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Dominik could still play, I have no doubt at all. But he's really done this time, having too much fun doing other stuff in CZ. I don't see Jimmy as untouchable, he's smart and knows this is just business. Here's an issue I see with trading Jimmy this year, however. I can't see dumping Mrazek, but he strikes me as too inexperienced and emotionally "young." He can't handle the not-so-good team effort in front of him. That is expecting too much, I think. He might share a homeland, but Petr is no Dominik Hasek. He needs a solid number one in front of him to deflect the heat and pressure. Legace played very well, with Dom to hide behind -- often happens with backups, when there is an elite goaltender as the top dog. They don't always fare so well when they are in the hot seat. I am not dissing Mrazek, I love the kid. If you know me at all, the prospect of having another career, crazy CZ-goalie to love is almost more than I can stand. But he isn't there yet. That said, I love Coreau. He's a good, BIG, solid goalie -- and he's the victim of the team in front of him, just as the other 'tenders have been. Jimmy has an unfortunate tendency to get hurt seriously, when he's on a great run, statistically. That aspect of his career will be his legacy (no pun intended), I am sorry to say. Love me some Jimmeh, but it's probably not in the cards that he retires a Wing. Z must retire a Wing, however.

are you saying us Wings fans expect too much, too fast, and too soon? are we a spoiled bunch?

I know Puckloo and I are down for getting Hasek back for sure.

What's Hasek up to these days?

I dont't know, I don't see Howrd going out a Wing, as you put it, I mean look at what they did to Ozzie, letting him go just to bring him back later and helped us to that 08 cup. I mean, I love Howie, but the team hasn't been behind him and if we could trade him in a package for a top D would do it in a heartbeat. Keep Mrazek and get a solid backup, so far Coreau hasn't impressed me, yeah he's got size but seems slow. Although I agree with @F.Michael no one should be untouchable, well perhaps Z, I'd love for him to end his career as a Red Wing.

We're not trading Mrazek. He's our future. He's young and struggling at the moment that's all.

I say we bring in Jorge Alves. Serves as both tender and equipment manager....2 birds 1 stone.

These players are letting Blashill down. Poor guy spent his entire childhood dreaming of coaching his hometown team, only to inherit a roster full of jobbers and untalented AHL scrubs.

No power play goals on the road since a week and a half before Halloween. Yikes. Maybe thats why Steve Ott was on a PP unit today. Hahahahaha. Definitely interested to see how this trip goes. Obviously would've loved a win, but after seeing this team battle back from down 4-1 late in the 3rd on Sunday and give themselves a shot in OT was certainly a pleasant surprise as well as something we've seen very little of this year. Just nice to finally see some actual fight outta these rims. Also looking forward to watch Anthony Mantha play professional hockey for a long time. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk

for sure, blame it on me, no worries... hehe

well Jurco would be happy having his old coach behind the bench, he may get utilized correctly for once. its amazing really, Green is out and the only other decent shot from the point is watching from the press box so he can learn more!

So confused... Who else would you blame for that goal?...

Not saying Mrazek and Price are the same but I remember a lot of Canadiens fans wanting them to keep Halak over Price after the playoff performances he had against Washington and Pittsburgh. Look how that turned out, we need to be patient like you said.

I dont think Howard's contract this offseason is as bad as some people thing. At that point its essentially 2 years 10mil, not exactly crazy money. If there is a team out there that thinks all they need is a goalie, I believe trade could be made. Buying him out would just be stupid. If we do that we then face a cap-hit from him for 4 years rather then 2.

You must keep reading....

I remember this well, his whole attitude, how he stutters and his "cap is coming, cap is coming" phrase made me laughed so hard I had to make a pic back then. Ho-ho-ho-hold your horses Ken Stark. Less hasn't been more exciting thus far, just ask Howard

That was a wild time. Had too much fun to find anything to complain about. Things got a little chirpy between wings and leafs fans on the street car back to Union Station. Such fun shenanigans.

My exact thinking as well. Plus, I think the Wings can beat any team, I just don't expect it consistently or even regularly.

This entire statement means nothing. I would hope that your not trying to say Green is the problem with the offense.

It's about time Mantha was given a real shot to show what he can do. What sucks is that it took two injuries and seeing Bertuzzi go up ahead of him before he got called up. Just goes to show it's way past time to go with the youth. Holland needs to move any pending UFAs or anyone over 30 (besides Z, let him do what he wants to) to any teams that are interested at the deadline for picks, prospects, or young NHLers if the Wings aren't in the playoff picture.

Steve Ott is absolutely part of the problem. Maybe less so now than he was at the start of the season, as we're missing some key players. But the fact that Mantha didn't make the team out of camp and Ott and Miller did just speaks to a larger problem with the Wings. To which someone will say, "Yeah, but you don't want a player like Mantha playing on the fourth line." To which I say, "He never had to play on the fourth line. When healthy, this team could roll four scoring lines. (No Ott, no Miller.) But they insist on doubling down on outdated strategies. Because DEFENSE! And GRIT! And KILLING PENALTIES! And BLOCKING SHOTS! And WINNING FACEOFFS! And VETERAN LEADERSHIP! And COMPETE LEVEL! And BOY OH BOY DOES STEVE OTT GIVE IT HIS ALL. EVERY TIME HE FIGHTS YOU CAN SEE THE EFFECT IT HAS ON HIS TEAM. BOY OH BOY. GRIT. BOY OH BOY."

He better not EVER go back to GR.

kickazz, NerveDamage, MabusIncarnate and LeftWinger. Horrible bunch they are

So first Holland is gone, so half my problems are solved. #1 Try to snipe Anaheim or Nashville's defense scouting and development group. This team hasn't developed a real top pairing D-man in over a decade. #2 Trade the any of the following in such a way that prospects/picks come back: Abdelkader, Tatar, Nyquist, Smith, Nielsen, Helm, Howard, AA, and Jurco. These are all complementary pieces. None solve any problem Detroit has now or in the future. #3 Play the next two years as a total youth movement. The team won't make the playoffs, but high draft picks, chemistry and experience>>>>first round exits. #4 Move Blashill back to GR, he was great there. Find a coach that has already handled transitions before. #5 Continue to rebuild until the team is closer to the floor than the ceiling. Once cap flexibility has returned then start to move towards contention through FA/Trades.