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#2264259 Columbus GM Reveals Nash Demanded Trade

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 06:35 PM

Still wondering what the Nashville GM had to do with any of this.... :ninja:

#2264255 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

So Ken Holland stands pat.....again. Says asking prices are too high and nobody wants to deal with Detroit. Is that because we have nobody that anybody else wants or? Who did we think that Ken Holland was going to get with nothing to offer? Ken Holland couldn't dump Hudler for picks when he tried last season. Z,Pavel,and Flip are not going to be moved so what does that leave us to sell? The 3rd line has been the only line thats playing so they are safe. Cleary, Eaves, and the entire 4th line in a package would not have got us a top six sniper. This team has to be re-tooled after July 1st. Ken Holland will need to make some tough choices then. Players need to go (Cleary, Hudler, Eaves,Homer) and some brought in or brought up.

...and Ken Holland agrees with you, until July 1st comes around and then the end of summer, then he states that "We kicked the tires, made some inquiries but in the end there wasn't any asset out there that would fill our needs and we really like the re-siging of Bertuzzi, Hudler and Quincey. Patrick (Eaves) is at 100% so we also like him as our off-season acquisition..."

#2264232 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:55 PM


"Laugh it up Fuzzball" Nashville is only 6 point behind the Wings and coming strong. Wings cannot win on the road and their last 4-5 home games have been yawners that they barely won and lost the last two of...They may not be 6th, but they will be 3rd in the central.

#2264220 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:44 PM

And some of those wins were the "pull it out of their ass" variety in OT or shootout after they looked like s*** for at least 2 periods. But yeah, we won 23 in a row... :rolleyes:


Ya, I am not discounting the fact that they won 23 in a row or that they are flirting with 1st overall, but, if it weren't for that win streak (which had games within it they had no business winning) this team would be out of the playoffs. The road woes, the power(less)play and the inconsistent forwards are gonna be the death of this team and just because of a magical season 4 years ago, they will get a pass. Holland missed an opportunity today to send his team a message. Play or you are not wanted here. He will spout off about the draft and the UFA day, when he does nothing again, slappies will talk about the past 20 years and how he is the best in the business because a scout (not Holland himself) found Datsyuk playing in Siberia or somewhere. If they don't win the Cup, I hope Lids hangs em up and Stuart leaves, because he aint getting Suter then we will see what is broken or not.

#2264206 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

Did you people all go to the "if it ain't broke, break it" school of philosophy? To make a move just so you can say you made a move makes no sense. Do you really care that they had room under the cap and didn't use it? Makes no sense to me. Just knowing they have the room available IF a quality player can be had means more to me. If that means RFA or FA this summer, then so be it.

What's not broke? The power play? The road record? Inconsitent and lack of interest players? It is broke. If it wasn't for the win streak at home and if they played more like the average team at home, this team would be out of the playoffs right now. The ONLY constants on this team is Datsyuk, Helm, Abby, Lids and Howard. The rest? Broke...

#2264201 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:26 PM

Yeah those results have really sucked the last 20 years.

20 years mean nothing for this year. Besides you cannot count the years where he had unlimited funds to spend on trade day and UFA day. In this day and age if you want to edge, you must overpay a little to get it. By the end of the year Wings will be in third in the Central and about 6th in the playoffs. You guys who have faith in Franzen are in for a rude playoff. He is done, over, wasted. He got his life-long contract and is mailing it in for the duration. He had one great year and now he gets a pass for being s***ty. Yes, I am mad. Holland could have overspent today to shake his team up, to show he means business, either you come and give 150% or you are gone, adios! Oh wait, he did overpay, for Quincey and when he re-signs him, Hudler and Lidstrom over the summer, he will over pay even more! All while losing Stuart.

#2264190 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:12 PM

Red Wings have as good of shot at the cup as anyone, I'm happy they didn't overpay for anyone. We got a top 4 defenseman that will be here for years, and the Red Wings have confidence that Brendan Smith will be able to step up and play starting soon.

The cap room wasn't just banked up and saved for the deadline, but rather the offseason when we'll be able to get an even better player for free without having to give up the farm.

Wings are an older team, they really need to keep young kids and picks right now, unless they go after a younger player that would be here for a while, and those players aren't usually traded at the deadline.

...but alas, that is what he said it was banked up for, that is why he didn't go for a larger UFA last July...how many times you going to listen to his garbage and rhetoric?

He will not get Parise or Suter over the summer. He will not trade for Nash or anyone. He will draft small skilled forwards. He will tell us that "We kicked the tires, made some inquiries, but in the end we felt there wasn't anyone out there that would help our team..." God DAMN I am tired of hearing it! Overpay, just once Holland, show your team that you WANT TOf****** WIN! Your team is so inconsistent that they are going to lose 1st in the central, they may even get passed by Nashville too! You cannot win on the road, your powerplay is horrendous, now your home play has gotten abysmal, even the last three wins there were nothing to write home about...I am even betting that they lose in Columbus tomorrow...99% sure.

