F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted November 11, 2018 Nylander is following in the footsteps of his father...He's a good player - not a great player (yet), and wants his $$$. He's probably wanting more $$$ than Larkin, but IMHO Larkin is the better of the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083 Report post Posted November 12, 2018 Trading within the division would require a larger package going back. They would want a 2019 1st for sure. Nylander isn't a good enough of player to give up a chance at Hughes IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted November 12, 2018 Not a rumor, but a prediction...I expect Todd McLellan of the Oilers to get the boot pretty soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 12, 2018 Both Quick and Campbell out with a torn meniscus... The Kings currently sit dead last, with the worst goal differential in the NHL. Are they that bad, or have they just had s***ty luck / bad goaltending? Would they have any interest in Howard or taking Bernier back? Should we trade one if they come calling? What sort of return could we get?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted November 12, 2018 18 hours ago, F.Michael said: Nylander is following in the footsteps of his father...He's a good player - not a great player (yet), and wants his $$$. He's probably wanting more $$$ than Larkin, but IMHO Larkin is the better of the two. He wants $8M (rumored) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtlantaHotWings 987 Report post Posted November 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, krsmith17 said: Both Quick and Campbell out with a torn meniscus... The Kings currently sit dead last, with the worst goal differential in the NHL. Are they that bad, or have they just had s***ty luck / bad goaltending? Would they have any interest in Howard or taking Bernier back? Should we trade one if they come calling? What sort of return could we get?... Perhaps this is LA's way of a stealth tank and improving odds of getting Mr Hughes? Has anyone noticed if Tanya Harding and friends have been seen around Staples recently? Could be a factor with all these knee injuries occurring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted November 12, 2018 F*** the Kings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonas Mahonas 1,872 Report post Posted November 12, 2018 47 minutes ago, Dabura said: F*** the Kings. Agreed. They have way too much talent to do this. 1 Dabura reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Agreed. They have way too much talent to do this. Which is why they desperately need to acquire a goaltender. I think they're good enough to still have a chance at a playoff spot if they fill the void in net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 10 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Both Quick and Campbell out with a torn meniscus... The Kings currently sit dead last, with the worst goal differential in the NHL. Are they that bad, or have they just had s***ty luck / bad goaltending? Would they have any interest in Howard or taking Bernier back? Should we trade one if they come calling? What sort of return could we get?... Lmao trade them Bernier back. Rybar can play the remaining 25 games we needed him to play. 2 LeftWinger and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 12 hours ago, Jonas Mahonas said: Agreed. They have way too much talent to do this. They are a big, slow team in a league where speed is becoming increasingly important. They need to tear it all down and start over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 18 hours ago, krsmith17 said: Both Quick and Campbell out with a torn meniscus... The Kings currently sit dead last, with the worst goal differential in the NHL. Are they that bad, or have they just had s***ty luck / bad goaltending? Would they have any interest in Howard or taking Bernier back? Should we trade one if they come calling? What sort of return could we get?... I'd send either one if they would waive their NTC (if they have one), and whomever could fetch us the most in return (in terms of draft picks). 18 hours ago, toby91_ca said: He wants $8M (rumored) Wow - greedy lil'bastard ain't he? If the Leafs have trouble signing anyone else - well it's gonna be another 50 years before they win the Cup 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Wow - greedy lil'bastard ain't he? If the Leafs have trouble signing anyone else - well it's gonna be another 50 years before they win the Cup Nylander clearly missed Shanahan's public plea for his stars to take less than market value in order to retain their core. Just wait until Mathews and Marner (both twice the players lil willy is) rake the entire GTA's ballz over the coals when their time comes. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 This Nylander fiasco really makes the Marleau signing look stupid 2 F.Michael and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: This Nylander fiasco really makes the Marleau signing look stupid If Nylander really wants 8M you just can't cave to that demand. Marleau or no Marleau. Cap space or not. But if you're talking signings, the real mistake was not locking the three of them up long term last year. Pre-Tavares. 2 amato and Wheelchairsuperhero reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 22 hours ago, toby91_ca said: He wants $8M (rumored) 2 F.Michael and krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F.Michael 4,590 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 3 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: Nylander clearly missed Shanahan's public plea for his stars to take less than market value in order to retain their core. Just wait until Mathews and Marner (both twice the players lil willy is) rake the entire GTA's ballz over the coals when their time comes. Apparently when asked about Shanny's 'message' - Matthews responded sumthin along the lines of 'I'll let my agent handle this' (meaning he could give 2 f**ks since he wants what's coming to him). 11 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said: This Nylander fiasco really makes the Marleau signing look stupid I've been saying this since the day the Leafs signed him...Made zero sense what so ever...There's still 1 season remaining...Could've used that $6.25 cap hit in a much more meaningful fashion. 