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All that's saying I'd that alfies bonuses were deferred to next seasons cap, which we already knew was going to happen. We're not being punished like you said. We still have money to spend this off season and it doesn't put us into "cap trouble"

Proven or not, the return would have to be a bit more than just Shattenkirk if you want me to give up Mantha and Nyquist. Our need isn't that glaring that I think we should sacrifice two potential 30 goal scorers. Yes you have a point on the unproven part, but these 2 have got tons of potential IMO, especially Mantha, who looked like he responded quite aptly to his critics this season about his inconsistency. Nyquist isn't done yet either, the guy is 24, he's played 97 games and has 32 career goals. I accept we need an upgrade on D, but I don't think this is the solution

No. Way.

http://instagram.com/p/pOhHeAxI1Y/# Jello, baby.

RYAN: "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." I can do those things, because I'm not a hero, not like Duchy. I lost the Minnesota series. That's what I can be. GENERAL MANAGER JOE SAKIC: No, you can't! You're not! RYAN: I'm whatever Denver needs me to be. Call it in. GENERAL MANAGER JOE SAKIC: They'll hunt you. RYAN: You'll hunt me. You'll condemn me, set the dogs on me. Because that's what needs to happen. Because sometimes the truth isn't good enough. Sometimes people deserve more. Sometimes people deserve to have their faith rewarded. SAKIC'S SON: Ryan? Ryan! Why is he running, Dad? GENERAL MANAGER JOE SAKIC: Because we have to chase him. SAKIC'S SON: He didn't do anything wrong. GENERAL MANAGER JOE SAKIC: Because he's the hero Denver deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a two-way dynamo. A Lady Byng candidate. A Hard Day's Knight. SAKIC'S SON: That sounds like a lot of bulls***. GENERAL MANAGER JOE SAKIC: It is.

Um, sick flow? DUH

I'm not sure if I should post this here, or in the rumours section so Mods feel free to toss it where ever you like. I was looking into highly sought after UFA forward Jiri Sekac to learn more about him and when I googled him I found this : http://redwings.nhl.com/club/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=10614 which is a profile for him on the Red Wings offical site. Does this mean that they are going to sign him? What do you guys think?

He'd be in the press box within a month.

Holland's M.O. is also to let players over-ripen and earn their spot on the team at training camp. Who said he's jumping directly into the NHL? All these guys are going to have to make the team through camp, you know that!! So, don't get your knickers in a bunch ...and what harm is there in restocking our forward prospects? I mean you were all crying about Jarnkrok being traded, here's KH restocking the cupboards. Sekac is listed at 6'2" 174lbs. For reference: Calle Jarnkrok - 22 y/o Height: 6' 0" (1.83 m) Weight: 188 lbs (85 kg) So this guy, Sekac, needs to put on a few pounds. Big whoop. What Euro coming over the league doesn't need to? He's also two inches taller than Jarnkrok. So... ultimately bigger? Y'all are still mad only because you can't get the coolest name in hockey on a Wings jersey, right?

We should be kicking the tires all up and down that Jets team. Kane, Wheeler, Byfuglien, Little, Ladd, Enstrom, Bogosian, Trouba - dear Goc, how do they have all that talent and not even make the playoffs???

Evander Kane may be on the market Like said a couple weeks ago, kid is a gem. His production thus far puts him where Patrick Kane was at his age, and Patrick Kane has always been surrounded by quality players, whereas Evander Kane has played with plugs. I don't care about his attitude or whatever. Patrick Kane's a ****** nozzle but he's white and he plays for an elite team and he's, like, totally reformed. (SHOWTIME!) As for the Oilers...pass on all their forwards, unless they're thinking about moving Hall or RNH. I love Klefbom and Nurse.