Get ready: Bertuzzi, Hudler, Helm, Quincey & Abdelkader are going to be his signing's. Same team, same result. f*** I am pissed!

#2264181 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 05:04 PM

Holland failed today. He said over the summer that he wasn't going after big UFA's because he wanted to keep the cap for the trade deadline. Everyone on here said, no biggie that he didn't sign nobody now he can address our issues at the trade deadline. No here is the deadline, he failed to address our issues. Even the guys he targeted did not address our issues. Quincey does not address our issues. Now Holland is saying as well as you guys, he will adress our issues over the summer, which is what we heard last year at this time when no trades were made and then what happened over the summer? Exactly....

This team will not win the Cup. It is too inconsistent. Datsyuk can't do everything for you. Off season will come (way too soon) and Holland will be more focused on overpaying Lidstrom & Hudler (guarnatee he gives Lidstrom over $6M again and Hudler at least $4M) he won't even sniff Parise or Suter. So here is our team next season...


Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Jiri Hudler ($4.275m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.837m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m)

Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Ian White ($2.875m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Kyle Quincey ($4.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)

Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Joey MacDonald ($0.550m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,892,044; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $4,407,956

he'll keep the $4.4M for help at the deadline again in 2013 :hysterical:

Today was Strike 1 for Holland, he will say he wants to improve on draft day that will be Strike 2, then he will yap about July 1st. Strike 3. EVERY YEAR!

#2264033 Post-TDT: Red Wings stand pat, no additions

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 03:20 PM

I am not happy...I am mad. I don't care. There are players that were available out there that would have made this team better and Holland refuses to do a thing.

#2264015 2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 03:17 PM

Cue the Holland coup...

Starting with me...Kyle Quincey? That is your answer to a horrendous road record, inconsistent forwards, one of the worst power plays in the NHL, and again, s***ty inconstant "clutch" players... Read it here....HOLLAND WILL NOT SIGN ANYONE SIGNIFICANT ON JULY 1ST. I am so God damned sick of Holland doing nothing...he isn't the only one, but Vancouver got better, San Jose got better, Nashville got bigger. Detroit stays put...I am just so very upset....Everyf****** year Holland says he is gonna do something, he does nothing, he wastes a 1st on Quincey, I was ok with that when I actually believed Holland would do more to make this team better. Well, I was utterly disappointed again....oh BTW, Bertuzzi is gonna be there big signing...

I cannot wait to hear what he has to say....oh wait: "We kicked the tires, made some offers, we just didn't feel there was a deal out there that we felt comfortable making..." That sounds about right....f*** Holland...

Hit List:

Johan Franzen
Jiri Hudler
Ken Holland

#2263873 2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 02:37 PM

Come on Holland! Improve this team!

#2263590 2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 12:52 PM

Wow, so far Holland is a seller! :lol:

#2263257 2012 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - February 27th, 3:00 PM ET

Posted by LeftWinger on 27 February 2012 - 07:52 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen! Welcome to Trade Deadline Day!!!

Will Ken Holland "Go Big or Go Moen?©" or will he do nothing? No matter what, it's always starts out as a very anxious and exciting day!

BTW, this is off topic, but yesterday my two youngest son's played at the Joe and yours truley (who is one of their coaches) got to coach from the Red Wings bench! Wow! What a perspective you have from there! I was working the door for the kids at the tunnel to the locker room! I tried to upload some pics, but they always end up small on here, not quite sure how to show them full size! Anyway, it was great! The ice is actually a lot smaller than what it looks like from up in the stands and on TV...

#2263031 Johan Franzen Depreciation

Posted by LeftWinger on 26 February 2012 - 01:56 PM

He leads the league in GWG.

Close thread.

:ok: :zzz: :looney:

and Dan Cleary led the Wings last year with 8, that sure is the mark of NHL Elite-ness! Besides Vrbata is now leading 10 as well, so his inconstant play is allowing players to catch him in all statistics...soon Hudler will pass him on the goal-scoring. For the "most clutch player in the NHL" who has a "Serious Contract" 47 points in 62 games is horrendous!

We can't move him for another 2 years, folks. He has a NTC for the first five years of his contract, if I remember right.

according to Capgeek.com, he has no such thing...

#2262664 2/25 GDT : Avalanche 4 at Red Wings 3

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 February 2012 - 08:35 PM

What a waste of an hour and a half...time to let the wife take the TV over. Holland better be making calls right now...This team is in dire trouble...