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  1. 11 points
    I've noticed it's the people in the suburbs who are usually pessimistic about downtown. I've been living here the past two years and it has been a blast. No one here is "waiting for a revival." It's already pretty awesome. I have no doubt these plans will make it better. Here is the view from my apartment and you can see the lots along Woodward where the stadium will stand. You can see the FOX theater sign for a point of reference. I'll post more pictures once they start construction.
  2. 3 points
    No, we don't. The next one will be dealt with swiftly.
  3. 3 points
    You mean this one? http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/topic/75839-look-whos-top-in-gr-scoring/ " It looks like Yellow Mustard is going to miss some time after catching that elbow last night against the Sabres. Its really bad timing too, because our defense already thin with Big Poppa out with a concussion and Bandit serving his 5 game suspension. I would say this forces us to call up someone from GR, most likely Billy the Kid or The Player Formerly Known As Steve. We might be in trouble on the back end until we get some regulars back, since this leaves the Boogeyman as our #1 defenseman. And you know what that means!!!! Boogeyman - Hot Topic Heebie Jeebies - Dances with Wolves My Little Pony - Agent Orange ~&~ (The Player Formerly Known As Steve) "
  4. 2 points
    With the exception of Detroit, Tampa Bay and possibly Columbus, every other Eastern team who made the playoffs has taken a serious step back or are in cap hell. Washington looks good on paper but they have always looked pretty good on paper. (aside from their goaltending) Carolina did nothing to improve. Islander's defence is a joke and who knows with the Leafs. Personally, I like our chances....
  5. 2 points
    Going to work when you're grieving is no doubt difficult. But that's not something you get "rewarded" for, nor does it show loyalty. That's life.
  6. 2 points
    Jesusberg

    Alfie wants to play

    Man, that's just sooo not on Alfredsson, at all. The team being "good" or not doesn't come down to one veteran player. He lead the team in scoring - a team that was without it's two best offensive players for a little under half the season, and was probably the most consistent scoring forward on the team throughout the season. He gives the team another look at the PP, and unlike Hudler, Samuelsson, etc. he can actually hold the blueline. Holland has just left this stale taste in everyone's mouths when it comes to signing veterans. I can't stand signing vets for the sake of it - but this is one of the few vets in recent memory that Kenny should re-sign. For his production, it was without a good chunk of the core offensive players on this team. He was charged with carrying a load for this team that he never should have, and he still did a solid job doing it. Even if you don't want to consider the guy a top 6'er, he's a great insurance policy. The team stays healthy and you've got a player who can add 50 or so points, he goes down with injury and Jurco can come up. I am fully behind the idea that one of Ouellet/Sproul/Backman/Marchenko should be in Quincey's spot, and I'm also fully behind Jurco being in Cleary's, but I don't think you remove a productive, veteran player from your team for the sake of change.
  7. 2 points
    By Diesel do you mean Kevin Nash? Cause thats a horrible nickname that I really hope doesn't catch on.
  8. 2 points
    I don't think Danny has come close to "earning" the same money Quincey got. People can argue whether he's just as good or better all they want, but that's not how contracts get done in the NHL at this stage of his career. If Danny was a star player and clearly better, it would be a different story, but the truth is he is simply one of the guys who is developing and who has some promise and could very likely end up being the better player. Quincey put in many years to get to UFA status, which is what many players work towards and often only get the opportunity to experience once in their careers...that's when they cash in. If you are Danny, after putting in 70 odd games in NHL and looking to cash in the same way, then I'd be more than a bit annoyed.
  9. 2 points
    I am glad you like my idea for the ICE Arena. I like it too! If you guys want to go with the kicking tires theme, it would be hilarious if Goodyear or Uniroyal got the bid for the name. Uniroyal Centre, we've been kicking tires for 20 years! (and kicking ass)
  10. 2 points
    Noooo that's the parking garage name.
  11. 2 points
    Do we really need to keep rehashing the same joke over and over again?
  12. 2 points
    This make brain hurt.
  13. 2 points
    I thought we had settled on Hampus Melen Arena? No takesie backsies!
  14. 1 point
    Dabura

    Alfie wants to play

    I'd take him on a one-year deal. Why not. He's a proven producer. You win - and create roster depth - with proven producers. Manage his minutes, shelter him a bit, give him some nights off. Zetterberg Datsyuk Jurco Franzen Weiss Nyquist Tatar Sheahan Alfredsson Miller Helm Abdelkader
  15. 1 point
    Jesusberg

    Alfie wants to play

    While I think it would be stupid to bring back the same roster, we're already in that position, IMO. I just don't think that Alfredsson should be left out because Holland has made other boneheaded moves. I get what you're saying - plug the hole while we still can. Part of me feels like Jurco won't be used properly, anyway. At least not until Cleary is out of the way. I think Jurco, in a year or so, will be a huge upgrade over Abdelkader in that net-front role on the top line, because he's got the skill to boot. What I don't see is him being placed in that role right now. At this point, he's battling guys on that 3rd line for time, because I don't think Babcock, etc. even considers him as a top 6 guy right now (even though I think he'd be fine on the 2nd line with two vets). I think every one saw him fade down the stretch, but I think that can be attributed to having to play a much larger role than expected all season. Additionally, wasn't he basically abused during the Olympics? I seem to remember him being way overplayed during the tournament. Playing him in a top 6 role would work, but I do agree that 1st line time might be a bit too much. I'd love the skill set on a Z-Dats-Alfie line, but I don't think they'd have the legs to keep it up throughout the season. If we're really speaking on the potential of points, then I think just about every one on the team is going to be expected to potentially do better than they did last year. Whether it's Z, Dats, Weiss and Mule being healthier, or Nyquist and Tatar being regulars right off the bat, I think this team should see increased production across the board with the forwards. That being said, it's almost expected that this team is going to face injuries again. I'd prefer to have as much depth as possible at this point. It sucks, but it's a reality that these forwards have a number of health issues. I still want to see guys like Nyquist, Tatar and Sheahan insulated by the veterans. Right now, for my money, I trust Alfredsson to set a better example on and off the ice than Mule or Weiss. No disrespect to Weiss, but I think the jury is still out on what he's going to bring to this team, and Mule is Mule. I don't think, given the current state of this team, that it's going to kill them now or in the future to bring back a veteran who can contribute on a consistent basis.
  16. 1 point
    I can see DD getting a little more than that. Tatar is tougher to predict based on the fact that Sheahan signed so low..........
  17. 1 point
    Nyquistfan14

    Alfie wants to play

    I guess I agree to an extent on the fact that there is no crease crasher, but I also don't like bogging pav and z down with a guy like Abby cause he's a crease crasher. I only remember one game in which alfy played with pav and z and that was early in the season against Colorado. They simply dominated. I believe he's a good fit for many reasons 1) he's a righty 2) has the ability to finish of the eurotwins setups 3) thinks the game on the same level as those two. I don't think pace is a huge issue as it's not like dats and z are burners either. If he does have trouble playing those top minutes you can always move jurco, or Tatar up while moving alfy down to the 3rd line. That's my honest opinion As a reference look at the two kids and a goat line that used to be so damn effective it didn't have a real net front presence but they were still amazing.
  18. 1 point
    I'd be shocked if either player signs for more than 3M per.
  19. 1 point
    The big thing, at least from where I stand, is the conference. I asked this recently and I'll ask it again: How many teams in the East would be a really bad matchup for the Wings in a best-of-seven? If you point to our "five year drought," look at how it's actually gone for us. Two very good Sharks teams. A decent Preds team. A very good Ducks team, which we beat. The eventual Cup champs in the Blackhawks, who we came so soul-crushingly close to defeating. And, finally, the Boston frickin' Bruins, who we had to face without Ericsson, mostly without Zetterberg, with a hurting Datsyuk, with a banged up Alfredsson, with a bunch of rookies, and with the ghost of Jimmy Howard. (Penguins) Sharks Sharks Predators Blackhawks Bruins The East appears to be wide open. The Bruins, Penguins, Rangers, Canadiens, and Lightning are considered the teams to beat, and, of those teams, there's only one I'd pray the Wings avoid in the postseason. If our core can stay healthy and our youth is for real, I think the Cup Finals are in reach, as crazy as that sounds.
  20. 1 point
    There's a lot of effort going into blight removal. Duggan has appointed "district managers" to oversee their neck of the woods in terms of cataloging, identifying the owners, tearing down/selling abandoned buildings, and while that's a huge undertaking, the city has already made great strides in achieving their goals. Dan Gilbert is also heavily involved with this project, and has agreed to buy up a lot of these abandoned buildings and tear them down/renovate them. Many others that are salvageable have been put up for auction online, and folks have been buying up these houses, fixing them up, and moving in. So yeah, Detroit has it's problems. Everyone in the world is hip to that, and it's unfortunately become our label. What everyone doesn't know is how much things are actually going right, and how much effort is going into building the city back up, and how much progress has already been made. The blight removal is one such example. The arena and entertainment district will be another, and will be a capstone on years of investment put into both downtown and midtown.
  21. 1 point
    I wonder what "not close" means here, because the article makes it seem like "not close" is more that they haven't really started working though this process of negotiating. Tatar is overseas, Dekeyser they haven't spoken with since the draft. Holland gave each of them offers and hasn't heard anything back. It sounds like these guys are just enjoying their summer and aren't even focusing on contract talks right now. But given that my perspective is one of very limited access, who knows what's actually going on.
  22. 1 point
    This project is getting criticism because like with almost everything else in the world, reactionary dips***s got all bent out of shape about this before they knew all the facts. People hear "tax dollars" and assume their personal income tax is going to go up, or some retiree's pension will get cut, to pay for this or something. Then, because they're already outraged, they can't just stop and admit they were wrong when they hear that the "tax dollars" used to pay for this project have already been collected, and were specifically designated for projects exactly like this one through the Downtown Development Authority. http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20130725/NEWS/130729909/detroit-taxpayers-to-fund-60-percent-of-red-wings-arena-plan-shows
  23. 1 point
    Barrie

    Alfie wants to play

    There isn't any room for Alfie. We have $8 Million Cap space left, but once Tatar and DeKeyser sign, we'll have 23 players on the team. Add to that next off season Smith, Nyquist, Jurco, and Andersson are RFA's, with only Cleary and Gus off the books after this year. We need Cap space and spots for our RFA's. When you look at the Wings cap situation and who's an RFA, there was no room for an over priced UFA. Makes the Quincey 2 year deal look that much better, instead of being on the hook for 7 years and almost $6 Million with someone else.
  24. 1 point
    Good call, along with the I don't know why people aren't coming here for $15 beers stand, and the we won't overpay for hotdogs kiosk, and the hot and ready will be our intermission acquisition stand
  25. 1 point
    Del Zotto is also 24! Most of our players have barely seen the NHL by that age and he's played 5 years. I think that things point to him turning things around and he could be a steal for someone. Just needs some good guidance. As a side note, I think he's a good example of what can happen to a player when they don't play at least their first year in the AHL.
  26. 1 point
    It's a moot point since we have Quincey signed, but I definitely would've taken a flyer on Del Zotto with Babs teaching him. Guy has undeniable offensive talents, just needs some work in the d-zone.
  27. 1 point
    MDZ=Q. The deference will be that Del Zotto will play for a lot less and has a potential to better than Q.
  28. 1 point
    Quincey's probably better than all three of those guys.
  29. 1 point
    Not going to happen.
  30. 1 point
    I'm not worried about either of them. Sure Holland's been munching on his own stones a bit with UFA dealings, but he's always been great when it comes to signing his own RFA deals.
  31. 1 point
    Guys and girls let's not overreact here. Don't get me wrong I would love such a beautiful arena with all the lighting and colloseeum like seating but so far these are only pictures of the project. When it comes down to actually building it nobody knows if they aren't going to chance some things here and there just to get it done in time etc. I honestly believe there should and can't be any discussion about the name, it has to be named after an ex player or even more deservingly about the guy who turned this franchise around from top to bottom, our very own Mr. Mike I. I love the term ICE (Ilitch Center of Entertainment) Arena :-)
  32. 1 point
    I think it will it should be called Howzermindseychukstrom Arena lol.
  33. 1 point
    Someone please resurrect the "player formerly known as Steve" post, I beg you. One of my all time faves.
  34. 1 point
    To me it's more a matter of Colorado mishandling the situation so badly that they were put in this position in the first place. This is exactly what happens if you try and lowball good young talent. As a 21 year old he was putting up 50+ pts. and was one of the better defensive forwards in the league and his team wanted to hold his feet over the fire. There had to be a better way to satisfy him AND retain his services without completely alienating the kid. Sadly, Colorado management didn't seem up to the task.
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  36. 1 point
    Looking at what Quincey got is really not a good comparison due to his UFA status. UFA eligibility is a seriously negotiated term of the CBA as compensation coming out of UFA is significantly different than a RFA. That's just the way it is. It is something you need to "earn" - goes beyond just your ability on the ice. Danny has played a total of 76 games in the NHL, I'd be pretty hesitant in handing out a fat contract.
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  38. 1 point
    I love the LED dome up top. That will look REALLY cool on game night.
  39. 1 point
    This is going to be great for the city of Detroit. I've been down there several times, and I personally love it there. Me and a few friends go down once or twice every year for the past 4 or 5 years to see games. I love the Joe and I'll be sure to visit it another half dozen times before the new arena is built but it surely will be missed. Not only is this going to be great for the city, it should also benefit the Red Wings in my opinion. Doesn't anyone believe that this new arena and entertainment district should be a huge attraction for future UFA's? I would have to believe it would. I'm sure most players would like to have a brand spankin new arena to play 41 plus games a year plus practice and train all season long. Add this to all the great prospects we have coming up over the next few years and the future is definitely bright in HockeyTown!
  40. 1 point
    You are aware he offered a ton of money for Niskanen and more than Boyle received from the Rangers? Just because Holland doesn't know why free agents aren't coming here doesn't mean he hasn't been trying. Besides, how do you not classify Quincey as an overpriced UFA?
  41. 1 point
    Quincey isn't a bad contract, it's only for 2 years. Niskanen and Orpik, are bad contracts.
  42. 1 point
    After being in the West all these years it's about time.
  43. 1 point
    All I know is let's get this season started...
  44. 1 point
    I think the helmet one is dumb. If you're in your own end on a pk defending and someone checks you, knocks the helmet off, somehow you deserve a penalty because you don't want to leave your team even more shorthanded to go put the helmet back on or go back to the bench?