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WHAT??? Cause he was in the crease???!!! So it's OK for other teams to bowl over our goalies and score and it stands???? jokessss

what the HELL??? Dallas "won" the Cup while standing in the damned blue paint. So suddenly now it's illegal again, when it wasn't then??? Edit: Someone tell Buffalo the 1999 Cup is actually theirs.... I give up

This is what happens when you lose a coach like Babcock. Slim chance the rookie NHL coach following him will be able to compare.

Help us Obi-Wan Green, you're our only hope.

Without Green and Vanek (and goalies), we don't have much tonight

So Kenny just said Larkin has been moved down to the 4th with Ott and miller...if you have any question what's wrong with this team, that should answer your question. Blashill has lost it.

It's like the NHL want less people to watch their own league.

Clearly the past proves that Lashoff is the better option since he was so elite for us before.

Better to be sleeping here than to not be here at all.

Just started watching the game (recorded it). Larkin on the 4th, Lashoff in for Sproul? I'm officially all out of faith in this organization, be it Holland or Blashill. How clueless can you be? Are we tanking? This is honestly the only believable scenario to me. I can't believe Holland/Blashill could display such ineptitude.

Combination of poor coaching and lack of talent. No top end talent means secondary players playing roles they can't handle, third liners playing second line roles that they can't handle, etc. Blashill isn't an NHL coach, either. The team had absolutely no chemistry or coherent system.

Ok...

Yep, but Babcock's time was done in DET. Team needed a change behind the bench, and TOR gave him a $50 million contract. No coach would pass that up. Then Holland chose Blash because he was GREAT AHL coach and knew some of the players. It's clearly not working out though.

Mraz, Green and Vanek were all we need to bring to NY. LOL

Oh yeah well I bet you think cucumbers taste better than pickles (they don't)

i didnt watch the last game but did larkin do something to be on blashill s*** list? wtf and really you call up lashoff to take over sproul spot? keep sproul in or bring up someone we dont know about he already blew coverage on the first goal.

I was really hoping to land Trouba in the offseason, or Hamilton by now, but like has been mentioned, these types of players are very difficult to acquire via trade. In order to pull off such a trade, we would have to give up Larkin / Mantha ++, and that would likely be a lateral move at best. I agree that the best option in today's NHL is through drafting / developing, and unfortunately I don't think we have anything close to a true number one in the system right now. In hindsight, I really wish we hadn't made that Datsyuk / Chychrun trade, but what's done is done. Hopefully Cholowski really takes a few huge steps over the next few years and becomes something special. From everything I hear about the kid, he thinks the game at an elite level, so if his skill set develops, he could become a top pair guy, just not sure about a legit number one... I think Holland should be looking to trade off some assets at the deadline, and do whatever he can to go into the '17 draft with a couple firsts and a couple seconds, take at least three defensemen, and hope to strike gold with one of them...

The only way the Wings are getting a true #1 dman is if they develop one from in the system. They dont hit the FA market anymore and if you do try and find one via trade you are going to end up overpaying. The Wings have nowhere near the top end assets to swing a trade for a #1 dman without crippling the team worse than they were before. Simply put this is a hole that we can look forward to them having for a few more years atleast.

I dont even think this is true, we are just missing a top pairing. Throw say Keith/Seabrook on this team, then our second pairing is DD/Green, third pairing Sproul/Smith and I think we have a damn good d. Everyone is playing a pairing higher then they should.

Our defense is AHL level, talent wise. Tape to tape passes and puck possession both start from the back end. If your defense sucks, you can't do either of those things. It's not a fundamental change in philosophy. We just don't have Lidstrom, Rafalski, Chelios, etc. anymore. Kronwall is too old.

Another thread about fantasy lines

Line combos are for video games. We have so many mediocre to below average players, that there's no way you can put together a line combination that will make this a good team.

If Holland is dumb enough to expose Mantha or AA to Vegas I will drive to Detroit and beat him to death with an octopus

Yo mama so fat.... She doesn't have friends, just women who got sucked into her gravitational field. Even Sir Mix a Lot thinks she has too much back