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Versus Penguins 5, Red Wings 1 Final Official Game Recap Tonight's Stream Forthcoming Game Preview: Salei, Modano to make Red Wings debuts Tonight's Officials Unknown Pre-season Detroit 0-0-0 Pittsburgh 0-0-0 Last DET-PIT Meeting: 3/22, PIT 1 at DET 3 Recap DET None PIT None Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi Hudler-Modano-Cleary Ritola-Helm-Eaves Miller-Abdelkader-Downey Stuart-Kindl Ericsson-Salei Meech-Lashoff Projected PIT Lines Sterling-Crosby-Dupuis Tangradi-Comrie-Malkin Wallace-Letestu-Kennedy Craig-Vitale-Boulerice Orpik-Michalek Letang-Strait Potter-Hutchinson DET Chris Osgood 0-0-0 PIT Marc-Andre Fleury 0-0-0 DET Kris Draper (groin) out PIT Jordan Staal out Next Game 9/24, Blackhawks at Red Wings; 7:00 PM I will be introducing (hopefully) a new GDT format by the start of the regular season. For now during the pre-season, I'm still going with last year's format.

Yeah not a bad pic. I kind of prefer this one.

Probably because there is more than one pre season game and Downy wont play in all of them. He's gotta get a feel for the team and a chance to maybe make the team as well.

Since when does one preseason game mean that no other young guys will play?

Yeah because we should dress all young skilled guys in the preseason when every team has AHL goons dressed and trying out for their team...

This is the problem with the new generation, no respect for adults. Yes Draper and Maltby are falling fast, but what you fail to realize is the thing that makes this team what it is, is loyalty to veteran players, you take care of them as long as you can and they take care of you, it's why we don't have contract hold outs, it's why our players defer salary. I have several jerseys with retired or aging players, I also have several with new players or prime players. The point is, to say Maltby is in the twilight of his career, and that he won't be around much longer if at all is one thing, to laugh at a person for suggesting they wear his jersey, and saying "he needs" to retire is something entirely different. Have some respect for the players that helped mold the Red Wings into what they are today, because Draper and Maltby were both a big part of that.

My God you're a machine...

Brind'Amour look a bit like sly on this one.... nooooooo of course he has only been eating his breakfast and trained hard

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! HOCKEY!!!!!!!!

i would say since 97 then, when i went to my first wings game as a kid. yes he used to be a great roll player, but i think spending the money to put his name on a jersey is kind of ridiculous when there are so many others you could do. if you like the way maltby plays, then why dont you put helm on your jersey. he is 1) young, 2) gonna be on this team for a long time (hopefully), 3) a very likable player with good work ethic. so yeah, i will speak my mind and say DRAPER AND MALTBY NEED to retire. its time, when you presence in the line-up hurts the teams talent quality, your time has come. and please DO NOT say "well they have a good locker room presence for the young kids"..... cause so does every other veteran on this team... i.e. lidstrom, zetterberg, cleary, osgood, rafalski, holmstrom, kronwall, stuart, datyuk...

Give me Pasha and Henrik seven days a week and three times on Sunday.

If this makes any sense, if it was just a 2v2 I'd pick the real twins, their chemistry is almost creepy. That said, if I was building a team I'd pick Datsyuk/Zetterburg as they are better overall players.

Why are they wasting a roster spot on Aaron Downy? Why not let one of the kids play so they get a feel for the NHL? What a waste!

it is even.

People can argue with me all the want, but when playing well they are by far the best line in the NHL baby! http://video.redwings.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=-6

lol, yeah, in first person, at events, wash day is a stroll through the nearest body of water. Washing clothes and a bath consists of whatever happens to get wet. My group does Some Federal events as the 22nd Michigan, but mostly as the Confederate 8th Arkansas. I am a big on the idea of States' rights.

One of my favorites:

"Awww crap, we forgot to throw the logo on, quick let's make a 6 inch patch and just stick it on there" "But where" "I don't care!!!"

