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Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

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I like Helm but ever since his leg got screwed he doesn't seem.to be the tenacious f**k I loved. In any case what's all that changes are coming bullcrap. We replaced Dat's with a worse veteran (no offense Neilson but your no magic man) the only change has been for worse

Gotta wait all summer to hope for a good trade

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Well, they traded datsyuk's mediocre point totals for nielson - who should be similar, and do ok on faceoffs. I had hoped they would pick up SOMEONE dynamic on the front end. I like Helm, and think he's a good player, but we know what we're gonna get with him, which isn't another 20 goals in the mix, OR someone who can carry the effing puck through the neutral zone and help out nyquist and tatar, who I thought suffered last year from just being too small and blocked out by the other team's D.

I guess they're banking on Atha and Mantha coming up Huge, Larkin not having any sophomore slump, Zetterberg somehow staying even despite age and mileage (no neg on Z, just that's life). ATM, and with the sense that this is kinda fluid (change your players to suit your own self) I see our lineup being something like this (no sense btw of who is on what wing, or anything like that, just people in rough configuration))::

1. Larkin Zetterberg Abdelkader (A good proven line)

2 Athanaseiu (sp) Nielsen and Tatar/Nyquist (Questions on Chemistry)

3. Mantha Sheehan Nyquist/Tatar (Questions on Chemistry)

4. Helm Glendening Miller (Great Checking / Penalty Killing)

6 D: Green, Dekeyser, Smith, Kronwall, Erikson, Marchenko

Sproul, Oulette Jenson to fight for last spot.

2 G Howard, Mrazek

Cap Friendly says we are at 65.5 mil with 7.49 mil space but that doesn't include removing the salaries of Franzen 3.95 and Vitale 1.05 so it seems roughly to me we are at 12.49 mil space, which I know Holland doesn't want to get right up to the edge with.

A chunk of that has to fix up Dekeyser and Mrazek but we also have salaries listed in the cap like a guy named Lorito (no clue who he is), so it seems to me we coulda prolly made another 5.5 mil splash or gotten us someone who'll deliver a bit more punch on the offensive side.

Oh well, Maybe a trade's yet in the offing, or we'll pull a rabbit out of our red wing rear ends. News at 11.


As for resigning Miller, look at our PK with him in the lineup vs not. He's worth his million far more, I think, than helm is worth his 4.

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Does any team value PKing as much as the Red Wings?? I value this thing called goal scoring, and we didn't do s*** today that will help that. Just for the love of god Blashill play the kids more next season, that would be fine.

The guy scores 10-15 goals a season for the most part. If he is played on the 3rd line where he should be, he is a huge asset. When you have a team with elite talent, it is usually guys like Helm that become the difference makers.

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I'd Shaw any day over Helm.

Hate Shaw.

Helm is the least of our problems. He works his butt off and is fast.

I'm ok with this.

The real deadweight on this team = Erickson, Kronwall, Howard

Move some of these pieces if possible

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Hate Shaw.

Helm is the least of our problems. He works his butt off and is fast.

I'm ok with this.

The real deadweight on this team = Erickson, Kronwall, Howard

Move some of these pieces if possible

I wouldn't say Kronwall is dead weight, he just needs to be counted on less at this point. He still has a lot to offer in a lesser role.

As for Howard and Ericsson, I agree. Sadly we're stuck with Howard unless we get lucky.

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Because at the time we had no Helm or Neilson, I would imagine.

Holland likes to panic and jump the gun on signing people. I like Miller, but it can't be that hard to find a UFA 4th line penalty killer if we somehow missed out on him.

I wouldn't say Kronwall is dead weight, he just needs to be counted on less at this point. He still has a lot to offer in a lesser role.

As for Howard and Ericsson, I agree. Sadly we're stuck with Howard unless we get lucky.

Goalies are hard to move. We're stuck with Howard, maybe for the duration of the contract. I would hope we could find a buyer over the next few years, but yeah, we're probably stuck with him. Ericsson, even with all his contract stipulations, would be easier to move. I'm with you on Kronwall, though. He's still a serviceable top four guy, he just never really stepped into the Number 1 spot like we all hoped he would. Unfortunately, we have about a thousand middle pairing defensemen, so...

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The lack of any vision and strategy represented by this deal is impressive, but unlike half of you sycophantic homers around here I NEVER bought into the Holland "genius" tag. It was always others (Nill, Bowman, scouting) that made this team. As far as I'm concerned the only think Holland did for us was go out and buy Hasek, Hill and Robitaille - nothing genius about having the riches to buy three hall of famers, but in today's world that would probably take up half the cap space.

Despite Holland's emperor with no clothes finally being revealed to the masses, the one thing I can't stand any more is for this team to play underperforming mid level veterans (like Helm and so many others) over promising and very hungry kids. I don;t care what they are paid, if I see another season of dead weight playing while someone like AA is out there making things happen in 7 minutes a game, I'm going to lose it.

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I wouldn't say Kronwall is dead weight, he just needs to be counted on less at this point. He still has a lot to offer in a lesser role.

As for Howard and Ericsson, I agree. Sadly we're stuck with Howard unless we get lucky.

Kronner is being paid 5 million a year for a job that a number of our GR guys could do (Sproul, Jensen, Oulette). Kronner has a bumb knee and really had a bad season last year. He is not worth the 5 mill and is seriously on the decline.

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The more I think about this deal, the more I hate it.

I think perhaps since Helm took the "discount" (I do believe he would have gotten more yesterday from one of the teams interested in his services) that Kenny will have Helmer on the trade block-he doesnt have a no trade clause does he? He could fit nicely in a package

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I think perhaps since Helm took the "discount" (I do believe he would have gotten more yesterday from one of the teams interested in his services) that Kenny will have Helmer on the trade block-he doesnt have a no trade clause does he? He could fit nicely in a package

Holland isn't one to sign-and-trade. (No GM is these days, honestly.) Bottom line, this is a Ken Holland Veteran Loyalty Program Extension. Helm will be with us for at least five more years, making considerably more money than he's worth. (And I say that as a big Darren Helm fan.)

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If he just had hands around the net. Can't score. Maybe send him on a Soviet style training camp for scoring on the breakaway for a couple months.

Overpayment in my opinion. Still, his speed will cause problems. If he just had those hands with that...

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What a joke of signing Kenny needs to go freaking idiot why are we signing D's retreads that's why we will never win anything what about Jimmy's contract no one is gonna take that abomination

You must be a man or postmenopausal because you are...

...missing some periods

Yeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!

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