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2017 NHLTrade Deadline Discussion

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Simple, do the Wings Buy to try to make the playoffs or SELL to get draft picks and rebuild.  

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I can't believe that Holland has done essentially nothing at this point.   I really dont understand what he's waiting for.  He can't possibly think that hanging onto guys on expiring deals, or re-signing Smith is a good idea at this point.  Take anything you can get, it's better than guys that aren't going to be here for the future.  You're not making the playoffs, the roster isnt good enough.  The coach isn't good enough.  Make the damn team better already.  Sell off the wasted space!

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6 minutes ago, brandon27 said:

I can't believe that Holland has done essentially nothing at this point.   I really dont understand what he's waiting for.  He can't possibly think that hanging onto guys on expiring deals, or re-signing Smith is a good idea at this point.  Take anything you can get, it's better than guys that aren't going to be here for the future.  You're not making the playoffs, the roster isnt good enough.  The coach isn't good enough.  Make the damn team better already.  Sell off the wasted space!

What's Cory Cross up to these days?  

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22 minutes ago, GMRwings1983 said:

What's Cory Cross up to these days?  

Only good trade deal I remember him making was Stuart from the Kings in 08. 

Still fuming over Jarnkrok a few years ago. 

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37 minutes ago, greenrebellion said:

Holland is probably satisfied after trading Jurco. He'll come out later this week and say he kicked some tires but wasn't willing to part with Smith or Vanek for less than they are worth 

This.  He's going to say kicking tires again like the idiot he is.

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1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Wonder what the price for Duclair is...

I called the Rags idiots for shipping him out when they did. They cited work ethic problems with him. Seemed like they were wrong about that last year, but now he's in the AHL with the yotes citing work ethic problems. So i dont know about that kid. Not sure I want him in our lockerroom. 

With Shattenkirk off the market now teams will start seriously looking at Smith. Vanek is probably the best forward available as well. 

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What do you know, Pagnotta is reporting that Detroit is really heating up. Taking late night calls on Sheahan, Tatar, Nyquist, and Ott.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thefourthperiod/status/836423823050358785

Sounds like Kens pulling an all nighter boys and girls. Not just sitting on his thumbs. Surprising that Vanek and Smith arent mentioned.

Tomorrow might be our day. Pens lost the race on Shattenkirk. I see them and the Rags calling for Smith now. Hopefully Kenny can get 2 deals done tomorrow and a third done on dead line day. Vanek to chicago seems like a no brainer. 

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1 hour ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Vanek and smith are starting to look like the best options for most teams now ....I swear to god if holland doesn't trade them now  and brings back smith 

 

1 hour ago, greenrebellion said:

Holland is probably satisfied after trading Jurco. He'll come out later this week and say he kicked some tires but wasn't willing to part with Smith or Vanek for less than they are worth 

 

25 minutes ago, Jonas Mahonas said:

This.  He's going to say kicking tires again like the idiot he is.

http://www.stresstostrength.com/anticipatory-stress/

14 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

What do you know, Pagnotta is reporting that Detroit is really heating up. Taking late night calls on Sheahan, Tatar, Nyquist, and Ott.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thefourthperiod/status/836423823050358785

Sounds like Kens pulling an all nighter boys and girls. Not just sitting on his thumbs. Surprising that Vanek and Smith arent mentioned.

Tomorrow might be our day. Pens lost the race on Shattenkirk. I see them and the Rags calling for Smith now. Hopefully Kenny can get 2 deals done tomorrow and a third done on dead line day. Vanek to chicago seems like a no brainer. 

Fingers crossed, now that the major players are off the table the ball is in Holland's court. Hopefully he is able to get a good return for our UFA's. If we can end up with two 1st's and a 2nd for Sheahan, Vanek, and Smith, I will be fricken elated! 

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Had this thought. How willing are you guys willing to take back a bad contract in a trade? Like a Dustin Brown or Marian Gaborik?

To DET: Brown + 1st rounder

To LA: Vanek + Smith

Of course youre committing to 5+ years of rebuild with this style move. I dont think Ken has an appetite for it, just thinking out loud

6 minutes ago, kliq said:

 

 

http://www.stresstostrength.com/anticipatory-stress/

Fingers crossed, now that the major players are off the table the ball is in Holland's court. Hopefully he is able to get a good return for our UFA's. If we can end up with two 1st's and a 2nd for Sheahan, Vanek, and Smith, I will be fricken elated! 

Just remembered Colorado has done nothing so far and the rumors about Duchene and Landeskog have really died. I could see them making a big splash tomorrow and stealing our thunder. 

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4 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Had this thought. How willing are you guys willing to take back a bad contract in a trade? Like a Dustin Brown or Marian Gaborik?

To DET: Brown + 1st rounder

To LA: Vanek + Smith

Of course youre committing to 5+ years of rebuild with this style move. I dont think Ken has an appetite for it, just thinking out loud

I don't see that happening.  Honestly, I'm worried that, like Aaron Ward tweeted, that we are going to end up signing Smith to a 3 year 3.75 per contract.  That'll piss a lot of people off, since he hadn't earned that.  Just like E and DK.  Over-inflated D salaries abound!

Just to clarify, Ward tweeted "if" we re-sign him, those figures are likely.

8 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

Had this thought. How willing are you guys willing to take back a bad contract in a trade? Like a Dustin Brown or Marian Gaborik?

To DET: Brown + 1st rounder

To LA: Vanek + Smith

Of course youre committing to 5+ years of rebuild with this style move. I dont think Ken has an appetite for it, just thinking out loud

Just remembered Colorado has done nothing so far and the rumors about Duchene and Landeskog have really died. I could see them making a big splash tomorrow and stealing our thunder. 

Remember, Landeskog is signed through 20/21 at 5.75 per and Duchene through 18/19 at 6 per.  They are more likely to be traded in the offseason, not as rentals.

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1 minute ago, SwedeLundin77 said:

I don't see that happening.  Honestly, I'm worried that, like Aaron Ward tweeted, that we are going to end up signing Smith to a 3 year 3.75 per contract.  That'll piss a lot of people off, since he hadn't earned that.  Just like E and DK.  Over-inflated D salaries abound!

Just to clarify, Ward tweeted "if" we re-sign him, those figures are likely.

Like I said earlier, im really hoping the wings are just pumping up his value in anticipation of Shattenkirk leaving the market. Teams like the pens and Toronto were never going to submit a serious offer on Smith until Shatty got moved. Now hes moved and the work begins on selling a hopefully inflated Smith. If Holland actually re-signs him ill put a fist through something. 

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6 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Zero interest in taking brown and judging by the trades we should be able to get a 1st and 2 2nds for vanek and smith or a 1st,2nd,3rd

 

we take brown we'd  better get a lot more than a first 

I agree with that. Just spit-balling to see what folks think. 

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