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#2306100 My Trade Proposal

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 June 2012 - 08:16 PM

Some combination of Franzen/Filppula/Nyquist/Smith/1st rounder for Perry.

:blink: Wow! Overpayment for sure.... +1 for outbidding 28 other GM's!


I would definitely like Perry here as well. I would trade Franzen, Stuart (rights) and DET 2013 1st rounder for Perry and Schultz (rights.) (of course as long as Quincey signs elsewhere and we get those 2013 picks for him.)


#2306099 Alexander Radulov.

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 June 2012 - 08:11 PM

:lol: Lets see him smack Torts with the stick like he did in Russia, eh? Radulov will be sans head before the night was over!


#2306094 Looking at Holland comments.

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 June 2012 - 07:42 PM

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($8.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.000m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Travis Moen ($2.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.500m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($3.250m)
Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Josh Harding ($1.500m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,208,712; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,091,288

+1 for all the changes, I do like them!

BUT...

Whew! Helm at $2M? Abby at $1.5M? I am guessing that you are setting them high so that when they do re-sign for less it will be like a bonus?

Abby made less than $800,000 last season do you really think he has earned almost DOUBLE his money? And Helm? He made less than $915,000 has he really earned MORE THAN double his money? It took Holmstrom almost 10 years to top $2M in salary, neither or these guys have brought what Holmstrom has brought to this team. I am not knocking them, and yes Helm is very valuable to this team, but I am not seeing over 2x his salary...

More like: Helm $1.5M Abby $1.1M


Quincey at anything over $3M is too expensive for the Wings. We already have a #5/#6 making over $3M, we do not need another. Holland needs to qualify him at $3.125M and then allow him to seek a raise elsewhere and collect the picks for him. The 1st and 3rd round picks are more valuable to Holland than Quincey is... Let Quincey go, maybe he signs on with a bottom 3rd team and then Holland can trade away our own 1st and 3rd next year for something that is going to push this team back over the top and then have a very high 1st and 3rd to replace the ones he traded...business is business and this makes the most sense, especially when he overpaid a 1st round pick for him to begin with, he not only gets another 1st back next year, but another 3rd to boot! Quincey for picks all day...


edit:

Even going with your $8M for Parise and Suter, I think it will look more like this. Plus this roster also works if the Cap doesn't quite stay at $70.3M...


FORWARDS

Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Zach Parise ($8.000m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Travis Moen ($1.900m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.100m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m)

DEFENSEMEN

Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($8.000m)
Ian White ($2.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($1.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

GOALTENDERS

Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Josh Harding ($1.000m)

SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,442,045; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $4,857,955*


*enough for a nice deadline acquisition as well...(if the cap stays at $70.3M)

also, I'd personally like to add Shane Doan, but with the $8M each for the Big Two, it would be kind of pushing the Cap with Doan considering he may cost $5M...


#2306054 My Trade Proposal

Posted by LeftWinger on 08 June 2012 - 03:47 PM

Ryan is already signed through 2015.

:blink:

Uh...Ya. We are "trading" for him in this thread...


#2305903 Jagr staying in Philadelphia?

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 June 2012 - 07:46 PM

Good! Don't want him....


#2305866 Red Wings make contract offer to D Justin Schultz

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 June 2012 - 03:45 PM

Again, I'll gladly concede this entire discussion if you can provide me with even one piece of tangible evidence that PROVES either of these assertions. Saying it doesn't make it so. There is no way to compare Kindl to Schultz because Schultz has not played enough hockey at a competitive enough level, and there's nothing at all that says the kid will inevitably become "great" so long as he's on a pairing with Smith for a few years.

Everything you've said so far is pure speculation. Unless you've got some proof I'm not aware of.

Pretty please, explain to me how you can FACTUALLY make the assertions "Schultz is better than Kindl" and "Schultz will be great". Pretty please.

Also, and answer this honestly: Have you ever even seen this kid play one full hockey game?

Yes, purely speculation, but I have seen Kindl play plenty of times and he has failed every test so far... I do watch a fairly good amount of NCAA games, so yes I have seen him play a few, and he looks really really good to me, I suppose he could flop in the NHL, but so has Kindl. Schultz has the potential and can still prove himself, Kindl has done zilch to prove himself. He has been given plenty of chances to take a permanent spot on this team and he hasn't, my bad, he has, #7...

Will they be great? Maybe, but if I am going with a sub-million dollar #6 guy on his way out of the NHL and a #7 who just cannot stay in the lineup, I'd rather go with these three kids and let them grow into something that could be great that only comes by playing with each other everyday, every year, year after year. They just need the chance, and not just go stale in the AHL...


#2305858 Would you do this deal?

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 June 2012 - 03:31 PM

No this hasn't been floated somewhere. Just one of my crazy ideas, based on rumored needs/wants for both clubs. Det sends Quincey and the rights to Hudler to Ott for Nick Foligno.

