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Aaaoooooooooooooo!! esteef

Bro... I feel for you. Nothing more frustrating than being stonewalled when your boys are pouring shots on net. Now you know how the Wings felt in the 1st round.

That was a panic move made in house to make sure Ericsson didn't make it to free agency and so he wouldn't lose a young defenseman for nothing. Besides, I don't think that he has been that overpaid based on how he played this season.

When I read posts like this, I am glad Ken Holland is in charge.

So sorry for the delay in getting these results up. Words cannot describe how busy things have been lately. I'll get the round two scores up right away upon the completion of the round. Rank Player Total Points 1 Dirty Dangle 35 1 Vladifan 35 1 Zohan Franzen 35 4 Dano33 33 4 zetterisbetter 33 6 Detroit # 1 Fan 32 7 BMONEY 30 7 SaCkaveli20 30 9 Cevari 29 9 CrimsonFlame 29 11 atodaso 28 12 IceSurfer 27 12 Zetterling 27 14 HockeyCrazy3033 26 15 Jeff6851 25 16 DatsyukDangles 24 16 syntax 24 16 The Edge 24 16 Tim.D 24 16 wingslogo19 24 21 dat's sick 23 21 Din758 23 21 germanwing 23 21 P. Marlowe 23 21 Ram 23 21 sibiriak 23 21 T-Ruff 23 28 55fan 22 28 bkeck 22 28 dirtydangles 22 28 Frozen-Man 22 28 Grim 22 28 Skiminok 22 28 Stick 22 28 vladdy16 22 36 BlazeYoungBlood 21 36 evilzyme 21 36 Motown4013 21 36 Namingway 21 40 Chris Avram 20 40 MulesWillFly93 20 40 russianswede919293 20 43 Greatness=PavelDatsyuk 19 43 NightFall 19 43 servo 19 46 edicius 18 46 marcaractac 18 46 Wurzel 18 49 GoWings1905 17 49 Z and D for the C 17 51 FinWing 16 51 HateTheDrake! 16 51 Hockey13Playa 16 51 Jersey Wing 16 51 Nevermind 16 51 shaeb30 16 51 UKWING 16 51 Wings_Dynasty 16 51 Wingsequallife13 16 51 WorkingOvertime 16 61 Echolalia 15 61 Gordie Howe hat trick 15 61 Ray1905 15 64 SpiritFan 14 65 8 Legged RedWing 13 66 Dabura 12 66 Donohue75 12 66 Norwegian Red Wing 12 69 NeverForgetMac25 11 69 bakerbert 11 69 hooon 11 72 Firehawk 10

here is a link to a helpfull cap site for the NHL. http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=15 Hope this doesn't violate any rules......

So close for Smith on the goal.. Congrats Coyotes!

nashville might as well forfit the third peroid,because they aren't going to the puck past smith,it sucks the preds are never gonna make it past round 2

This crowd can taste it. They might not know what they're tasting, but dammit they're tasting something!

coyotes fans won't do that because they have more class than the the preds fans do,i don't like the YOU SUCK chants and don't chant along with the preds fans,don't get why they keep chanting it instead of celebrating a preds victory

Good crowd so far. Lots of people offering Radulov their beers during warm ups lol.

From yesterday, at the annual Jazz Fest down here, enjoying the Foo Fighters gig a few stories above the crowd in a tent/shade.

I want a Doan face tonight! esteef

You make it sounds like AI in his prime wasn't an perennial MVP candidate. He may have been an ego and a half but he was a damn good ball player.

I disagree about trades being out of the question-- it all depends on how Holland does on July 1st. If he strikes out we're almost guaranteed he will look very hard for trade possibilities. I have zero interest in Penner unless he's cheap. He comes with huge questions about his commitment on and off the ice (especially in terms of whether he is NHL-fit). Both would be downgrades.

somebody just got kronwalled !

Of course, if the cap does rise to $70Mish, then we are talking a whole different monster. Holland could throw $15M ($7.5M each) at Parise and Suter, $1.25 at Vokoun, $1.25M at Helm, $1M at Abby, let Quincey go (collect draft picks) let Hudler walk and ALSO give Lidstrom his $6.2M and that would be a great team. I'd even let Franzen stick around... FORWARDS Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($1.250m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m) Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Ryan Suter ($7.500m) Ian White ($2.875m) / Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($0.875m) Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) Tomas Vokoun ($1.250m) ------ SALARY CAP: $70,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,142,045; BONUSES: $37,500 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,357,955 Leaving $2.35 available for injury call-ups and extra cash for depth at deadline...as much I as dislike Cleary and Franzen and believe they need to be traded. I can really get behind a roster like this...of course that is IF the Cap goes up to $70M.

