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We should do a list of the all-time best blueadams line threads.

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Agreed. I guess the hatred for the team that's knocked the Wings out twice is stronger for some people. Since they both can't lose, honestly I'd probably prefer the Sharks win for most of the reasons you mentioned, especially the sense of entitlement and incessant lecturing from Vancouver fans about how great their teams is and how unbiased their perspective is, but barring another meltdown by the Canucks, it ain't happening. Add to that a lot of canadians apparently root for whatever canadian team is left so Canada can win the Cup (???), so it becomes an inferiority complex on top of an inferiority complex, with all the annoying side effects that go with it.

But he was statistically going at a 105 point pace over the course of 11 games in the 2010-11 season. People forget he also did this while on lines with someone other than Datsyuk as well. Whoa! WTF... I forgot who I was for a second. Hudler is lazy and sucks, continue.

Yet he was still the LGWs official whipping boy... Ericsson has the 2nd best +/- stats among DRWs defencemen. 1st best was his defence partner, Rafalski. Ericsson scored more points in his first two season than Jiri Fischer. Ericsson also had better +/- stats than Jiri Fischer's 2nd year in the NHL. Both players are clumsy, both players got knocks for not being physical enough at the start of their respective NHL careers. Fischer was younger and had more upside. Ericsson wasn't a first round pick and isn't expected to be a top 2 defenceman on his team. Defencemen don't even start to peak until their early 30s. Lidstrom wasn't even known as a star until his early-to-mid 30s. What does this mean? That fans (LGWs posters) have unrealistic expectations of players, and don't understand the development process. Bottom line, whether anyone wants to admit it or not, Ericsson is a good young defenceman. He is still learning and finding his identity (the same identity that most defensemen don't find until they get into their 30s). The guy is a damn good bottom pairing d-man, and will develop into a rock solid #4. Holland, Babcock and crew haven't been this patient with him because he's a flop. He's a guy that will be pursued by other teams... but according to the latest report (previous page), he said he was never made an offer by Holland, never rejected an offer, and wants to play for the Red Wings because he knows they are a winning team. So the guy seems to have some loyalty and wants to stay here. And I hope he does re-sign. Because who replaces him may be a flop.

Unless your name is Malkin of course then it's not so mandatory.

I agree with earlier comments that the Phoenix situation mostly deals with the new hockey only arena in Glendale. The Thrashers share an arena with the Hawks, they won't be missed, the Coyotes will. What a horrible decision by the Coyotes to not continue to share an arena with the Suns.

huh. Gary actually bought the team with the NHL's money. That IMO is going waaaay to far to try and keep the team in Phoenix. This makes zero sense business wise. The whole thing is fishy. If it's not Bettman's ego, what is going on?

Let me say thank you to the Wings. They did a good job all season long and I'm proud to be a Wings fan! This offseason we need some changes. What do you think? - Lids has to stay for one more season - Mo, Drapes, Osgood, Salei have to go - Keep Joey Mac, he was fine for me - Try to sell Hudler or Filppula, 3 M can be better used (buyout?) - Re-sign Miller, Eaves, Ericcson - We have at least 6.5 M left (if the cap doesn't change)... who would you acquire?

If all else is equal, I'll root against the team that has Joe Thornton, Ryane Clowe and Dany Heatley on it.

contradicted? good one, professor. i said that i didn't want to put too many on, and i only put three. and why those three? ummm...let's see. bobby orr is almost universally agreed upon as the best defenseman to ever live. gordie howe is almost universally agreed upon as at least one of the best three forwards of all-time. doug harvey won seven norris trophies. and...drum roll...i couldn't think of anyone else i'd seen that i really really loved.

Finally we hear it, Holland is human and makes mistakes and isn't the Stonewall, Ironclad GM he is rumored to be. Malhotra 1,000,000 X better than Williams... Oh well, lets hope Robo-Holland shows up this off season and doesn't make any human mistakes...

Seriously, what is it with the lines threads?

Kesler is certainly a good player, and is improving each year, but his whining and his attitude seem to be getting worse and worse each season also. What an ass he is.

Just as long as it isn't my cloud I'll be fine.

Why would Kesler dive when the game's over and there's no potential gain? He lost a couple bottom teeth and had 13 stitches last series. Probably hurt like hell. edit: Oops. Didn't see RedLightGoesOn's comment above.

Subliminal messages? As if shoving him in our faces on nearly every commercial anyway wasn't enough.

My crusade? Excuse me? I'm just asking why in 4 pages no one answered the original question. I've seen the commercial. You do see Sidney highlighted. If the rest of the world would like to post for another 4 pages of Sidney-bashing with a sprinkling of Sidney-love and a few hissy fits thrown in, that's cool with me. I was just wondering why Crosby, which was the actual topic of this thread. I am not on a crusade. Stop putting words in my mouth and acting like this is all my doing. I am not the OP. Excuse me for actually discussing the question put forth.

This is just ridiculous. Is the Crosby disliking over the top in here sometimes? Without question. However, Carman you should be damned aware by now what you are getting yourself into stroking Crosby's ego often in over-the-top fashion on here in a Red Wings forum. If you want to like Crosby, cool, I have absolutely no problem with that and neither should anybody else in here. But you've been slammed for your over the top stances on him over and over again yet you still do the same thing. Either you don't get it, or you are just trolling or goading people for negative reactions to you on purpose. Either way, it's completely stupid. You should know damned well what you are getting yourself into here by now.

I have extreme, wait for it, LOYALTY toward Kenny. The guy is put on a pedestal, and rightfully so. I wouldn't want another guy in the spot and like Doc said, do not expect Stevie to just up and come back if the spot opens up. Also, I wouldn't worry that things will go to s*** if and when Kenny steps down. The Detroit Red Wings will not employ the next GM as someone who can't do the job the absolutely right way. I would love Stevie to be the guy but we need to keep perspective here.

Yeah just re-read some stuff. We are stuck agreed for next season. Umm so yeah Emmerton and Mursak will still be nice. This is maybe what we need: Helm, Fip and Abby to start scoring some points. They have huge potential to score more than what they show/done already. Also maybe a roster change isn't in order maybe since our defense was GODAWFUL all season get a new defensive coach. However, Stuart is getting older and I think you can start to see it a bit especially during the regular season where I think sometimes he takes a game or 2 off. I don't know. Get rid of Salei for sure, no Modano back, have Drapes and Ozzie retire and I'm happy. Looking forward more now than ever to the future of this team and some younger guys stepping in. New blood mixed with old blood has always been a postive thing with this organization imo....