rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 So, based on what Buffalo gave up, would the Wings equivalent have been Tatar + DeKeyser + Bertuzzi + Kindl (former first round semi-bust like Armia) + 1st? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 So, based on what Buffalo gave up, would the Wings equivalent have been Tatar + DeKeyser + Bertuzzi + Kindl (former first round semi-bust like Armia) + 1st? I'd say it's closer to Dekeyser, Helm, Bertuzzi, Pulkkinen, 1st rounder. There's nothing close to a Tatar coming back from the Sabres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 I cannot believe what Buffalo gave up for Kane! Sure he might become a great player someday but that remains to be seen. As far as Bogo is concerned he can be solid when hes healthy and that is starting to become an issue. The Jets were in a no win situation with Kane and to pull this off? well done Chevy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Buffalo are furious about the trade as they should be. As far as Myers being better than Bogosian my bad should have added potential wise. Myers has all the tools to become at least a Chara light. Wow I've read this is Cheveldayoff's first nhl fire nhl player move since becoming GM.. That can't be true Edited February 11, 2015 by frankgrimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 So, th' Peg rids themselves of two problem children: Kane and Bogo (who I believe has been a healthy scratch recently/in Maurice's doghouse) ...get Myers (who, I'm sorry, as far as consistency goes is no worse than Bogo and probably has a higher ceiling) plus Stafford plus a first round pick and a couple pieces. Seems like Winnipeg won this trade. 4 krsmith17, kipwinger, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PumpkinEscobar 136 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 I think it's an even trade..too bad Buffalo had to give up the 1st Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 I'd say it's closer to Dekeyser, Helm, Bertuzzi, Pulkkinen, 1st rounder. There's nothing close to a Tatar coming back from the Sabres. You're right. My bad. Too many players and I got confused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Can Kane be any happier about being in Buffalo than Winnipeg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladinator16 236 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Welcome to Buffalo Evander, here have a new tracksuit. Jets definitely won that trade, I didn't think they would get close to that for Kane with his attitude problems. 8 F.Michael, kipwinger, LasVegasRocks and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Stafford is a UFA though. If he leaves at the end of the season, do people still think Winnipeg wins this trade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Stafford is a UFA though. If he leaves at the end of the season, do people still think Winnipeg wins this trade? Yes because I think he helps them make the playoffs. At the very least he gives them another solid forward to fill the hole Kane would have left either way. Hopefully they can find a way to re-sign him. 2 kipwinger and e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Stafford is a UFA though. If he leaves at the end of the season, do people still think Winnipeg wins this trade? Good point. I guess that explains why Buffalo had to give the first rounder. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Good move for Winnipeg. Remains to be seen for Buffalo. IMO, this will make the Sabres a worse team this year than before the trade... ...which is exactly what they want. They want to win the race to the bottom to better their chances at McDavid. 1 e_prime reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 IMO, this will make the Sabres a worse team this year than before the trade... ...which is exactly what they want. They want to win the race to the bottom to better their chances at McDavid. They pretty much would have done that without the trade. It just doesn't really make sense from their perspective, especially giving up that late 1st rounder in what is supposed to be the deepest draft class in years. Without that pick the trade is only slightly lopsided in Winnipeg's favor, but man does it ever seem like overpayment on Buffalo's part... 1 frankgrimes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smite 399 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 The TV show "New Girl" did an episode where they invested the the swuit. Sweat pants suit. This should fit right in Buffalo. 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 IMO, this will make the Sabres a worse team this year than before the trade... ...which is exactly what they want. They want to win the race to the bottom to better their chances at McDavid. The problem is not them getting worse it's that they've got themselves a problem child and an injury prone player in return for their biggest asset - assuming their first is as safe as it gets - fans are absolutely roasting Murray right now. This has the potential to become a Seguin for Ericsson light trade... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Playmaker Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Don't get me wrong, I'm a Holland fan and I like our team. That said, why does it seem other teams can pull off these steals and the Wings can't? Maybe I'm just being a typical fan and overvaluing the Wings players and undervaluing other teams. I was thinking they'd have to basically give him away and they get some semi decent players and a first round pick? Not understanding the thought process of acquiring an often injured attitude problem guy with a big contract who is out for 6 months. Seems like he'd fit better with a veteran team who'd put him in his place as opposed to a dreadful team with hodge podge of younger players. But what do I know? 1 hockeybrianboy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaCkaveli20 275 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Kane / McDavid are going to give teams fits for the next few years that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeybrianboy 6 Report post Posted February 11, 2015 Won't pretend to have been paying attention to the details but anyone know why the Wings didn't make any attempt to get Boychuk or Leddy when the Islanders basically got them for free in the off season. Because both look like they'd be worth gold to bolster Detroit's blue line, which is the only thing still preventing them from being serious contenders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I wonder if it was more intriguing for Cheveldayoff to trade Kane to Buffalo. Not just for the return, but to send Kane to a perennial loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Buffalo overpaid. Wow. Great trade for the Jets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Won't pretend to have been paying attention to the details but anyone know why the Wings didn't make any attempt to get Boychuk or Leddy when the Islanders basically got them for free in the off season. Because both look like they'd be worth gold to bolster Detroit's blue line, which is the only thing still preventing them from being serious contenders. Given their success this year it's hard to argue they're not contenders. IDK about Leddy, but the Bruins wanted to send Boychuk to a team they thought was going to be not so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Greek 323 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Stafford is a UFA though. If he leaves at the end of the season, do people still think Winnipeg wins this trade? Exactly, he was going to leave buffalo anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,763 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Won't pretend to have been paying attention to the details but anyone know why the Wings didn't make any attempt to get Boychuk or Leddy when the Islanders basically got them for free in the off season. Because both look like they'd be worth gold to bolster Detroit's blue line, which is the only thing still preventing them from being serious contenders. Not sure about Leddy, but Boston wasn't trading Boychuk to a team within their division unless they got a much bigger return then they got from NYI. If Boston realized NYI would be a playoff team this year, I dont think they would have even traded with them. Should have traded him to the West. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Not sure about Leddy, but Boston wasn't trading Boychuk to a team within their division unless they got a much bigger return then they got from NYI. If Boston realized NYI would be a playoff team this year, I dont think they would have even traded with them. Should have traded him to the West. I still can't wrap my head on that trade I'm sure the isles weren't the only ones asking about Boychuck and it's hard to believe that nobody would have been able to beat that offer. Chiarelli made another bad move after trading Seguin, not replacing Iginla and letting an energy guy in Thornton walk. I mean at least trade Boychuck to the west instead of helping another eastern conference team out. Did he really believe his team would be the same quality product without their best scorer and a tank of a defenseman? Johnny B. should have at least returned a solid prospect or a late first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites