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That was exactly one of those situations where no matter how it turned out, Holland was going to be flamed by irrational fan hatred. He doesn't sign them...he sucks as a GM. "Why couldn't you sign them Ken?..We only have so much time left before Datsyuk and Z retire...The door to win another cup is closing." If he does sign them...then towards the end of their contracts, Suter and Parise are well past their expiration date and taking up too much payroll. "Holland is an idiot for signing those contracts...He should've known it would hurt the team later on." Pretty much any team with $84,000,000 to spend.

The Leafs, always the Leafs.

Huh? I said it would likely take McDavid to get a team to trade the 1st overall pick (Dahlin), but make no mistake, every team would make that trade 10 out of 10 times. If we lucked out with the 1st overall pick and Edmonton offered us McDavid plus their 1st round pick, I'd make the trade, and Chiarelli would officially be named worst GM in the history of all professional sports. Dahlin is the best defense prospect possibly ever, but it's still just potential at this point. McDavid is a proven elite, number one center, the best since Crosby, and already viewed as being better by some.

Holland Interview on Red & White Authority Holland reiterates that the team is currently focused on building out with youth, but also emphasizes that veterans are still important, basically says: Can't just throw a buncha kids on the ice and expect them to have it all figured out on their own 4 years later. Young players need examples/mentors/leaders. They talk about the many puck-moving D-men in this draft. Holland states the Red Wings need this, but he also doesn't want a team of all 5'10" puck movers. He says we also need some, and this is the exact quote from Ken, "Trees" that can take on the bigger forwards in the league. Ken expects to take 2-3 D-men in the first 3 rounds (we have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds total) I thought this was kinda telling, because Holland kept mentioning it without really being asked. He says the Wings have an abundance of wingers they like in the system, but that if a good winger becomes available (someone who he thinks can net 30 goals and 60-70 pts a season) he's going to take him. Really gave me the impression that the Wings have their eye on a particular winger. Holland is expecting 1, maybe 2, young Dmen to make the team next year (Hicketts, Cholowski, Hronek, Sulak, or our 2018 1st rounder) They talk about Michael Rasmussen's personality and injury this season. They joke about how serious Rasmussen is about his profession, and about how he's so serious that he doesn't laugh. Holland says his personality and leadership was a real part of why the Wings liked him at the draft. Apparently Ras had the option to wait to do his surgery in the summer, but instead wanted to do it immediately this season so that he could rehab before the WHL playoff run and so he would be 100% ready for off-season training in which he intends to train to become a Red Wing. If Tri-City gets eliminated in the playoffs Ras will go immediately to GR to be the second line center according to Holland per Todd Nelson. Horcoff has been working closely with Cholowski to get him stonger. Dennis has added 20 lbs of muscle since we drafted him. Sounds like Holland really likes Ty Bertuzzi. Says 2uzzi has always gone deep in the playoffs wherever he's been and has never had a full summer to really put strength and weight on. That's what motivated the Red Wings to keep him off the Griffins playoff run this year. Blashill made the decision on Torchetti. Wings want to be better at special teams and Blashill wants to try something different on the PP. Holland is handing more responsibilities to Ryan Martin. Once the personnel market shakes out this summer, Holland would consider bringing on another assistant GM, specifically someone who has past experience as a head GM or assistant GM. Holland says Blashill is a young coach still learning everyday, but is a better coach today than when he took over the team. In regards to FA this season, Holland says some guys will be back, some guys won't (bye bye Green??) and will be replaced by younger players. He's hoping to have more cap flexibility next season.

I'm not one of those people, but I'm not so sure Nyquist wouldn't also just be benched.

For literally everyone on this board that claimed Tatar > Nyquist. Lol.

Yes he was scratched.

82 regular season games + 16 playoff games = 98 wins... Found this gif for LW. 2 birds, one stone kinda thing...

We were just sacrificing last year’s lotto to the hockey gods so we could win this one. No worries

Clearly the discussion about the Mrazek trade is done so i'm locking this. Keep off topic posts and discussion in PM. Please try to keep things on track here guys, We appreciate it.

Yes, sure, that's what I did. I said the reason he is bad is because he is homosexual...which I don't think he is, but either way he is just bad. Not only is Number9 getting so full of himself, he expects an apology for joking about his favorite player. I implore you to re-read the definition of Homophobe. I never said that is the reason I didn't like him. He is bad, and overpaid, never lived up to his contract, that is why. I don't care if he was transgender. Also show me my history of socially insensitive remarks, do you mean your made up anti-swedish ideal? Never was and never will be anti-Swedish. I am just anti-crappy player who is overpaid. He could be Yiddish for all I care. it's time to end this discussion. Do not attempt to keep it going... I will not partake.

Wow you really don't get it do you? You implied he was less of a person/player/whatever because he was homosexual. That's a problem, even as a "joke".

@krsmith17 was actually dead-on when he said McDavid. Many people believe Dahlin is the most promising young defenseman in decades. (I'm one of them.) You don't give up a player with that kind of potential unless you're getting a comparably singular young player in return. McDavid's the only one who fits the bill, IMO. And even then... Eichel + Ristolainen doesn't come close. Even if Buffalo throws multiple 1st-round picks at you, can you reasonably expect to get a Dahlin-caliber player with any of those picks?

I don't have that kind of hate-on for any team. And that makes me sad. I miss hating the Avs. I miss hating the Ducks. I miss hating the Pens. I miss hating. A renewed Wings-Leafs rivalry would be good for hockey.

lol

Hate. It's a great team that plays the right way. There is really nothing to hate about them except for how good they are, much like how the Wings have been for so long.

trick question, I enjoy not been beaten that often, but totally agree about beating the Horks, Tampa felt like a rivalry when we faced them in the playoffs, but it lacks something. My pick will be the Leafs, tis' gonna be sweet when we get our s**t together and start winning again.

Is this the year that Ovi finally beats Sid? ...lets hope so!

Bizzaro Ken Holland?

I agree with you. Islanders are a joke of a franchise. I would never wanna play there and TBL was in a much better situation