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4 minutes 4-on-4 3 minutes 3-on-3 2 minutes 2-on-2 1 minute 1-on-1 30 seconds goalie-on-goalie Still tied: goalie fight

i always liked eaves more than miller.

Totally disappointed by this... Tatar needs to be in the lineup every night (same goes for Nyquist). Still just can't fathom why we would possibly re-sign Cleary (especially with all our roster/cap issues). Ridiculous...

If it is true it makes you wonder what the hell is going on with management now. This situation is stupid enough but to have a guy find out form the media that he's going on waivers? It's like the wheels are coming off.

If true, Holland lost a lot more points in my book than he already has over the last few years. It's one thing to struggle in free agency and replacing players, it's another to just be this lacking in class. And this is awful. I love Eaves. Injuries haven't helped him the last couple seasons, but the guy has a lot of fight in him and a fair amount of skill. It'll be a shame to see him go. But it's okay, we still have Samuellson, who we can't reasonably trade or waive. Good job, Holland. Keep up the good work, best GM in the league.

Its really disappointing because Eaves is a much more effective bottom 6 player than Cleary and Sammy. He is getting waived for Holland's idiocy.

If true, then I'm ashamed to be. a wings fan. These are people they're dealing with. Once Kenny made the decision, he should have called eaves before filing the paperwork or whatever formality puts it into motion.

Hey at least these guys can benefit from a winning atmosphere...in Grand Rapids. Sigh.

He got waived after practice. Maybe he didn't have his phone with him to get the message until after he showered. Still... you'd think if Holland couldn't be there personally, he'd have made sure that someone caught him before the press did.

Seriously this. Such a crappy thing to do to a guy who doesn't even deserve to be waived in the first place. Maybe he's just embarassed because he realizes this is all his own stupid fault. This is becoming beyond frustrating.

You make a good point, but I think this analogy is probably more apt: You can't understand why your friend dates the ugly fat chick. You get to know her and you find out that her personality is also polar to your friend', and is even occasionally abusive. She is extremely high maintenance and she is constantly guilting him into staying with her, despite the stress she brings to his life. You confront your friend and he makes some excuses, but you read between the lines and conclude that she is really awesome at sex; the best he has ever had. While she can never give your friend true happiness, he is content with putting up with the abuse so long as his member is getting serviced at professional levels. MEANWHILE: A young attractive, nice, but naive woman comes along. Your friend and her hit if off. But she was a virgin when they met and he becomes frustrated with teachering her. Despite being a better personality match, he continues to stay with the first girl despite the long term benefits of giving this new girl attention. ---------------- I hope this story comes off as funny not mean, 55fan. I really think you're point is valid. I think Babcock should be more open about his reasonings. There is no way he doesn't hear the outcry from fans; Cleary bashing has been going on for so long. If he can present a argument that does not involve his veteran status or statistics, I would listen.

Well, that is just s***ty. I was annoyed with Ken Holland before, and have been for some time, but this is the first time that I've started to just not like him. It's not just that it's s***ty to not tell the player, but the whole reason this is happening is because he's made so many blatantly awful signings. Then when a hard working guy with a great attitude is affected by it, you create a situation that allows him to find out he's getting waived by the press. That's just another s***ty thing to do after a slew of bad decisions.

Just heard and not happy they are letting him go; I am trying to refrain from screaming and spitting on my phone screen due to Cleary and Sammy being on this team. The bar has officially been lowered...

This is sad. He deserves to play, somewhere in the NHL, the kid is a warrior. Reminds me a young cleary.. you know when he could still skate and contribute.

Looks like Pierre asks for an interview and the response is "Now???" and shakes his head.

I would venture to bet one of those three games you're including is the overtime loss against Tampa. Quincey turns the puck over behind the net, but Kindl was the one who inexplicably followed Quincey behind the net, leaving his man and the front of the net wide open for Purcell to bury the game winner. It took both of them to screw that one up completely. And you could just as easily argue that Kindl doesn't get PK time because the puck would end up in his own net so much. They've both been pretty awful. Together they're a nightmare. And the gap between them isn't nearly as big as you make it sound.

I'm starting to turn on Babcock. Holland obviously made bad moves but I'm beginning to see a pattern. Our decline seems to have an inverse relationship with Babcock's growing influence on shaping the franchise. Both are at fault, but this is Babcock's baby. hmHis first few years were led by Lidstrom and Yzerman. Since then, we keep trying to implement some system that none of our players can play, and he continuously rewards the wrong guys.

Hey, look at what Sean McIndoe is talking about.

Great.It's player #5 screwed due to the Cleary signing.Emmerton,Tootoo,Eaves waived,Tatar benched more than playing and Nyquist in the minors. Drew Miller...you're next son

Only time Holland would pick them up is now, right in their prime beer belly years. They get matching 5 year $4M/yr no trade/move clauses too

Are we secretly tanking this season?I mean the amount of the questionable moves by Ken and Mike lately is really wtf like...

I know, Patty has always seemed to have a great attitude and done everything asked of him and then to not even let him know in person before hand. Unbelievable.

All this for Dan Cleary and his 1 goal. Just like the Sammy signing we all saw this coming. Literally every single one of us. It's insane.

In his case it's because he keeps the puck moving fast with his great passing or he's protecting it like a mama bear, which all mostly nullifies his lack of speed. The guy has the incredible vision, instincts, and skills to line w 13 & 40 as opposed to Abby who just quite didn't have enough . Plus he adds a major bit of gruff to that line: guys are still intimidated by the old bear. No one has supported Babcock and Holland more than me, but its starting to piss me off.

Shoot outs make no sense. Baseball doesn't have a home run derby after one extra inning, you don't see a dunk contest in basketball deciding who wins. It isn't hockey, it's a skill competition.