To be clear...1) I meant Nyquist or Mantha. Not both. And 2) Shattenkirk is my guy *if it has to be a trade, as opposed to a signing*. If we're serious about getting a young, proven high-end defenseman who shoots right and can play a full season (averaging 20+ minutes a night) and play in all situations and score 10+ goals and put up 40+ points and run a power play and drive an efficient and effective transition game and is on a very agreeable contract (three years left on his deal, cap hit is $4.25M) and is only now knocking on the front door of his prime years and is, in many ways, perfectly suited for the kind of game we want to play and the basic systems we use and the personnel we have...Kevin Shattenkirk is my guy. I love Nyquist, but Nyquist for Shattenkirk, straight up? That would be incredibly tempting. It's not a knock on Nyquist. I just believe our '08 team - The Model - was as dominant as it was primarily because our top three was Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall. Our top defenders were, together, the engine that drove our lethal attack. We're struggling to score these days because we've done nothing to compensate for the offensive prowess Lidstrom and Rafalski took with them when they retired. Shattenkirk would help that cause in a profound way, and we might actually have an outside shot at him because the Blues - who are no longer in our division and conference - need scoring depth and Euroskill and our guys are all very familiar with the Western powers, especially the Blackhawks, whose fans absolutely loved (hated) Nyquist in last season's seven-game series because he gave them fits. Kronwall Ericsson DeKeyser Shattenkirk Smith Marchenko But this is all unrealistic. So, whatevz. On a more realistic note - Cody Franson. Thoughts? Huge frame, shoots right, 26 years old, can move the puck, can run a power play, has a great shot, and he plays under Randy Carlyle (so he's probably better than he seems). Not the most mobile guy, and he's a work in progress in his own end - but, again, The Carlyle Factor looms large. Maybe Andersson, Kindl/Almqvist, and Legwand's rights for Franson and a pick? Kronwall Ericsson DeKeyser Niskanen Smith Franson Just spitballing.

If Winnipeg is willing to trade anyone, I'd rather have Wheeler. He's a MUCH better player than Kane, though I've got nothing against Kane either. Also, I'd be reluctant to put too many eggs in Pulkkinen's basket. He's got a monster shot but he seems to be a one trick pony. I know you've got to give talent to get talent so I'm not going to shut down people's suggestions, but if it were humanly possible I'd MUCH rather trade Pulks than Tatar.

I disagree with that. A balance of player types is needed, but it doesn't matter where they are from. And the enforcers era is over. It wastes a roster spot and I'm not really sure how effective deterrence is anyway. Those fighters everyone loves keep fighting, meaning their message isn't getting across.

Yup. (I was making a Weezer reference, ftr.) I've actually been needing a celloist for a few of my own recordings. I'll keep you in mind and nothing will ever come of it because I have a bad back and I'm lazy. In other news... NHL's West is best again in Stanley Cup Finals [Larry Lage, Associated Press] Mike Babcock, folks. He'll be here all week, hopefully longer.

I don't get why people were calling Brunner a bust. Signs on a contract that's cheap as s*** and produces very, very respectable numbers without any kind of NHL/AHL development beforehand. He doesn't sign with us after because he wanted more money and it didn't work out for him, but the bottom line is we got him for a year on an ELC and he helped our team immensely. Not a waste at all.

I think we'd be better served making a legit offer to Niskanen instead of trading a massive amount away for a top 2 D man (say Shattenkirk). It'd make more sense and we wouldn't have to sacrifice important pieces to get what we need and solidify the back end. You would seriously offer Mantha?

If the Avs draft Griffin McCarty, I'm checking myself in to asylum.

No, but look at the Kings. 4 Europeans on that roster, 4. Bruins had 7. The hawks had 10, and got handled pretty well by the kings, they just found a way to steal a couple before being eliminated. The kings whiffed on some chances to score goals in those last two games they lost, and Crawford, the canadian, stood on his head those games. I'm sorry but yeah, the Europeans have the skill and craftiness, but to go deep in the playoffs, you need size strength stamina and endurance to go with the skill. We all know the North Americans have the size and strength over the Europeans. Its just a Snapple Fact. Toss in the skill of a Kopitar and Gaborik and you have the formula to run deep and possibly win it all. The kings very well could be a three peat champ this year had they beaten the hawks last year.

Here's my source, I know it's probably not as "accurate" as you'd like but it is the actual NHL website so it should do. If you still think Smith scored more even strength points than any defenseman on the team, I don't know what to tell you. http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20142DETDADALL&sort=evenStrengthPoints&viewName=points Finally, I notice that you keep ignoring the part of my point where I criticize Corsi stats because they're heavily skewed toward offense but I'll try again. If Corsi numbers truly tell which player is "better", then how do you explain Mike Green having a higher Corsi than Ryan Suter and David Booth having a higher Corsi than John Tavares?

According to new predators head coach peter laviolette,Rinne looked great at the world championship.was named tournament mvp for finland

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Really? Ok, Leino, Brunner, Brunnstrom...does that answer your question?

Spezza is a guy who wants out of Ottawa because he can't handle the finger being pointed at him when the team is losing. Is that the kind of guy some people really want to see here? He is getting paid to be a go to guy, but can't handle the pressure of being one. Let him go to Florida where nobody will care.