PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) Note: Schmeling was married to a czech actress, had a jewish manager and refused the Nazi order to split. They exploited him for their s*** like many other sports- and show stars, but he was never one of them. Just a good guy, he partially paid for Joe Louis funeral too, if I recall correctly. That is completely correct. That's why I tried to word it as a German fighter rather than a nazi fighter (although he was later drafted and faught with the Nazi Luftwaffe, but that wasn't his choice). He did refuse to give up his Jewish manager despite Nazi orders and even saved the lives of 2 jewish children under Nazi Germany. It is sad the way Schmeling was used by the Nazis and also how he was viewed as symbol by the U.S. press/government. I guess you could say both fighters were treated with prejudice by the other side, even if it wasn't racial with Schmeling. Edited May 4, 2016 by PavelValerievichDatsyuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plopster 136 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 (edited) The red roof might have been an artists rendering, but they had no trouble showing it off to everyone last year. It looked amazing.. now it's even worse than the name of the place. I sure pray that the ceaser's character is one of those things liberals wake up offended by one day and force Illitch to change it back to the winged wheel. I was just thinking that the other day. Where are the ****** saying the Caesar guy is offensive to Italians? Like the redskins and Indians? Edited May 5, 2016 by MabusIncarnate 1 Internet.Unknown reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 I just want to chime in and say this Joe Louis history is all genuinely interesting and I didn't know some of this stuff 2 Hockeymom1960 and kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FireCaptain 563 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 No, but that's a neat bit of history. Okay. But he was probably the biggest sports star and a national hero at the time and African-American. Oh and this was 10 years before Jackie Robinson played MLB. In one of the most famous sporting events of the century, he fought and beat, Max Schmeling, a German fighter, who's previous dominance the Nazi's claimed as proof of ayran superiority. Schmeling's publicist said a black man could never beat him and that Schmeling's winnings would be used to build Nazi tanks. The fight was hyped as Fascism vs. Democracy, Hitler raised the natonal curfew so all could listen to it and Roosevelt brought Louis to the White House before the fight to encourage him. This was about a year before war broke out in Europe. Did I win you over yet? 1 PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack & Whack Rule! 160 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 I was just thinking that the other day. Where are the retards saying the Caesar guy is offensive to Italians? Like the redskins and Indians? I think they're coming after you first for that comment...******? 2 krsmith17 and PavelValerievichDatsyuk reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,559 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Do we even have mods anymore or what? Frank makes homosexual slurs in another thread, with no discipline associated, and now this guy's comments? I thought the rules on offensive posts were pretty clear but apparently that doesn't matter if nobody does anything about it. 2 Echolalia and Hack & Whack Rule! reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,480 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 I was just thinking that the other day. Where are the retards saying the Caesar guy is offensive to Italians? Like the redskins and Indians? I'm Italian. I don't find him offensive. Your comment is offensive. But some poorly drawn character for bargain basement pizza does not offend me 2 kickazz and Hack & Whack Rule! reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingedWheel91 271 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Do we even have mods anymore or what? Frank makes homosexual slurs in another thread, with no discipline associated, and now this guy's comments? I thought the rules on offensive posts were pretty clear but apparently that doesn't matter if nobody does anything about it. Donald Trump is your republican candidate... The MOD's can't help you now. 2 PavelValerievichDatsyuk and kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Do we even have mods anymore or what? Frank makes homosexual slurs in another thread, with no discipline associated, and now this guy's comments? I thought the rules on offensive posts were pretty clear but apparently that doesn't matter if nobody does anything about it. One way to wake them up is to talk about firing Ken Holland. Me simply mentioning that might have already done it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Jesus Christ this site... 1 FireCaptain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mckinley25 678 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 One way to wake them up is to talk about firing Ken Holland. Me simply mentioning that might have already done it. Or talk about Cleary in a Franzen thread. 2 WingedWheel91 and evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Do we even have mods anymore or what? Frank makes homosexual slurs in another thread, with no discipline associated, and now this guy's comments? I thought the rules on offensive posts were pretty clear but apparently that doesn't matter if nobody does anything about it. They're pretty quick to lock a thread going off topic, however I do look forward to the time when people stop caring about the name. 1 FireCaptain reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plopster 136 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 I'm Italian. I don't find him offensive. Your comment is offensive. But some poorly drawn character for bargain basement pizza does not offend meIts called a joke. Maybe you people, and by people I mean anyone that's offended by anything should prolly not be on the Internet. 3 Hockeymom1960, frankgrimes and Izzy24 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,480 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Its called a joke. Maybe you people, and by people I mean anyone that's offended by anything should prolly not be on the Internet. I can take a joke. Pretty much everything I do and say is either sarcasm or a joke. But there's certain things that just go too far. I'm not even remotely close to being the PC police, but certain "jokes" shouldn't be made. Main list includes, but is not limited to; Rape, abuse, special needs people and mocking people's children. I don't even mind some light racism against my nationality. 3 kliq, PavelValerievichDatsyuk and BottleOfSmoke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Its called a joke. Maybe you people, and by people I mean anyone that's offended by anything should prolly not be on the Internet. Just put the flowerpower woodstock 4 ever .... on ignore it's not worth the time arguing or even acknowleding them :-) I thought the joke was hilarious and laughed out loud, so keep em coming. Anyhow not even a peition signed by 20 million people would change the name now, it's set in stone now it sucks and it doesn't honor the rich tradition of this franchise and it's players. The non lightning effect to me is even worse because this thing would have been the first arena worldwide which had something like that. An arena with no history but tons of bill-board ideas great times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 4, 2016 Its called a joke. Maybe you people, and by people I mean anyone that's offended by anything should prolly not be on the Internet. Perhaps you should read the forum rules before posting. I just want to chime in and say this Joe Louis history is all genuinely interesting and I didn't know some of this stuff It really is quite awesome. Sad that we'll never see greats like him honored in such a way ever again. 1 kickazz reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickieDunn 2,571 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 I'm offended be people being offended, words hurt you know. I'll be in my safe space if anyone needs me. 5 frankgrimes, F.Michael, NerveDamage and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 You know what? I'm tired of people using "the pc police" as an excuse to continue to say s***ty things. It's not cool to be a racist. It's not cool to be a homophobe. It's not cool to use derogatory terms for special needs people. It's not people being "sensitive," it's people calling you out on your bulls***. 5 Mckinley25, NerveDamage, marcaractac and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kliq 3,755 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 You know what? I'm tired of people using "the pc police" as an excuse to continue to say s***ty things. It's not cool to be a racist. It's not cool to be a homophobe. It's not cool to use derogatory terms for special needs people. It's not people being "sensitive," it's people calling you out on your bulls***. Agreed, people think they can say whatever they want, and get pissed off when they are called out. The sad thing is, they truthfully dont comprehend that what they are saying hurts others. Then when someone calls them out on their BS they fall back on the "PC Police" argument. I admit that sometimes people can be overly sensitive now a days, but there there are certain things that cross a line, and comments related to racism, homophobia, and putting down people with special needs falls into that category. 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plopster 136 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 Can I call you a jackass then? Is that cool? 1 frankgrimes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 Can I call you a jackass then? Is that cool? Are you 12? Can you not have a civilized discussion without it being reduced to a name calling contest? How about keeping the thread on topic rather than argue over what insults are okay or not? Newsflash: insulting other members is against forum rules. Like I said earlier, perhaps you should read them. 1 DatsyukianDekes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plopster 136 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 I was on topic until people got their panties in a bunch about something everyone says regularly. 1 frankgrimes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilmrt 636 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 Self-censorship is much preferred over the imposed kind. So about that stupid arena roof... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 See what kind l mass chaos putting a pizza dude on top the roof is causing 2 Hockeymom1960 and GMRwings1983 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted May 5, 2016 Jackass you say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites