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That's barely a fourth line right now, imo.

Oh man - Sharks are gonna regret this after the 3rd season.

Cuz AA is a better fit on the 3rd line. 6 is too much for a guy who will be available a year from now. I would include on of our 2nds in a deal for Trouba, but nothing higher. If I were Yzerman I would wait until after the draft to make a deal tho. 1. Can't trade away any 2019 draft picks at that point, and 2, if they luck out and Byram is still there at 6, then I would just wait until next summer and try to sign Trouba without giving up any assets.

I get the feeling podkolzin will turn out to be very good.

I actually don't agree with this. The knock on Helm and Abby and Neilsen is their price, not their ability. ALL of them have shown they're better players than De La Rose (for instance). And since we're in no cap trouble at all I don't see why you'd move on from guys who are obviously better than the younger guys. Again, maybe if you were up against the cap and need to re-sign someone, but we aren't. I'd much rather have Helm or Abby in the lineup than Ehn or De La Rose. I just don't want them playing anything more than fourth line minutes. Barring any trades for free agent signings my fourth line next year would be Helm-Glendening-Abby. Neilsen would center the third line (until injured or Veleno shows he's ready for a call up in GR) and one of Ehn or De La Rose would be in the press box.

I basically agree with this. We essentially had two fourth lines last year when you consider many nights we dressed Glendening, Helm, Abby, Ehn, and De La Rose. None of those guys are really good enough to play regularly above a fourth line (maybe Helm or Glendening in a pinch). We definitely don't want to repeat that lineup if we're looking to win here. IMO you pick the four best of those guys (or the four you can't trade maybe) and make three of the your 4th line, and one of them your extra forward. In no way should any more than three of those guys be in the lineup on a nightly basis.

In a vacuum, yes. He's a really solid player. But I think we're in really good shape on the wings between Bert, Mantha, Zadina, AA, Hirose, Svech, and Rasmussen.

Yes media, keep hyping up top five forwards this draft.. Make everyone forget about Byram until six.

My eyes!!!!!!!!

I genuinely don't understand why everybody is so quick to get rid of Abby. I get that his production has curtailed the last few seasons but his ice time has fallen by about 3 minutes per game since his career highs in 2015 and 2016. And that reduction is ice is EXACTLY what everybody wanted in the first place. Now the big complaint is that he doens't score. The reasoning is pretty circular. Then people freak out about his contract, which has not affected the team negatively in any conceivable way. So I can't understand that one either. Then they say he's eating up a roster spot, but when guys like Ehn, De La Rose, Witkowski, and Frk are on the team it's pretty hard to argue that roster spots are at a premium. I say let his contract run out. And in the mean time let him be a good locker room guy. Let him teach the kids how to work out like a pro, eat like a pro, practice like a pro, be responsible on roadtrips, hold them accountable on the ice, and all that. And all the while keep reducing his role as other guys peak until he's a regular scratch. That would cost the team nothing and might actually benefit the organization in the long term.

Bob McKenzie's final draft rankings for anybody who's interested: https://www.tsn.ca/americans-set-to-dominate-first-round-of-the-nhl-draft-1.1323878 Edit: Bob's got Brayden Tracey at 36, which is pretty interesting. Kid had a really solid year in the WHL and put up some nice numbers. Definitely a name I hadn't heard up to this point.

Ok, then from your point of view he'd be one of the four you keep in lineup. De La Rose goes, and one of Ehn, Helm, Abby, or Glendening sits. You just can't having five roster spots going to guys who can't score. And definitely not five roster spots across multiple lines. There's a reason our offense is trash. Aside from the powerplay a big part of it is that each line is basically saddled with one or two guys who have essentially zero offensive ability.

It was never a dream.

Great news!

All but done?

Agreed. Moose will probably end up a middle 6 forward who can play 2W or 3C and be a net front presence on the PP, but Ehn is a 4C at best and DLR is a spare F on just about any team. Abby, Helm, and Nielsen may be overpaid and/or on bad contracts, but they are all 3rd liners on most teams and 4th line regulars at worst.

What they fail to mention that Podkolzin wrestles with bears for his off season summer training.

Just saw it and I’m sure some of you already seen it but figured I’d post it up ... it’s probably wishful thinking on my part but I can totally see yzerman taking podkolzin just for the fact he’d probably look back at his career and those cup wins and see himself ,fedorov,zetterberg,datsyuk being elite 2 way forwards back in the day and that’s exactly what podkolzin is , man Friday can’t come soon enough one way or another all this wondering stuff will be over

Assuming Bert, Mantha, and Larkin stay together. I agree that Pods, Veleno, and Zadina would be a good line too. No definitive 1st or 2nd there. Neither would be elite top lines, but they would both be too good to be considered 2nd lines too. Reminds me of the late 90s early 00s Wings teams, where aside form the grind line, the other lines were interchangeable. My order would be at 6th: 1.Byram 2. Pods 3. Zegras 4. Cozens I would be pleased with any of those picks. The other names being mentioned at 6th are either redundant, or have lower ceilings IMO. Is Dach 6 foot 3 or a 6 foot tree?

Our Larkin line right now is solid , for me if we landed podkolzin and veleno turns out to be a 2c which I’m hoping for a zadina veleno podkolzin Might eventually turn into our 1st line , if not it’s gotta be zegras for me and veleno probably ends up on the 3c and we get zadina zegras Berggren Maybe down the road at 35 for me beecher/tracey But have a feeling both can move into the first round with puistola if not I’d say we target kolyachonok/misyul or some other dman unless we move up which I can see happening put lavoie,Seider, And hoglander in What discussion? Rangers will pick kakko

I don’t that’s fine you don’t like the kid I think everyone’s severely overreacting and gonna regret it when he becomes a star ... as long as we take a turcotte/zegras Instead I’ll be ok so long as it’s not dach/cozens

Pens fans hate Maata almost as much as Wings fans hate Ericsson. His cap hit is a little over $4M until 2022. Chicago has a fairly deep blue line, so Maata might end up thriving -- but I dunno that I'd bet money on it. Kahun's low-key good. Can play any forward position. Put up just shy of 40 points in 82 games last season. Turns 24 next month, so he could be heading into his prime years. Cap hit is $925,000, one year left. All in all, I think the Pens are probably the winners here. However, this is basically fallout from the dumb Jack Johnson signing, so I'm not giving Rutherford too much credit.

I think one of Cozens or Dach will go top 5. I want Cozens. Dach, not so much. I'd prefer Zegras. I want to add more right-handed forwards as much as anyone, but not at the expense of the better player. Always BPA, especially this high in the draft.

On the official Seattle website salmon/light teal appear to be the colors that they're likely to go with (I'm thinking 'Sockeye')...https://www.nhl.com/seattle Interesting concept jersey/logo designs out there...This one in particular is pretty good...

You have to spell it with a bunch of equal signs first. =====D ork! See?