You've been showing an unusual rash of humor and silly one-liners lately. It's rather strange. Anyhow, quick run down: AHL: NHL's primary development league. Though there are some veterans and full time AHLers that play here, it's largely filled with prospects NHL teams feels ready to adapt to the pro and/or North American style game. This is where most top prospects are going to play. SEL: Elitserien, or Swedish Elite League as we call it on this side of the pond. This is the top level Swedish league. It's probably close to equal with the AHL in terms of skill, though style of play is different due to differently sized european ice and contact rules. A large amount of players who were only good enough for 4th line/backup NHL duty, as well as more veteran good players that go back home, keep this a rather competitive league. It's often used as a Swedish version of the juniors, with NHL teams keeping Swedish players there to develop before adapting them to the NA game in the AHL. SM-Liiga: This is the top level Finnish league, and is generally used very similarly to the SEL. It also compares well to SEL in terms of skill, with some arguing that it's a more competitive league. Don't get that debate started between Swedes and Finns, though. ECHL: The minor pro league the step below the AHL. Often lower level talent is sent here, or sometimes young talent not suitable for juniors but not ready for AHL. Goalies in particularly sometimes get sent here, as they benefit more from a starting job here than a backup job to a more NHL-ready goalie in the AHL. A fair number of bottom line bangers, grinders, and gritty bottom pairing defensemen get their pro start here. UHL: A minor pro league a further step below the ECHL. On occasion, an NHL team will take a shot on a guy in this league, but if a guy gets sent here from an affiliate, it's usually not a good sign. Some AHL or ECHL teams use it as an affiliate for their lower end players. NCAA: Obviously, this is the all-encompassing American college hockey league (comprised of smaller subleagues based on school level). As a form of juniors, there's an age limit and other restrictions that apply here. Generally, guys in this league are 18-20 year olds that were just drafted a year or two prior, and not quite ready for the pro experience yet. CHL (QJMHL, OHL, and WHL): the CHL is the greater entity in which the three parenthetical leagues participate. These form the bulk of the high end Canadian juniors, and compares to NCAA hockey, but at a higher average playing level (due to a greater amount of trained Canadian hockey kids). KHL: This is the high end Russian league and the strongest hockey league in Europe. Not only are there a number of good Russian kids in there, but a fair number of middling or aged but still good pros. Additionally, some guys like Hudler wander over there despite not being Russian because of superior pay. However, because it's very competitive with the NHL, unless it's a young Russian kid who hasn't come to NA yet, going back to the KHL is looked upon a bit warily. There are many other junior and minor leagues as well as less powerful European leagues, but the above are probably the most notable ones at the moment. Someone else may do a more thorough rundown of the junior leagues, particularly the Russian & other European leagues.

Duh.. it's iFlip and the other guy is Pyett.

The only real advantage he has had on Salei is plus minus which is obviously going to be higher becaus of the difference in the teams, Salei was only -4 on a team whose top 6 defenseman were -10, -16,-12,-19, and -21. Other then that Salei has less give aways, higher take aways, hits are close, but Salei is known for being a more punishing hitter. A healthy Salei is better then Lilja even if Lilja is a good #5 defenseman. A healthy Salei is a number 4 guy

Calm down, it's not even pre-season yet. This is the time for players to shake the rust off, not compete for a spot on the Olympics. I saw a few bone head plays by several players... it's freakin TRAINING CAMP for crying out loud! Miller has the slight edge right now, but Ritola has a better future to becoming a solid and impact player. If Wings lose Ritola, I'll be pissed!

vFlip/iFlip LOL. iFlip. Thats funny. It was a real treat to see our talent vs our talent. This is the first red/white game that I've seen. It was awesome to see Lidstrom poke check the puck off of Franzens stick. The best part is our prospects look very solid! There are a ton of up and comming talent. I can't wait to see Tatar in the NHL.

I bet a bottom pair of Janik-Salei would be more solid than Ericsson-Salei

Get a Homer. Lifelong Wing and underrepresented guy who's been huge for us.