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Nobody here has watched Holland as a seller before. This is literally the first time he has ever been in this position since he took over as GM in 1998.

Ah that's right. I forgot about that stint.. I don't really see Tavares leaving the isles. I'd like him to because I think he's wasted enough of his career, but I don't see it happening.

Yeah I don't know why people are getting worked up about this guy

Right, I was implying that we shouldn't make that trade if they're asking for anything like Larkin, etc. If Kenny really wants him then I think that a trade might be the only way because I doubt he would come to Detroit as a free agent. Trading for him and trying to reach a deal before July would be a safer bet. But yeah, not a trade we would really need to make right now.

If we're tanking lets tank hard and go for broke next year too. Keep Blash on for one more year. Put Sheahan on the first line. Touch the corn-baller.

Khan seems to think that won't happen. Basically said flat out in one of his latest pieces that Vanek enjoyed his time here,but he's not coming back. Will sign a longer deal at much bigger price with a contender.

So trading AA for Trouba, Subban, Weber, OEL is off the table for you. But trading a 1st, 3rd, and Nyquist for a UFA is a good idea? You have lost your right to rip on Ken Holland lol.

Yeah it would definitely take a little more cap management. I am a pretty big fan of more offensive defensemen though, so maybe i over value him a little bit.. but I think he'd be worth it. He's a very good player. Yes. I think he'll be gone then re-signed in free agency; hopefully to not too long of a contract.. 2, maybe 3 years at a decent cap hit.

I personally wouldn't offer him anything more than what Green is currently making, maybe tack on a couple extra years... $30M over 5 years...

Yeah shattenkirk seems very much in it for the free agency big money (can't blame him). I think he's going to test free agency no matter what and St. Louis is going to be stuck losing him for nothing if they don't lower their asking price. If he were open to signing here, what's the most you'd offer him? Edit for clarification: if he were open to signing here this off season, not after a trade.

Trade Vanek for a 1st, Smith for a 3rd and turn those two picks plus a player (Nyquist) to St. Louis for Shattenkirk. Keep our 1st, draft future star... How is it not done yet?

Anybody here drunk right now?

Hard to believe that was 10 years ago. Right before I joined this forum.

Btw...usually, you can disable status messages like that Tapatalk nonsense...

Didn't he only lose 5 games that entire run? Beat Detroit 4-0 (6 ga, 0so) Beat Dallas 4-2 (14ga, 1so) Beat Minnesota 4-0 in Conference Finals (1ga, 3so) Lost Stanley Cup Finals 4-3 to New Jersey (19ga, 1so) Won Conn Smythe Trophy Crazy Michelin Man.

Yep. Holland will keep putting other GMs off, they will get another Dman, Smith's value will drop. Then Holland will resign him and say it's because trade offers were simply too low. What he won't say is that he turned down a 2nd or 3rd rounder a few times while talking to Smith's agent and then when he finally decided to ship him out, he was only getting 5th rounders as offers because he took too long because he's Ken Holland and thinks the NHL waits around for him to stop picking his ass. Just get a trade done ffs!

I assume based on your tone that you think Holland should except the first offer he receives? I can't say I agree with that. If he is getting bad offers, its in our best interest to wait.

Trading for a #1 D isn't dumping him. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Waiting is the same as no most likely. While he talks to Smith's agent those teams are calling someone else. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

I posted both these things this morning in this same thread when I was supposed to be working. ACKNOWLEDGE ME.

I've been all over McKenzie twitter, haven't seen anything about Holland turning down offers on Smith...but, we know teams try to rape Holland all the time so I wouldn't be surprised if they are offering 5th or 6th rounders. Which should be turned down. Anything less than a 3rd is a low ball offer...

Dreger reporting that the Blues have committed to moving Shattenkirk at the deadline. Things are getting spicy! Kasan reporting that Rutherford is trying to add another D-man on top of Hainsey (Pens have injuries). So perhaps they're still in on Smith. I'm sure if we retain salary like Carolina did we can move him there.

Commodore got treated like Diamond Dallas Page when he went to the WWF.

why does everyone want to dump AA? He's the best prospect forward we've had since...well, more prospects than you can imagine! He stays...

Honestly, I'd take him here too. I don't think he's a top guy but he's better than probably anyone we have. Wouldn't trade the first for him obviously but I've been a fan of Myers since buffalo was rumored to be shopping him.