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Cue Kenny in 5,4,3,2,1..... We like our team. We felt the prices were too high so we didn't feel comfortable giving up more than we were prepared to. We have over 13 million in Cap space and we plan on keeping it. We plan to be aggressive at the trade deadline. We have an opportunity for growth from within our own young players. The Nyquist's, the Smith's, the Brunner's can make an impact for us this season. We believe we are still a Stanley Cup contender. There is not a whole lot separating first from last. There is so much parity. We are re-tooling on the fly as we do not deem it necessary to do a full re-build. We will explore the market and see what is out there and try to improve our hockey blub. It has to be the right fit. It has to make sense. We will not make a trade just for the sake of making a trade. It is not easy to improve your hockey club because no one wants to do us any favours.

I think Semin is out....Trade for Ryan, sign Doan, sign Kubina, wait on Q's hearing...shake rattle and roll... I hate to lose Flip, but for Ryan, yes! edit: Yes I am talking like its a done deal, because I have confidence that Holland will let loose his canon "balls" and do what needs to be done to usher this team into the next 20 years of dominance! Bobby Ryan this year, Getzlaf or Perry (or both) and Weber next year...

all the naysayers on here are ending our season already? Holland isn't done... Doan is still there, there was just a report that Holland is in the hunt of Bobby Ryan, so it's not like we have sunk to the deepest depths of the Central division. I would say if Holland got Ryan, Doan and Kubina, other than Suter being better than most of our D, and honestly, I would put Kronwall right up there with him...Kronner had 37 points being on the 2nd pairing, Suter had 46 points on the 1st pairing...when it comes to hitting, Kronwall eats him up all day. I would give Suter the nod defensively, but other than that, pretty equal...except when it comes to pay... Parise actually had better centers in NJ. Koivu is really good, but there is only room for one leftwing on his line and Heatley will start bitching if he gets bumped off of it...he is the f***in allstar you know... It's not like I am saying they aren't any better, of course these two makes them tons better, but I think Parise scores less in Minny than he did in NJ...I could be wrong, but we will see. I am more afraid of the Blues (:puke: oh....excuse me that just snuck up on me) than I am of the Wild... They are not in the central so we won't see them as much as I'd like, but no, I am not afraid. As long as Holland isn't done. Ryan, Doan, Kubina and I think Holland is ready to roll... FORWARDS Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) Shane Doan ($5.750m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Damien Brunner ($1.350m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Mikael Samuelsson ($3.000m) Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) / DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Pavel Kubina ($3.000m) Kyle Quincey ($3.550m) / Ian White ($2.875m) Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,383,712; BONUSES: $462,500 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $4,816,288 It's not as pretty as having Parise and Suter on there, but it's still a very VERY good roster...

There are two major flaws (well, there are far more than two, but I'll just list two anyway) with your idea: 1) It would make far more sense to simply trade for his rights, given that Kane has indicated an unwillingness to re-sign with the Jets. 2) Giving Kane 13 years at $6m per would be beyond ludicrous. Doing so AND giving up three draft picks in the process would carry the idea into the realm of complete brainlessness.

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After all the lauding and back slapping the fans, organization, and sports media have given the Wild since the Parise Suter acquisions I started to sit down and really think about how dangerous these moves really made them. Certainly all the reactionaries around the hockey world have already penciled them as one of the top teams in the west. But anymore, being a top team doesn't cut it, you have to be elite, and in my opinion...elite they aren't. Obviously building a roster is an evolutionary thing, and I'm certainly not claiming to know much about their prospects and young talent, but for what it's worth I can think of at least 5 teams in the West scarier than the Wild. San Jose and Chicago are better up front than Minny with as good or better defenses, but with worse goaltending. Vancouver and Los Angeles are better in every regard. St. Louis has a better defense and goaltending, but doesn't have the offensive punch. As for Nashville and Detroit...well, let's just wait and see on those. So here's my question, is anybody else not afraid of the big bad wolf?

Uh....ya, ok. Pit would never let him go! Unless he wants out... Datsyuk, Semin, Malkin top line? I could deal with that!

Ok, you said it "HE WOULD BE A SOLID SECOND CENTER..." that is what Anaheim wants in return...nobody is s***ting on Filppula. But you are not going to get Bobby Ryan for our 13-16th forwards in trade...geez! Anaheim wold not take Franzine from us...they want Filppula. Filppula almost guarantees Selanne returns for another year, he has said for awhile now he wants to play with Flip. Filppula is both our trump card and the key to this trade...I too would rather trade Franzine before Flip....or niether at all and just give them five 13th forwards for Ryan, but it doesn't work that way... Filppulla/Mursak/Tatar/Draft Pick should get it done. Great 2nd line center and two NHL ready prospects...we will not miss those two guys...first of all we'd have Bobby frickin Ryan and our stable is still full of younsters: Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen, Jurco, Frk, Sheahan, Sproul, Tvrdon, Athanasiou, Bodin, McKee...the future will be fine!

http://detroit.sbnation.com/detroit-red-wings/2012/7/6/3141173/bobby-ryan-trade-rumors-detroit-red-wings All just speculation...but if Holland pulled off acquiring Ryan...the Future looks brighter than even with Parise...first Ryan, then Getzlar or Perry....or both!

After this weekend Doan will have been given insight to the Yotes future - if he hits the market they are moving. And the Wings have expressed interest - and yes, Doans agent did contact Holland. It theres a guy I wouldnt be averse to overpaying 500k to a mill per year for its Doan because this motherf*cker competes every shift like its his last. His presence would be great in our room and if we inked him for 3 years I'd put an A on him (Z captain, Kronner, Dats, Doan assistants). This team goes from a fairly ho-hum group to a sure fire contender this year of we can sign Doan and Semin. Id like to sign a Kubina or Rosival to shore up or top 6 asap because Kindl IMO is never going to be better than a 7th dman. He is a weak skater and doesnt have to skill/brains/toughness to make up for it. ps. IF the Yotes are headed to Quebec - or folding, Yandle becomes easier to acquire by us. With us handing them their asses in 2 of their last 3 playoffs I think management would feel heat from their 14 person fanbase if they gave up their star dman for less than an unreal package.

Team that can't score + guy who can score 40 goals = team that can score more.

How much will you donate to a charity of the community's choice if you're wrong?

They have one good defenseman (and one or two borderline ones). Their goalie is middle of the road. These days, that could be good or bad. And their offense looks good on paper but wound up scoring the least in the league last year. They added Parise but I don't see one player transforming their lackluster offense. Specifically, they will have one very good (on paper) top line, a decent second line, and nothing under that. They might make playoffs, but won't make any noise if they get in. Maybe 5 years from now they might have a one and done hot season, but no. They're just a middle of the road team.

Kenny why must you sit and wait? It tortures me.

Pittsburgh radio reporting Pens and Semin working out a contract. *sigh*.......Can Holland just stay home and give the job to someone else? This is truly pathetic.

so much for spending to the cap max jimmy d

I don't understand how Holland and company can "go out of their comfort zone" for Jordinf****** Tootoo, but don't seem to be willing to do it for a guy with Semin's talent. I realize that Tootoo is cheaper and is signed short term, and I'm really hoping it's the term and price that are holding up a deal with Semin and not some sort of b.s. concern about his character or motivation or whatever. Get this done and sign Doan if possible and there's a real possibility that our forward corps looks like this next season: Note: numbers indicate a conservative estimate for goals from each player. Semin (25) - Datsyuk (20) - Franzen (25) Filppula (15) - Zetterberg (25) - Doan (20) Cleary (15) - Helm (5) - Samuelsson (15) Bertuzzi (10) - Abby (5) - Miller (10)/Tootoo (5)/Eaves (10) Brunner (?) However if Emmerton put up 6 or 7 then I don't think it's unrealistic to expect at least that much from Brunner. Additionally, it's obvious that there are a ton of extra forwards so I anticipate a trade on defense where possible.

I came back to the forums today and thought the title of this thread had been changed to the red wings have ACQUIRED Rick Nash and my heart about dropped out of my ass. Then I was so discombobulated that I posted in the wrong thread, and now I just want to take a nap. I hate the offseason...

Clearly states in the profile that it's a parody account.

If I am trading with Winnipeg for a Defenseman, I am trading for Zach Bogosian...

RIP hero. We could use a little probert on this current team.

i personally put alot of stock in the "hometown" and "family lives here" reasons. just think, most of us being metro-detroiters would play for the wings no matter what if we made the NHL. Thats what they did. Just childhood dreams coming to fruition.

no, that not. mind you, I live in Netherlands, I can think of different reason to say stuff like that not being crazy at all... I mean... I love Flip and his work ethics but him and Ryan is no match... really... peace, bro!