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And he'd make that top line quicker as well.

 

But OMFG will he go stand in front of the GOALIE!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

 

'Cuz if not, better resign Bert. 'Cuz we won a bunch of games that time Homer stood in front of the net back in 2008.

Are you insinuating that our offensive attack is unimaginative and at times formulaic?  How dare you!

To get over my anger I'm going to go watch youtube videos of the Wings force feeding point shots on the Power Play with no success and then silently weep as I pine for 2008.

I'd like to see at least a pre-season game with Z-Dats-Mantha.

I'd honestly like to see Z-Dats-Jurco.  He's a big strong kid, and he's really good on the boards.  Plus, Nyquist-Sheahan-Tatar are murdering it. 

Should have been a 5 minute major and he should have been tossed for the blatant headshot.

The cross check shouldn't have been made in the first place.  And whether the "intent" was for the shoulder, he ultimately cross checked him in the head and the end result is a head shot.  Suspendable offence? Yes.  Repeat offender? Very much so.  3 games will maybe teach that idiot more of a lesson than a measley 1 game, though I think 5 would send a better message, cause Neal is repeatedly a dirty player.

Orpik loves hitting from behind and taking guys knees out.  He's no stranger to Q like cross checking sessions as well and unlike the Wings, his interference isn't "subtle".

Based on what you've just said I can conclude that you think interference makes a guy "dirty" and also that you think Kyle Quincey is a "dirty" player (since you just used "Q like" to explain why Orpik is dirty). 

Quincey is not a dirty player.  Also, interference doesn't make one a dirty player.  If you feel differently fine, but I question your logic. 

Also, for a guy who "loves hitting from behind and taking guys knees out" he has remarkably few penalties every year, only topping 70 PIMs once in the last seven seasons.  He also has only had two major penalties in the last six seasons despite playing huge minutes in almost every game and not ever missing serious time with injury. 

He's just not dirty dude, no matter how hard you hate the Pens.

Our defense is bad, and are forwards are primarily Grand Rapids Griffins.  That said, he is a veteran goalie with a long term contract.  He HAS to "stand on his head" in many of the remaining games for the Wings to have a chance.  I don't like hating on him either, but you have to call it like you see it.  

To an extent I agree with you, in the sense that I REALLY WANT Howard to stand on his head.  It would be super nice if he did.  But there's no substitute for quality play in front of the goalie.  Look at Ryan Miller.  The guy's a stud, a veteran, a guy that can steal games for you, etc. etc. etc.  Except he wasn't stealing games for Buffalo, he was getting murdered.  You could say the same things about him as we currently do about Howard.  Then, all of a sudden, he goes and plays on a real team with real hockey players and he's a superstar again.  And it's not just that he's benefiting from St. Louis' system, because he's playing better than Halak or Elliot did with the same team. 

When we talk about goalies "stealing games" it's easy to think that top flight goalies can play behind HORRIBLE defenses and win games all by their lonesome.  That rarely happens.  Usually when a goalie steals a game it's because either two very good teams, or two very bad teams are playing and the goalie ends up being the difference.  When it's a bad vs. a good team the goalie rarely overcomes that.

 

If Weiss is bought out or traded, I'll take Legwand but no need for both of them. Call it morbid curiosity, but I'm still curious about what a healthy Weiss looks like. Hopefully we get to see him this year so we get a better feel for him as a player.

Weiss is a really good player.  He's going to be good here, he's just had a run of crummy luck with the injuries.  Also, I'm not sure that he can be bought out (since he was signed after the lockout).  Well, he could be regularly bought out, but they couldn't use a compliance buy out.  And he has an NTC, so he's definitely not getting traded.  So it's probably him over Legwand (who hasn't been bad at all). 

 

Yep, which is why Jarnkrok wouldn't have seen the light of day in Detroit for like 3 years.

 

Basically, the Wings are set at center for a while but they'll need to keep drafting centers to restock the Jarnkrok-less cupboard.

 

Next season we could potentially have all these guys signed:

 

Datsyuk

Zetterberg

Weiss

Legwand

Sheahan

Andersson

Helm

Glendenning

 

I can see Legwand moving to the wing, and of course Zetterberg will there as well. Glendenning can star the season on GRs I believe.

 

One of Sheahan or Andersson can be moved to the Wing, but ultimately, I wouldn't be too upset if Andersson was traded.

 

Leaving

 

Datsyuk

Weiss

Sheahan

Helm

 

as your top four with Zetterberg and Legwand ready to swing in to the middle when the ubiquitous injuries start to pile up.

I like Dats, Weiss, Sheahan, and Helm as our four centers.  But I don't like Legwand on the wing.  He doesn't shoot much, and hasn't played there too often.  I'd rather we go get an actual winger, I hate this team's insistence on lining up centers at the wing.  It's no wonder we have such a hard time scoring goals.  But that's just me.  And hopefully having Tatar, Nyquist, and Jurco on the wings moving forward will help.

Well I'd definitely prefer Legwand have more situational awareness, but in hindsight, good on him.  Very veteran move.  Reminds me of Chelios.  Let those punks know they don't get to do work on you easily. 

Edit:  The outcomes are good all the way around.  I'm glad nobody got suspensions.  In my opinion these are both VERY borderline plays, illegal?  Yes.  Severe?  No.  Penalties were enough in both instances. 

Mods remove my posts, and I still bask in my nuclear sunshine.  We're the Detroit Red Wings, maybe you've heard, winning big games is what we do!  Welcome opposing fans, you're truly welcome, but please believe we're not rolling over on some trash talk.

I just moved to Washington D.C. for work, and you wouldn't believe how Caps fan get punked by Pens, Bruins, and Flyers fans around here.  I was in a Caps bar about two weeks ago and they lost to the Flyers.  Bunch of Flyers fan walked up in the place and took it over. 

Not happening with Wings fans.  Not happening in Detroit.  Reppin' it till the death of it!

 

 

flightless birds?

im smiling at 94 points...

If you think that's funny you're probably downright beside yourself when you think about how your team just dropped three straight to mediocre teams.  Bodes really well for your chances of getting past Boston, Tampa, Montreal, or Philly...

Oh s***, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say Philly this close to a Pens' fan's bedtime.  I don't want to give you nightmares.  Have a good sleep, you'll probably drift away like a baby knowing your team absolutely murders bottom feeders like Detroit...oh wait.  Nighty night.

I'm sorry, what's going on?  Did I miss a memo that said you had to debate "penalty calls" with a fan of the opposing team who just lost to our AHL team?  Scoreboard my man!

What...what...what?!?!?!  Glendening?

Don't worry everyone, Franzen's about to go off in the third.  Calling it.  Season changing period right here, and Franzen's going to be the catalyst. 

Jesusf****** Christ.  Who's fault is it when you blow like 2,000 two goal leads with various different lineups?  Does even a little of that come back on the coach?

Does he have to have more than one goal to officially be "loose", or how does that work?  I need an official ruling.

 

Hahahaha it is funny, because it was our hate for each others team what we had in common once we met.

Nothing brings folks together more than unyielding hatred.  You're a lucky man.