Now if any rumors are correct, and lord only knows if they are, Det is looking to get bigger, faster, younger, and tougher. Ott is rumored to be in love with Hudler and needs 1 more D. Quincey and Foligno are RFA's. Hudler is a UFA of course. It helps both teams. maybe a draft pick back to Det to balance it out a bit more.

For those that don't know Nick Foligno he is a 24 year old LW from NY. he is listed at 6-0/210 on 1 site and 6-1/215 on others. he is good for 15+ goals per year and about 90 PIM's on average. basicly he is a LW McCarty, minus the off the ice stuff. Would think he ends up in the 2.8 to 3.2 million range to sign long term. Thoughts?

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#2305667 In Anticipation of 2012 Draft

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 June 2012 - 03:39 PM

The good old days of cloak and dagger to get guys out of the USSR. Was it Klima or federov that we helped defect in the dead of night.....been so long now.....

Klima was taken in the middle of the night, running through the woods to an awaiting truck to take him to the airport in West Germany...

Fedorov was participating in the 1990 Goodwill games in Seattle, WA. and when he and his team came downstairs to attend a team meeting or practice he told them that he forgot something upstairs and re-entered the elevator, never going back...

Konstantinov they had faked a cancer diagnosis (also gave someone behind the scenes a Chevy Caprice and an undisclosed amount of money) that could only be operated on in the USA and when the Red Army let their Captain go so he could get better...well, you know the rest...too bad fate stepped in with what happened later on...

Kozlov was in a horrific auto accident that killed his teammate, Taras Kirilov and Kozlov indeed had severe injuries that required facial reconstruction. Nick Polano (asst. GM) flew to Russia to get him released from the Army and get him to the States where the rehab was better. He did defect once he arrived in America.


#2305657 Alexander Radulov.

Posted by LeftWinger on 06 June 2012 - 03:05 PM

Well if Nashville did indeed offer him $9M per year, guess they weren't too set on keeping Suter around....btw, if that indeed was an offer, what the hell is it going to take to sign Parise?


#2305487 Would you make this trade?

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 08:19 PM

Franzen led the team in GWG during the regular season and the playoffs.

Don't forget that.

Never will! Man we'd never have won those games without those GWG's! He had more than Pav and Hank combined! Throw this guy $7M!


#2305481 Throw the bank at RFA Shea Weber?

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 08:05 PM

Doesn't matter what happened to Z, if Weber wants to be in Detroit and Holland wants him, he will be in Detroit...frankgrimes, do you realize the nasty things Chris Chelios has done to many of Detroit Red Wings in his career BEFORE he became a Detroit Red Wing? And yes, all while Steve Yzerman was the Captain...


#2305466 Wings interested in Garrison

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 06:57 PM

Well from reading the Holland comments all I got to say is :w00t2:

Of course I do not like the idea of re-signing Quincey, but whatever, so long it is not over $3.5M...

:w00t2: again at Hudler parting ways! He may be worth $5M in Ottawa, but he isn't here. So long traitor! I have hated you since you held us hostage then bolted to Russia!

I am on the fence about Brunnstrom re-signing, I will be a bit upset to lose Conner and Janik, but they never really got a shot here and I am sure they'd rather be in the NHL somewhere rather than GR.

I love the "need for a top 6, 4th line big man, top pair defenseman, tough defenseman, NHL level backup goalie" Exactly what we need! I hope he gets them! Also, VERY intrigue over him saying he WILL make a deal at the draft for negotiating rights to UFA's if the price is right! And they will be making the UFA decisions within 10-15 mins on the 1st!

Tighten that belt one more hole guys and hold on! Other than winning the Cup, this is the most exciting time of the year for me!!! (along with the trade deadline)


#2305461 Bryan Rufenach

Posted by LeftWinger on 05 June 2012 - 06:34 PM

Died while traveling in Europe? Hostel anyone? J/K! Tragic for anyone to die so young! RIP!


#2305296 Would you make this trade?

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 June 2012 - 09:51 PM

I sure love this lineup. Losing Helm sucks, but gaining a right-handed shot like Green is huge.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Shane Doan ($5.000m)
Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.866m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($7.000m) / Mike Green ($5.000m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Doug Janik ($0.513m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,082,917; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,217,083

...does anyone think that Blue is the user with most visit to capgeek.com? He has got to be their most loyal customer there. It's another nice fantasy roster, but again, Helm won't be traded...stranger things yes, but Helm is the aorta to the Heart of the Red Wings...Behind Pav and Hank, he is about the next most important forward...


#2305293 2012 SCF : Los Angeles Kings vs. New Jersey Devils

Posted by LeftWinger on 04 June 2012 - 09:44 PM

As much as I want to Wings to win the Cup every year possible, it will be nice to see a franchise win it for the first time ever! Oh, and I like how Gretzky leeches on to the Kings once again because they are going to win...could you imagine the Gretzky love fest that ABC/CBC would have if it were the Kings and Rangers? Sheesh! Sorry, just never liked Gretzky...f*** me!