8 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: If Nylander really wants 8M you just can't cave to that demand. Marleau or no Marleau. Cap space or not. But if you're talking signings, the real mistake was not locking the three of them up long term last year. Pre-Tavares. I'll give Dubas a bit of a break since signing Tavares was a bit of a long shot, but it'll be interesting to see if Dubas has Yzerman strength balls in letting Willie boy sit for the season, and not cave in to his demands. Just now, Dabura said: Makes Larkin's contract look like a bargain. 1 krsmith17 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 25 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said: If Nylander really wants 8M you just can't cave to that demand. Marleau or no Marleau. Cap space or not. But if you're talking signings, the real mistake was not locking the three of them up long term last year. Pre-Tavares. Yeah I just mean it would be nice to have that cap space now. 8M is yes very high. 15 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Apparently when asked about Shanny's 'message' - Matthews responded sumthin along the lines of 'I'll let my agent handle this' (meaning he could give 2 f**ks since he wants what's coming to him). I've been saying this since the day the Leafs signed him...Made zero sense what so ever...There's still 1 season remaining...Could've used that $6.25 cap hit in a much more meaningful fashion. I'll give Dubas a bit of a break since signing Tavares was a bit of a long shot, but it'll be interesting to see if Dubas has Yzerman strength balls in letting Willie boy sit for the season, and not cave in to his demands. Makes Larkin's contract look like a bargain. This really is his first big test. Yzerman godfathered that s*** like a ******* gangster. My guess is Dubas will trade him for questionable return. But we will see I guess. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, F.Michael said: Apparently when asked about Shanny's 'message' - Matthews responded sumthin along the lines of 'I'll let my agent handle this' (meaning he could give 2 f**ks since he wants what's coming to him). I've been saying this since the day the Leafs signed him...Made zero sense what so ever...There's still 1 season remaining...Could've used that $6.25 cap hit in a much more meaningful fashion. I'll give Dubas a bit of a break since signing Tavares was a bit of a long shot, but it'll be interesting to see if Dubas has Yzerman strength balls in letting Willie boy sit for the season, and not cave in to his demands. Makes Larkin's contract look like a bargain. I'd let him sit the whole season for four reasons: 1. f*** him 2. Their contending window IMO won't close for at least five years 3. Set an example with this and use it for leverage in the M&M negotiations next year edit: 4. show other GMs that they can't pick your carcass by low balling you with trade offers Edited November 13, 2018 by The 91 of Ryans 3 ChristopherReevesLegs, krsmith17 and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted November 14, 2018 7 hours ago, The 91 of Ryans said: I'd let him sit the whole season for four reasons: 1. f*** him 2. Their contending window IMO won't close for at least five years 3. Set an example with this and use it for leverage in the M&M negotiations next year edit: 4. show other GMs that they can't pick your carcass by low balling you with trade offers Wait, so you're in favor of teams using every ounce of leverage they have to maintain financial dominance over players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted November 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Wait, so you're in favor of teams using every ounce of leverage they have to maintain financial dominance over players? Yeah, f*** the players and their commie union Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 91 of Ryans 3,014 Report post Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, kipwinger said: Wait, so you're in favor of teams using every ounce of leverage they have to maintain financial dominance over players? Mr Fehr? Is that you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,476 Report post Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, kipwinger said: Wait, so you're in favor of teams using every ounce of leverage they have to maintain financial dominance over players? I am. I cant say I would feel bad if nylander "only" made 6 million at 22 years old. I'd be happy making 100k and I kill my body every day and rarely get a day off. He's getting off an entry level deal. I've said it before and I'll say it again, getting away from bridge deals is going to kill the competitive teams. Handing out big contracts to a guy 2 years into the league was a bad precedent and now these kids want even more than they are worth because they might be worth it later. He should be talking 5 mil to help the team. Then in 3 years negotiate a contract based on what he was worth over the last 3 years. I don't get a raise for something I might do in the future, I get one based off the grouping of work I've done since my last raise, and if I want more I have to work above my pay level now to earn a higher pay level later. Millenials. Edited November 14, 2018 by Euro_Twins 3 ChristopherReevesLegs, Wheelchairsuperhero and F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,522 Report post Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Euro_Twins said: I am. I cant say I would feel bad if nylander "only" made 6 million at 22 years old. I'd be happy making 100k and I kill my body every day and rarely get a day off. He's getting off an entry level deal. I've said it before and I'll say it again, getting away from bridge deals is going to kill the competitive teams. Handing out big contracts to a guy 2 years into the league was a bad precedent and now these kids want even more than they are worth because they might be worth it later. He should be talking 5 mil to help the team. Then in 3 years negotiate a contract based on what he was worth over the last 3 years. I don't get a raise for something I might do in the future, I get one based off the grouping of work I've done since my last raise, and if I want more I have to work above my pay level now to earn a higher pay level later. Millenials. Do you have this same "Athletetes are a bunch of rich babies who need to be crushed" attitude when it comes to lockouts as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022 Report post Posted November 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, kipwinger said: Do you have this same "Athletetes are a bunch of rich babies who need to be crushed" attitude when it comes to lockouts as well? Do you have this same "bizarre sad accusatory" attitude everywhere, or just on LGW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites