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Weber isn't worth it this offseason

What on Earth could you possibly have against Budd Lynch? The guy has been a Wing for 63 years, is in the Hall of Fame, and loves hockey more than probably everyone on this board, combined. The guy is an absolute legend, and familiar voice to those who have been Wings fans for years. Besides, he's just the PA announcer, it's not like Erich Freiny is going to make any difference. But don't worry, at 94, he'll probably be gone before a new stadium is built anyway.

My favorite thing about the Joe is that it's not named after some s***ty corporation. I know the new one will be, but I really loved the fact that the Joe was named after something relevant to Detroit's sporting history.

I am currently seeking a new putter and came across this beautiful specimen, it can be yours for just over a hundred bones. I might get one just to have in my bag, though I am not sure Id use it much...but enough of that Im cuing up Happy Gilmore.

No on EMF because it's not 1990 and the song sucked back then too & no on Gary Glitter because it's not 1972 & personally, I think it would be a good thing to keep all association with kiddie porn out of the new arena. Parents, keep this guy away from the young 'uns: I say keep the personalized goal songs for players but just update them a bit. I've always been disappointed they never busted out Tool's song 'Hooker with a Penis' as Hudler's goal song.

Nothing against enforcer(s),but don't want to see us becoming Bruins/Kings like team. Yes they won it by chasing,dumping,trapping and fore-checking,but the key is still Conn Smythe winning goaltenders. Call me crazy,but I still want Red Wings like team that moves the puck soo damn quick that fore-checking f*ckers come 1 second too late,lol

Step 1) Sign/trade for Bobby Ryan and Colton Orr Step 2) Do a Vulcan Mind Meld Step 3) Put Colton Ryan in as a goal-scoring forward to do our fighting. Step 4) Get Bobby Orr out there to play defense. Ok, now that I've got the silliness out of my head, I would not mind having Colton Orr on the team. The enforcer debate has been done to death, and I've given my nickel's worth time and again, but one thing the team seemed to be lacking, especially during the playoffs, was joy. I know that sounds silly, but they all looked like they were going through the motions- like they were just doing what they were doing but had no purpose. One thing we always hear about with guys like Downey (for example- not saying "bring him back") is how they lift the spirits of the other guys. They kind of act as an internal cheerleader. They build them up when they need the confidence. Enforcers are commonly the "funny guy" in the locker room. No, not that way. Get your minds out of the gutter. I mean they're the guy that cracks the jokes and lightens the mood. They get the team up before the big games, and then go to their place in the press box. Or they play and do their duty. Sure, we need a defenseman. We need a top six guy. We know who most of us want for those spots. July 1st only comes once a year. I'm sure Kenny will be focused on those two, plus any backup plans should those guys get snapped up quickly. But we also need a guy who can bring the joy of playing hockey back to the locker room. And that, my friends, could very likely be an enforcer. Go for it, Kenny!

Several topics have been focusing on the offseason, and the pressure is clearly on Ken to shake things up. Personally, I feel that we need at least one sniper, and at least one grinder for the bottom 6 that will give the 4th line some identity and make this team harder to play against. Obviously, a guy that can contribute offensively once in a blue moon, and a guy capable of skating a regular shift. This list (To nobody's surprise) will focus on the grit aspect. Below is the mother of all lists of both UFAs and RFAs that I feel will make this team harder to play against. The player's age, stats, and cap hit are included. FORWARDS (UFA): *Shane Doan- 35 years old, 50 points and 48 penalty minutes in 79 games, $4.55 mil. He's be a good addition for the top 6. Ideally, I'd like someone younger but he is still an effective player and leader *Taylor Pyatt- 30 years old, 19 points and 23 penalty minutes in 73 games, $1 mil *Dan Winnik- 27 years old, 23 points and 52 penalty minutes in 84 games. $950,000 *Jake Dowell- 27 years old, 7 points and 53 penalty minutes in 52 games, $800,000 *Brad Winchester- 31 years old, 10 points and 88 penalty minutes in 67 games, $725,000 *Byron Bitz- 27 years old, 4 points and 14 penalty minutes in 10 games, $700,000 *Rod Pelley- 27 years old, 3 points and 16 penalty minutes in 52 games, $550,000 I'd consider the following to be a 13th forward to dress when we play a tougher team, like the Blues. *Krys Barch- 32 years old, 5 points and 114 penalty minutes in 51 games, $837,500 *Jay Rosehill- 26 years old, 0 points and 60 penalty minutes in 31 games, $600,000 *Guillaume Desbiens- 27 years old, 0 points and 25 penalty minutes in 10 games, $525,000. Probably will get a 2 way deal with someone. DEFENSEMEN (UFA) *Jim Vandermeer- 32 years old, 4 points and 33 penalty minutes in 25 games, $1 mil FORWARDS (RFA): *T.J. Oshie- 25 years old, 54 points and 50 penalty minutes in 80 games, $2.35 mil *Matt Martin- 22 years old, 14 points and 121 penalty minutes in 80 games, $852,500 *Jamie Benn- 22 years old, 63 points and 55 penalty minutes in 71 games, $821,667 *Mike Blunden- 25 years old, 4 points and 27 penalty minutes in 39 games, $615,000 *Kyle Chipchura- 26 years old, 16 points and 42 penalty minutes in 53 games, $550,000 DEFENSEMEN (RFA) *Theo Peckham- 24 years old, 3 points and 80 penalty minutes in 54 games, $1.075 mil *Mark Fistric- 25 years old, 2 points and 41 penalty minutes in 60 games, $1 mil

Absolutely. I had planned on 150 per ticket, but it looks like the 190 is where I'd like to be. I have no issue with that whatsoever. Hey, if the car payment is late, who cares? It's the Winter Classic with Detroit and Toronto.

i'll second that ...and up the ante with a schultz signing.

Going to the Tigers - Reds game tonight at GABP so hopefully I'll be back in time to catch the puck drop. I'll say the Kings will finish this off and become the new Stanley Cup Champions.

Bring the plywood back boards that make the Joe famous.

Go Kings.

Lets see him smack Torts with the stick like he did in Russia, eh? Radulov will be sans head before the night was over!

And Howard has not been able to outplay the other guy (not counting Bryzgalov) in order for us to advance far. Since we're not obtaining a Conn Smythe goalie this offseason, we may as well demand something realistic. Admit it. Chicks dig enforcers and hockey fights.

Kind of like the Red Wings in Game 7 in the 2009 Cup Final vs Pitt?

As a group they are probably better than any other team's prospects The Red Wings had more players they drafted on their team than any other this year, they also had more players they drafted playing on other teams than any other team which is very impressive and they did it all by drafting low and trading away a lot of their picks. Amazing. Anybody criticizing the Red Wings prospects or drafting (and there a lot of you) is ridickulous. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1190840-nhl-power-rankings-how-wise-is-your-team-when-it-comes-to-the-nhl-draft

Remind me how much Eric Boulton is helping the Devils in the finals or how much Kyle Clifford has made the Kings win the cup. Goons are for teams that can't fill the stands unless they can play. I'd take Clarkson for sure from the Devils, but its more because he is a net crasher... all of the things in the world we need, the last is toughness the way this list defines it. I just don't see the point. When you don't have much money, and the cash needs to go to better players. I will take an enforcer, if we have all the issues with the team solved. We don't.

"The Wings would have won if they played like the Kings"....In order for us to play more like the Kings, we need to add a little snarl to our lineup (Which LA's lineup has, in the forms of King, Nolan, Fraser, Mitchell, Clifford), hence the list of players that would help us play like the Kings. But you're right, I just want a bunch of goons in the lineup to pile up penalty minutes. The list would have featured more top 6 players and 1st pairing defensemen, had it actually been focusing on top 6 players and 1st pairing defensemen. Had it been about top 6 players and 1st pairing defensemen, it would have turned into another Parise/Suter thread, just like every other ******* thread so far this summer. Also, Pavelski and Brown are diving pieces of s***. I don't want either of those dickwads on the team, so that's another reason I didn't bother to mention them. You caught me though. I just want nothing but goons on the team, which is why the whole list is full of absolutely nobody but talentless goons that can barely stand on their skates like Pyatt, Oshie, Carter, Slater, Campbell, Burish, Downie, Martin, Tootoo, Winnik, Crabb, etc.

I wonder if his locker is still at the bottom of the sea?

that dude is a piece of s***

I know some people are delusional, but how can you NOT get excited about that list of names?

Smith is far more scrappy than Yandle. He throws plenty of hits, and has an edge to his game that is absent from Yandle's. The Kronwall comparison is pretty bang on. They're comparisons. I don't think that anyone is saying Nyquist is going to be the next Datsyuk. As mentioned, a lot of these comparisons were made by Red Wings management and staff, so I suppose they're ridiculous too. What do they know about hockey?

Ill take all of them except moen. i want guys putting up 20 fighting majors. this team is soft as baby s***.