I'm betting the Preds are going to lose, so I called in the donation to Ilitch Charities from the Paypal account; checks go in the mail tomorrow. Our grand total is $264.39. Way to go, LGW! Very nice amount, especially considering the limited opportunities to pad the bill. Again, thanks so very much to all who participated. Hopefully next year I'll take you all for a lot more money.

Wow, you make blanketed statement with the age and injury thing I understand we lost a lot of players due to injury but you cant just say that the team is old. How about Helm, Ericsson, Kindl, Mursak, Quincey and Eaves. ALL missed 10 games or more due to injury....average age...23.5 years. Kinda debunks your myth because from where I am sitting, young guys get hurt just like the old geezers...No question that it takes older guys longer to heal- It also takes experience on how to take a hit, when to press and when to sit, how to fall so you dont hurt yourself. No doubt this team is missing a few key parts...It became evident as year wore on BUT this is also the same team who won 23 games in a row at home, setting a new NHL record and did a lot of things right. If this team is capable of that, we dont need a major overhaul. We dont need to look at replacing 10 people on this team in the next 2 years.....thats NOT gonna happen and it shouldnt. Key components with our core group and the Wings will be where they want to be. PS Love David Jones? Bigger, Stronger, Faster, Healthier..No, missed 11 games due to injury. Just sayin'

Jarnkrok will be centering Swedens second line today against Denmark. If he's good enough to be Swedens second best center (save for playoff performers) he should be able to help the Wings next year. I know he won't be brought over, but a line of Nyquist, Jarnkrok, and Filppula would be one hellish fast and skilled line.

Yzerman was also damaged goods at that point, playing on one knee. He missed significant playing time each of those years with injury problems, and didn't pot more than 52 points since the 2000-2001 year. Yes he took a paycut, but its hardly equivalent to Lidstrom taking 3M/year to play, who is still quite healthy, quite effective, and even including the lost step he has endured with age, is still an elite defensman in the league. I also have to disagree with you assessment of Parise: You are correct in labeling him as a small forward, but he is effective and gritty in the corners, and plays harder and more tenacious on the puck/body than the majority of our current roster. He isn't going to steamroll Weber, but he will make his presence felt given the opportunity. Keep an eye on him in the playoffs if you get the chance. On our core: Datsyuk is currently 33, which isn't fresh but I wouldn't consider him "old" either. He's nearing the end of his prime, but he is certainly still there. I really don't get the desire to move perhaps the most effective two-way player in the game right now (and frankly the most effective two-way player I have ever seen, in any hockey era). Zetterberg isn't far behind him, and while he had terrible first-half numbers, it was revealed he was injured and really stepped it up in the second half. Z is younger, also in his prime, and still quite effective. Lidstrom is old, but still effective. Homer is also old, so is Bert, and none of them will be around much longer. Darren Helm is young and energetic, Abdelkader is a solid shut-down centerman who's backcheck and defensive game are quite underrated. Also young. Filppula is south of 30. Hudler is south of 30. Jimmy Howard is south of 30. Emmerton, Ericsson, Miller, Eaves, Quincey, White and many others are younger than 30. I don't know that its fair to say that we're an old team anymore. We're the youngest we've been in over a decade.

Steve Yzerman was the exception not the rule and he only took a discount for 1 year. He made 5.8 million in his 2nd last year and for his final year he took a salary of 1.25 million. Neither Datsyuk or Zetterberg will ever be traded, regardless of trade value. They'll both retire as Red Wings. Its that dedication to our veterans that created the Wings reputation as a prime FA destination.

Yea good thing you are not the gm. We'd break our 22 straight of making the playoffs with a massive overhaul. Adding a couple free agents would Put us in contention again. I laugh at some of the people on here posting all year how we needed a fourth line grinder befOre the deadline. It's been obvious for what the wings lacked. They have so many playmakers and yet no true snipers. They lack speed and size. There older players are the guys who have been injured thru the yr and the playoffs yet they compete. They need to realistcly let guys like bertuzzi,holmstrom,hudler walk. Yes bring in guys like d jones,Sheehan, jurco. All have size and skill. Then you add in a parise and you have a dangerous scoring team. I like yur thoughts on the d. Just not sure they would play kindl over b smith. Wings outta offer parise,suter deals and retool on the fly.

THE MAYANS KNEW!!!