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The philosophy won't change until the playoff streak is broken. Tatar should have been a starter long ago. esteef

Yes. That is what young players are supposed to do: earn a roster spot/playing time. Which as of today nyquist and Tatar haven't. maybe it is do to blind loyalty or maybe it is because they are not as good as the vets some fans want them to replace. Yes waiting for your chance is hard to do. Then do something about it. As Ric Flair used to say "To be the man, you have to beat the man". There is a lot of trueth in that statement. What made the RW the most successful isn't overriping players in the minors. It was a great draft-1983, several big time trades, multiple UFA signings, and scouting Europe before everyone else did. All the while being backed by the best owner in sports. The overriping of young talent is a by product of having a deep and talented team. Not the cause of having a deep and talented team.

Call me old fashioned, but it was twitter that saved him? Umm, did he forget that the device he had in his hand that he tweeted from also works as a telephone? Where you could call people. To let you out of the stuck crapper.

Buffalo and Bolts... oy. I miss Val.

It's weird seeing Flip in a Bolts jersey

Honestly, it serves them right for supporting this travesty for so long. The NHL took over the team, they took over the debts.

I like Brunner and think he could've been a nice addition here, but here's a pretty good example of why he would not be guaranteed a spot in the top 6. It is something he could've worked his way up to, but he's not defensively responsible enough at the moment to earn that ice time. At least not under Babcock. (it's a blog that occasionally picks a play and gives a good analysis of what happened and where the breakdowns occurred). http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/10/08/systems-analyst-puck-obsessed-devils-puck-stare-because-the-puck-is-a-puck-and-players-like-pucks/#more-86470 My favorite part is this summation of what it means to be defensively responsible:

I'd find a way, like mcgyver

Sure a player like Crosby is the exception but at some point these guys deserve a real chance. I agree with you the DetroitRedWings for now aren't desperate enough to inject youth, which could backfire. Teams can get away with making their young guns working extra hard if they are extremely talented but if not changes are you become the next Calgary Flames. maybe the front office has become to complacent with some veterans who knows but the fact is, Tatar and Nyquist deserve a real chance otherwise they might move on and I wouldn't blame them one bit for doing so.

I think you'll see it before long. Babs had no problem playing the kids on that line last season. I think right now they're trying to showcase certain players for potential trades, and also trying to figure out which guys they want to keep. I realistically imagine that the kids will form the third line, and some combination of Cleary, Emmerton, Miller, and Bertuzzi will make up the fourth until Helm is healthy. It's coming, but we've all got to be patient. A few more stinkers like last game will undoubtedly speed up the process as well.

" The third line of Joakim Anderson centering Daniel Cleary and Todd Bertuzzi has yet to score a point this season and is a combined - 8" only if are third line was Nyquist Andersson Tatar One can dream...

Jesus, you're ok with it too. Listen I'm all for young guys outplaying older ones, happens all the time. He suggested that they should "take runs" at veteran players and injure them during practice in order to make an opportunity for themselves. That isn't outplaying anyone. That's borderline psychotic. It's not at all different than what Tonya Harding did to Nancy Kerrigan. It's f*cking nuts! These guys are your teammates, your buddies, not your f*cking Game of Thrones rival.

"Amway presents this dog"

I agree, right now we have Danny D and Tatar in then line up and Nyquist will be up as soon as a spot opens. At the end of this year there are a bunch of contracts ending. (Sammy, Bert, Alferdsson, Cleary, Eaves). That opens up spots to be earned, adds the much needed cap space. These guys will get there spots. Why mess with the formula that made Detroit the most successful franchise in all of sports.

Clearly not, when you consider last season. If anything, the young guys were vital to us making the playoffs.

Is there no in between? Does giving a couple young guns more ice time necessarily mean the end of our playoff streak?

Tatar is being wasted even more if his one shot to impress was playing on a line with Emmerton and Miller. At least move him up with Andersson on the third line because Cleary and Bertuzzi aren't doing anything offensively there. A highly skilled forward shouldn't be dumped on the fourth line -- how is that giving him any chance to succeed?

make that a 10 for tatar. “Obviously, it’s kind of hard for the mind to stay in it (when you’re not playing much),’’ Tatar said. “Practice hard and focus and hopefully I’ll get in the lineup soon and stick there for a while.’’ Tatar said he doesn't expect to contribute much offensively playing limited minutes on the fourth line. He's just looking to create energy and not getting scored against. "I just have to wait and hopefully I’ll get in full-time,'' Tatar said. "It’s not easy, but I kind of expected this would happen. I was mentally prepared for it so I just need to stay positive.'' Tatar was the playoff MVP during the Grand Rapids Griffins' run to the Calder Cup championship last season. "What’s killing me is seeing other guys you’ve played against (in the AHL) playing all the time,'' Tatar said. "That’s kind of hard to watch them. They’re playing and scoring goals, like that (Cory) Conacher (he has one goal in two games with Ottawa). "But I’m in Detroit and they’re one of the best teams in the world. I just have to stay with it and hopefully it’ll turn around. I’m going to work hard.''

even more relevant if he you know added context. Cleary 2 goals were literally bounced off of his body by Datsyuk, and 1 was an empty netter, then what 6 secondary assists..... Unless of course points tell the whole story I guess St. James is saying Cleary>Datsyuk, because you know points mean everything. How about the 40x Cleary just losses the puck on the boards, or falls and gives the puck up? please someone sign into twitter and call this person a ****

So Tots gets nine minutes in one game on the fourth line and he's back on the bench because he didn't show anything in a game the entire team slept through. That'll teach him.

Fighting has been practically extinct from the Wings' game for years. I wonder how many people on these forums find watching them similar to figure skating.

As some of you know, I named my 2nd daughter Lilja.

Do you really not see the inconsistency in your logic? You flip flop back and forth between saying that reducing fights would make hockey more dangerous and that it dilute hockey to the point that it is dancing on ice. Your position is so untenable you need to do these mental backflips in order to justify it in your mind. When someone says that removing or reducing fighting would make the game safer you respond that it waters the game down. When it's argued that the integrity of the game will be preserved even without fighting you just come back and say it would be dangerous. The problem is, your scenarios are incompatible. What the "anti-fighting crowd" (soccer moms as you also call them) wants is to reduce unnecessary injuries while preserving the other, necessary physical aspects that are actually part of the game.

Like I have said before I wish him well, he doesn't owe the DetroitRedWings anything nor do they. That being said I was one of the few people who wanted him back, his scoring-touch would have helped this team out.