indication, Kindl will come in and score a goal and an assist in Game 7. He will then be banished back into the nether realm...of course. In all seriousness, will we be better off with Kindl playing over Zidlicky in game 7? We actually might be. He hasn't been especially good on PP, and his D has been terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 I'm not actually worried about it. If history is any indication, Kindl will come in and score a goal and an assist in Game 7. He will then be banished back into the nether realm...of course. Where he belongs. Kindl is not an NHL defenseman. I'd rather Marchenko or even XO play over Kindl. With Kindl in the lineup he typically plays such sheltered minutes that everyone else has to pick up the slack. And our defensive core isn't good enough for that. Especially without Kronwall. So Kindl may look ok, but if you played Quincey 16 minutes a game starting in the offensive zone whenever humanly possible, he'd look like Shea Weber. As for this hit, I have no idea if Kronwall will be suspended. He probably should be, but the league has passed on several incidents that were suspension worthy. He did that "exploding up" garbage I thought he had taken out of his game, and even a favorable description would be a forearm shiver or clothesline. Bottom line is it was a bad looking hit that involved head contact. And he went airborne to make the hit. It's part of the problem with his penchant for coming in backwards. It's hard to see where the guy your trying to hit is going and adjust. 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 792 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Ok...so Kronwall gets a call from the league for his hit but this one doesn't? Garrison jumps up leaves his feet well before the initial ht into Abby If he gets 2 games for it I will not watch the next game. F the league. F'n Suban can 2 handed chop and break someones wrist without anything but this is what gets the first suspension? Edited April 28, 2015 by hillbillywingsfan 1 nyqvististhefuture reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,520 Report post Posted April 28, 2015 Where he belongs. Kindl is not an NHL defenseman. I'd rather Marchenko or even XO play over Kindl. With Kindl in the lineup he typically plays such sheltered minutes that everyone else has to pick up the slack. And our defensive core isn't good enough for that. Especially without Kronwall. So Kindl may look ok, but if you played Quincey 16 minutes a game starting in the offensive zone whenever humanly possible, he'd look like Shea Weber. As for this hit, I have no idea if Kronwall will be suspended. He probably should be, but the league has passed on several incidents that were suspension worthy. He did that "exploding up" garbage I thought he had taken out of his game, and even a favorable description would be a forearm shiver or clothesline. Bottom line is it was a bad looking hit that involved head contact. And he went airborne to make the hit. It's part of the problem with his penchant for coming in backwards. It's hard to see where the guy your trying to hit is going and adjust. Take it easy Harold, I was being a smartass. Not lobbying for Kindl. Shoot over to the Zidlicky bashing thread and you'll see I actually defended how the defense has played thus far in the series. I'm not at all upset with the current makeup of the blueline, and was speaking more to Kindl's weird trend of coming in off the bench this season and looking really good, only to wind up right back on the bench. Which says as much about him as it does about anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites